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Old March 27th, 2023, 11:03 PM
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Fallout Re: MBT's

About the Ukraine's tank factory, as I already reported that got blown up around the 2nd of March.
https://morozov.com.ua/en/bronetanko...i-vooruzhenie/
(I used this extensively when I stated on the OPLOT-M and other tank related purposes. So, if anyone gets through, please let me know been trying since 2 weeks into the war to connect.)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidax...h=1072a3a65d31
https://www.fpri.org/article/2022/09...of-a-long-war/
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/a-steel...nomy-1.6330432
(Sounds like the Germans in WWII.)


This again is why those Russian captured tanks have been so important as it pertains to the above.

I saw that about that concerning the T-34/85 might as well bring back their SU-100 tanks they apparently have a large supply of also.

Russia has about a 4:1 manpower advantage over the Ukraine. In ignoring the above but allowing for the T-54/T-55 and T-62 it won't be an advantage that'll be long lived.

I have other news:

Czech Republic- Are wrapping up accelerated Operational testing of the about 4 LEOPARD 2A4 tanks they have to date. Based on delivery dates currently and with Operational Unit training yet to come they should reach FOC by late this year or I would think no later than JAN 2024.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe..._adoption.html

Turkey
-How long have I been tracking this next tank, I'm thinking almost as long as the ARJUN with one big difference the ARJUN got fielded. In the submission just posted yesterday I talked about the delays with the South Korean K2 and K2 PIP (Which doesn't look good either.) in this case it's what accelerated the production of the K1A2 by 3 years (Completed Production by DEC 2023) .

The first 2 above as per the write up, occurred twice in 2014 and 2018 with engine and transmission failures.

They shared the same fate that has plagued the ALTAY first with the loss of the German/Austrian Powerpack (Engine and Transmission etc.) with a period of stagnation as they had to design from scratch their own Powerpack and I'm on record as saying they wouldn't succeed in getting there with a 1500hp System and they didn't.

South Korea having fixed their issues and with an ever more hostile Russia, Turkey turned to the South Korea to supply the Powerpack, I know I posted this, and I believe the contracts got signed this past DEC. That's the Basic Background story.

So, here's the current situation...

For the second or third time Turkey has just received the first 2 tanks to start Operational Tests.

"the first Turkish-made New Altay Main Battle Tanks (MBTs) will be delivered to the Turkish Armed Forces on April 23, 2023. "

"Between April and December 2022, tests were carried out with the power group supplied from Korea and found to be successful."

"The Turkish army aims to complete the tests by 2024."

"Following the completion of the tests in 2025, mass-produced tanks with the Korean power group are expected to enter the Turkish armed force's military inventory."
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...eld_tests.html
(Will have to make some changes to it in at least FCS and maybe minor Armor adjustments as well.)


And I got my answer from this article, I've been tracking this tank for 15 years and it looks like I have a few more years to go.

Oh, lucky me!!!!

UK/Ukraine - MOD reporting the Ukrainian CHALLENGER 2 crews have completed training on the tanks, further those crews just very recently got back home.

Our tank is ready to go (CHALLENGER 2 EXPORT) but the UK is still prepping them and we all know why now-hopefully.

If they conduct combined operations like they did with the T-55S it might be mid-Summer before their assigned unit becomes operational based on what we know of the T-55S unit training cycle of LATE NOV 2022 - MAR 2023.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...ing_in_uk.html


Our "NOW" is unfortunately is not the Ukraine's "NOW".

Regards,
Pat
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