STM "Final v1.7.5" Discussion

[PsychoTechFreak]

The Last post from Ragnarok brings up some questions for me:

What is the recommendation regarding AI bonus, I assume LOW BONUS at least?

And I prefer to play large maps (255 based) with a lot of asteroid belts, which one?

[Aiken]

I'd recommend to play with MEDIUM bonus at least, especialy if it's 1 starting planet game. Of course this statement is based entirely on my experience.
Also I have a request for Atrocities: please, increase Maximum Research Point Generation for Dominion, Klingons and UCP to at least 300000. They are at 100000 now, except for Klingons, who have 200000. These values are really low, compared to other races.

[Fyron]

Originally posted by R.Daneel:
Now a question….
There is a mode or a custom program to import a single system in a new map?
I have found original Star Trek Map and I wont convert to the game…. system to system.

Of course is possible to create a new one with the game system and then move
and rename each one correctly… but is not a very elegant solution… maybe just a little bit practical

Nope. You have to add them manually...

I would recommend high bonus in any mod, except possibly AIC, as the AI is just as clunky in any mod as it is in stock. AIC just cheats and adds lots of special AI-only comps to make up for some of the clunkiness, but the AI is still poor at its core (which is hard-coded).

[ March 28, 2004, 17:48: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[Intimidator]

I just downloaded the 1.6.6 patch.

But want to know right now , what are the diferences between the maps included.

I understand that 2 of the are the same except the starting planet size.

But the diferences between the 2. and which is more acurate according to Trek universe.

[BlackRose]

Originally posted by Intimidator:
I just downloaded the 1.6.6 patch.

But want to know right now , what are the diferences between the maps included.

I understand that 2 of the are the same except the starting planet size.

But the diferences between the 2. and which is more acurate according to Trek universe.

Different size homeworlds will produce a more accurate Trek Universe. However talking with Tnarg he agrees that the Breen are significantly underpowered, dont attempt playing as them I'm playing on a different size HW map right now and the Borg are by far the most powerful (I modified the Breen start conditions and just gave them 4 Ice/Oxy planets in the Home system and 2 Ice / Non Oxy planets as well. I didnt take into account the neutral opponent that starts right next to them, however and i'm really being pressed. Mines are the only thing keeping me alive and the tholians are fielding Dreadnoughts that can sweep 80 mines at a shot My only other complaint is that the Dominion is underpowered and the Cardassians Over powered, but other than that I'd say its a pretty authentic map

The other suggestion I'd make is less access to the rest of the map by the dominion, just the wormhole would be fine IMO, it just adds to the woes of the Breen poor, poor, Breen

[ March 28, 2004, 22:12: Message edited by: BlackRose ]

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by aiken:
I'd recommend to play with MEDIUM bonus at least, especialy if it's 1 starting planet game. Of course this statement is based entirely on my experience.
Also I have a request for Atrocities: please, increase Maximum Research Point Generation for Dominion, Klingons and UCP to at least 300000. They are at 100000 now, except for Klingons, who have 200000. These values are really low, compared to other races.

Thank you, that is a great suggestions. DONE.

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by Imperial:
how many planets did the dominion have before they surrendered? what level of diplomacy did you use--pleading, neutral, or threatening?-- i have trouble getting the AI to surrender and was just wondering?

They had over 400 planets. They had been at war with the Federation for over 75 turns and were being beaten back. I used Demanding in tone and they surrendered. Better to join a strong race than be beaten by a weak one.

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by Ragnarok-X:
Atrocities,

i played your mod today.
I set up a nice large galaxie, with max AIs and neutral empires, tech cost medium, racial points 3000, difficulty hard, NO AI boni.

I do all my play testing with Medium settings, NO neutral Empires, 5k racial points, high neutral races, and at least 5 exsisting races.

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by PsychoTechFreak:
The Last post from Ragnarok brings up some questions for me:

What is the recommendation regarding AI bonus, I assume LOW BONUS at least?

And I prefer to play large maps (255 based) with a lot of asteroid belts, which one?

I always play on large maps, WPL, WPL located any where, Standard FQM (Lots of planets and asteroid belets)

If you set to low AI bonus your basically cheating in my opinion. The AI is not as adaptive as we are so it needs the extra points to make the game more challenging.

[Tnarg]

Originally posted by Intimidator:
I just downloaded the 1.6.6 patch.

But want to know right now , what are the diferences between the maps included.

I understand that 2 of the are the same except the starting planet size.

But the diferences between the 2. and which is more acurate according to Trek universe.

In the Mod Info folder there is a Map Info folder that explains most of what makes the STM Trek Major Systems map.