.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Raging Tiger- Save $9.00
winSPMBT: Main Battle Tank- Save $6.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > The Camo Workshop > WinSPWW2 > Campaigns, Scenarios & Maps
Notices


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #81  
Old January 28th, 2020, 08:19 AM

Ts4EVER Ts4EVER is offline
First Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 681
Thanks: 91
Thanked 250 Times in 132 Posts
Ts4EVER is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Ts4EVER scenarios

Quite a bit like that. The Soviet ToE in my scenario is based on the recent Osprey Book about the battle and that one claims that while ISU 152s were roughly in that area, none were used by the units engaged. Because of that I went with the SU 76.
Reply With Quote
  #82  
Old January 28th, 2020, 08:20 AM

Ts4EVER Ts4EVER is offline
First Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 681
Thanks: 91
Thanked 250 Times in 132 Posts
Ts4EVER is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Ts4EVER scenarios

On the other hand, they also misidentified the new IS2 tanks they knocked out as "KVs" at first.
Reply With Quote
  #83  
Old January 28th, 2020, 04:46 PM
DRG's Avatar

DRG DRG is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: GWN
Posts: 12,480
Thanks: 3,952
Thanked 5,666 Times in 2,802 Posts
DRG will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Ts4EVER scenarios

Well that is easily done. The could have assumed it was a new variant of the KV....which it is actually...... and didn't know the new designation. In battle, a KV-85 could be mistaken for an IS-2 and vice-versa
__________________


"You are never to old to rock and roll if you are too young to die".--- What do you expect to be doing when you are 80?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kWt8ELuDOc
Reply With Quote
  #84  
Old January 28th, 2020, 04:50 PM
DRG's Avatar

DRG DRG is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: GWN
Posts: 12,480
Thanks: 3,952
Thanked 5,666 Times in 2,802 Posts
DRG will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Ts4EVER scenarios

Also FYI anyone building scenario's for the next update I have or have promised scenarios that ( right now....) go to 831 PLUS 13 slots beyond that are currently reserved so any new ones for now need to be numbered starting 845
__________________


"You are never to old to rock and roll if you are too young to die".--- What do you expect to be doing when you are 80?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kWt8ELuDOc
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to DRG For This Useful Post:
  #85  
Old January 30th, 2020, 05:46 PM
wulfir's Avatar

wulfir wulfir is offline
Major
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,009
Thanks: 142
Thanked 365 Times in 194 Posts
wulfir is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Ts4EVER scenarios

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ts4EVER View Post
Quite a bit like that. The Soviet ToE in my scenario is based on the recent Osprey Book about the battle and that one claims that while ISU 152s were roughly in that area, none were used by the units engaged. Because of that I went with the SU 76.
I don't have the Osprey title, but several other titles on the topic, including Erkki Käkelä's combat history of the Finnish assault gun battalion, from 2005 - some information could be dated.

Käkelä mentions that the Finns knocked out a IS-2 that was wrongly called a "Klim" in the war diary during the battle. He also claims the Finns used the term JS-122 for the IS-2.

Käkelä also claims that the initial contact on the LIIKOLA-KUUTERSELKÄ road was with five T-34/85 that were all knocked out.

Following this Lt Aulanko's platoon is to have been ordered forward by Kvikant, and after he had switched assault guns (his own having a mechanical problem) ran into a ISU-152 that was also knocked out.

Could be cases of mis-identification of course.

As for the defence of KUUTERSELKÄ Käkelä gives:
- bulk of the Soviet 72. Rifle Division
- 185. Tank Regiment
- 351. Assault Gun Regiment
- 46. Anti-tank Brigade
- 119. Seperate Anti-Tank Section (in Finnish terminology a section in the artillery branch is a battalion size formation)

He does not go into what state the Soviet units where, they were not very shy about using heavily worn/understrength formations...
Reply With Quote
  #86  
Old January 30th, 2020, 07:52 PM
DRG's Avatar

DRG DRG is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: GWN
Posts: 12,480
Thanks: 3,952
Thanked 5,666 Times in 2,802 Posts
DRG will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Ts4EVER scenarios

Quote:
Originally Posted by DRG View Post
Also FYI anyone building scenario's for the next update I have or have promised scenarios that ( right now....) go to 831 PLUS 13 slots beyond that are currently reserved so any new ones for now need to be numbered starting 845

EDIT CORRECTION !

847 is now the next free slot
__________________


"You are never to old to rock and roll if you are too young to die".--- What do you expect to be doing when you are 80?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kWt8ELuDOc
Reply With Quote
  #87  
Old January 31st, 2020, 12:23 AM

Ts4EVER Ts4EVER is offline
First Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 681
Thanks: 91
Thanked 250 Times in 132 Posts
Ts4EVER is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Ts4EVER scenarios

According to the Osprey book:

Quote:
Soviet intelligence had received information that the Finns were going to use the Armoured Division for the counter-attack. The Soviets prepared themselves by collecting one T‑34‑85 company from the 98th Separate Tank Regiment, a company of five IS-2 tanks from the 27th Guards Separate Heavy Tank Regiment and the 31st Guards Separate Heavy Breakthrough Tank Regiment to reinforce the 185th Separate Tank Regiment and the 1222nd SPG Regiment.
Quote:
The two rifle divisions in the centre and on the right flank were supported by an armoured force consisting of the 185th Separate Tank Regiment, 98th Separate Tank Regiment and the 1222nd Self-propelled Gun (SPG) Regiment. The 185th Separate Tank Regiment had about 17 operational T‑34s from a starting strength of 21 tanks. The 1222nd SPG Regiment had 17 of its original 21 SU‑76M self-propelled guns.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Ts4EVER For This Useful Post:
  #88  
Old February 2nd, 2020, 08:13 PM
DRG's Avatar

DRG DRG is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: GWN
Posts: 12,480
Thanks: 3,952
Thanked 5,666 Times in 2,802 Posts
DRG will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Ts4EVER scenarios

For anyone nervous about running out of scenario slots....



......you can stop worrying.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	2999.png
Views:	352
Size:	9.4 KB
ID:	15916  
__________________


"You are never to old to rock and roll if you are too young to die".--- What do you expect to be doing when you are 80?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kWt8ELuDOc
Reply With Quote
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to DRG For This Useful Post:
  #89  
Old February 2nd, 2020, 09:23 PM
zovs66's Avatar

zovs66 zovs66 is offline
First Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Ohio
Posts: 787
Thanks: 1,248
Thanked 575 Times in 312 Posts
zovs66 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Ts4EVER scenarios

And there was very much rejoicing, at least in my camp!!!
__________________
ASL
Reply With Quote
  #90  
Old February 5th, 2020, 12:33 PM
wulfir's Avatar

wulfir wulfir is offline
Major
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,009
Thanks: 142
Thanked 365 Times in 194 Posts
wulfir is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Ts4EVER scenarios

2999, hehe...

Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:08 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2024, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.