Bug Bug Thread: Discussion - Page 289

Loren · #**2881** March 20th, 2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cthulhu

Personally I think that queens of elemental air ought to be able to at least go over water even if they aren't allowed to go under water. Something similar to the sailing special ability, but effecting only the commander? Or heck, maybe just sailing.

But I agree that it's not really a bug. Unit attributes that do not show up in the icons or the text descriptions are not automatically bugs, though they are undesirable.

Yeah, everything that couldn't cross the water was stuff that by appearance should be able to go over the water.

Wrana · #**2882** March 20th, 2010, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Loren

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Originally Posted by cthulhu

Personally I think that queens of elemental air ought to be able to at least go over water even if they aren't allowed to go under water. Something similar to the sailing special ability, but effecting only the commander? Or heck, maybe just sailing.

But I agree that it's not really a bug. Unit attributes that do not show up in the icons or the text descriptions are not automatically bugs, though they are undesirable.

Yeah, everything that couldn't cross the water was stuff that by appearance should be able to go over the water.

I think the (in)ability was developed with vampires in mind...

Burnsaber · #**2883** March 20th, 2010, 06:54 PM

I think the best option would just not to think about UW access things too hard. Bane Lords, for example are unable to go into water without water breathing items althought they clearly don't breathe in the first place. Just go with it.

Baneslave · #**2884** March 21st, 2010, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Burnsaber

I think the best option would just not to think about UW access things too hard. Bane Lords, for example are unable to go into water without water breathing items althought they clearly don't breathe in the first place. Just go with it.

Same is true with many LA Ermor's (cold aura) commanders. Maybe they cannot go underwater because it freezes around them?

Burnsaber · #**2885** March 21st, 2010, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Baneslave

Same is true with many LA Ermor's (cold aura) commanders. Maybe they cannot go underwater because it freezes around them?

Nice try, but Spectres have poor amphibian although they have chill aura, so that logic does not apply :P.

rdonj · #**2886** March 21st, 2010, 11:25 AM

But they're ethereal, so they can pass through the ice!

Burnsaber · #**2887** March 21st, 2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rdonj

But they're ethereal, so they can pass through the ice!

Okay, so ethreal undead should be able to go underwater? See Jomons/Shinyamas ghost generals for an example where that logic fails.

Squirrelloid · #**2888** March 21st, 2010, 01:12 PM

heck, all ethereal creatures should be amphibious. Like they care if they're moving through water or air (or solid rock...)? Its all the same to them, right? Undead is irrelevant in that context.

Loren · #**2889** March 21st, 2010, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Burnsaber

I think the best option would just not to think about UW access things too hard. Bane Lords, for example are unable to go into water without water breathing items althought they clearly don't breathe in the first place. Just go with it.

The thing is I had Thestis' Blessing up. Anything not specifically prohibited from the water should have been able to cross.

Vampires have a specific thematic reason they can't enter water but I don't see that that applies to the elemental royalty.

Baneslave · #**2890** March 22nd, 2010, 09:46 AM

Well, ethereality without flight doesn't make any sense, as wouldn't those units just fall through the earth?