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Old February 24th, 2021, 07:59 PM

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Default Re: Germany OOB 16: miscellaneous comments

Few remaining notes:

9 PzKw III G 5cm - version with applique armour should have also 30+30 armour at the hull rear (the same as later H) [Jentz].

BTW: according to Jentz, "starting late in 1940, some PzKpfw III G" had applique armour - maybe 11/40 would be safer combat entry date [now 10/40]

10,11 PzKw III H, J - I'm not sure if they shouldn't have SD, like other Pz IIIs of that period

584 PzKw IIIG 3.7cm - first were completed in March 1941 [now 7/41] - presumably they were available in May or June (not much improvement over III F anyway, apart from 30mm rear armour).


489 7.5cm Geb IG 18 - picture is ordinary leIG, and mountain variant should have twin tail icon. Photos of mountain variant are rare, possibly only here https://www.quartermastersection.com...mle.Geb.IG%208 However, it's better to replace it with with classic Czech 7.5cm GebK 15 (Skoda M.15), which was basic German mountain gun (eg. from Romanian #132 75mm Mtn Gun).

According to Polish article on German mountain artillery, Geb IG 18 was designed only in 1937 and produced from 1937/1938 (now 1/32). But only 95 were made, and it was rather lousy weapon. On the other hand, a few Skodas were a leftover from WW1, used for training of mountain artillery (from 1/30), and several hundreds were acquired later, starting from Anschluss in 1938 and occupation of Czechia and Yugoslavia. Its range 7 km (or even 8200 m according to other sources) was twice as big, as Geb IG 18 (3300 m). They were also used by paratroops until Crete landing. From 1941 they started to be replaced with 7.5cm GebG 36 (range 9.2 km), but they never were completely replaced.

BTW: I see now, that this gun in Czechoslovak OOB (weapon #33) has much too low range 60, while in Romanian OOB it has 165.
In Slovak oob there is howitzer with weapon #33 with 165 range and #32 75mm vz.15-IG with 60 (is a smaller range of IG justified?).

BTW2: Yugoslavian OOB obviously should not use #322 75mm Geb IG 18 after the war, but popular Skoda instead, either from pre-war stock or Italian variant booties. Yugoslavia also used these guns before the war (captured in 1941 by the Germans as GebK 259 (j)) - maybe it should be added as pre-war pack howitzer as well? (currently there is only #320 65mm pre-war pack howitzer, I don't know if it was used).
Also #321 75mm Mtn Gun would be the captured Italian variant and therefore its weapon should be named 75L13 instead of 75L17 (Italian designation was 75/13).

I think that's all this time.
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