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Old July 31st, 2002, 04:28 AM
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Here go the replies to those who posted a week ago--sorry for the lengthy post...

"Can this be used with v1.49, or only with SE4Gold ... ?"
AFAIK, only with Gold. There are some changes in the quadrant and system files (percentage increments, IIRC) from Classic to Gold.

"Wow, out of 50 "standard" systems, only 3 were single-star system. What's with that? Do you not like systems with only one star? Including the Atmosphere systems, there are only 12 of them."
Actually (letting a secret out of the bag)--most of these systems are randomly generated. I don't mind the lack of the R-word, and it definitely makes crystalline races more effective. Nonetheless, I'm going to hand-sort through all the systems and tweak them some more.

"I also noticed that your Shield Disruption effects range into higher numbers, like 9000, 10000, 15000, etc. You do realize that to get 10000 shields, you would need 27 Phased Shield Generator Vs, which take up 1080 kilotons? It woule be much more effective to just use all that space on a Starbase for armor. And since these are in systems like Spacial Ruptures, building Starbases in them isn't really practical anyways."
Well, you never know. Maybe someone will want to combine my mod with Andrés Ultimate Vehicle Size mod. I didn't want to exclude anyone.

"What is the point of having 15 Organic Infestation systems if they all have either 2 random movement or 3? Isn't that a bit redundant? You could get both of the pictures to be either type with only 4 entries."
See above re: tweaking. That one must have slipped by me around 1 a.m.

"One more thing: The different 'sized' Versions of each planet size create huge discrepencies with starting planets. I for one don't like having a medium homeworld with 8 facilities in one game and 19 in the next. The different sized planets are cool, but not for homeworld balance."
With the exception of Proportions-style economics, any discrepancy can be quickly made up with aggressive colonization. Hitting a couple roomier planets while your opponent hits more restrictive ones evens out the difference. I won't even drag in the hated R-word to defend myself.

I will definitely be posting an update to the mod soon, in light of the new information I discovered.

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Actually (letting a secret out of the bag)--most of these systems are randomly generated. I don't mind the lack of the R-word, and it definitely makes crystalline races more effective. Nonetheless, I'm going to hand-sort through all the systems and tweak them some more.

What did you use to randomly generate them?

With the exception of Proportions-style economics, any discrepancy can be quickly made up with aggressive colonization. Hitting a couple roomier planets while your opponent hits more restrictive ones evens out the difference. I won't even drag in the hated R-word to defend myself.

I like realism. But sometimes, realism must be sacrificed for game playability. In some situations, aggressive colonization can help, but not all. What about times when 1 player gets large homeworld(s) and has large planets around them, and the other player gets small homeworld(s) and has small planets around them?
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Old August 1st, 2002, 04:58 AM
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What did you use to randomly generate them?
I created a VB program which spit out its results in a text box. Nothing fancy.

I like realism. But sometimes, realism must be sacrificed for game playability. In some situations, aggressive colonization can help, but not all. What about times when 1 player gets large homeworld(s) and has large planets around them, and the other player gets small homeworld(s) and has small planets around them?
I see no workaround for this right now. If you could specify non-standard planet sizes in SystemTypes.txt, then you could ensure a nearly even mix of each type. As it stands now, you can only call the standard Tiny, Small, Medium, Large, and Huge types. Thus, all the moons in this mod are the same size.

I do understand the possible game balance problems. In my experience, this hasn't been a problem--the various sizes have been reasonably distributed. Against the AI, any extra challenge is welcome. In a humans only game, it would be more of a problem.
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If you could specify non-standard planet sizes in SystemTypes.txt, then you could ensure a nearly even mix of each type. As it stands now, you can only call the standard Tiny, Small, Medium, Large, and Huge types. Thus, all the moons in this mod are the same size.

Well that sucks. I just tested it, and it makes null planets.
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Version 1.1 is now released. Changes includes:
-Tweaks to frequency of multiple-star systems
-Updated planet abilities
-AI friendly quadrant types which exclude black hole and random-movement systems

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