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Old November 2nd, 2020, 03:45 AM
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And just when we thought it was safe to get back in the water.

Seems field testing of the 12-man USMC rifle squad has run into some issues. No surprise, the 3-man fireteam was destined to have problems, one combat loss and the team loses 33% of it's effectiveness (probably 66% as a wounded man needs immediate treatment by his buddy for a couple minutes till a corpsman arrives).

So Headquarters Marine Corps is actually paying attention to the the professional infantry types and they're probably going to a 15-man squad.
1 x Squad Leader (Sgt)
1 x Assistant Squad Leader (Corp) Mostly to handle communications and position plotting
1 x Systems Operator (L/Cpl) To handle the squad drone and any other sensors the squad may be using
3 x 4-Man Fireteams
-- 1 x Team Leader (Cpl)
-- 1 x Automatic Rifleman (L/Cpl)
-- 1 x Rifleman M16 or DMR or MAAW as needed (PFC)
-- 1 x Grenadier M16+M302 (Pvt or PFC)

At this point NO CONCLUSIVE DECISION has made concerning the restructure, but the 15-man TO&E seems to be probable. Until a final decision is made no OOB changes are suggested.

(( If adopted this will require some serious rework when it comes to the passenger capacity of transports OR making a squad consist of 2 elements rather then one. ))
Okay that makes a bit more sense previous rendition they had reduced infantries AT capabilities. Not prudent as already lost the tanks so dealing with even light armour like IFV's could be a problem.
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Not relevant to the game but interesting info nonetheless

https://www.guns.com/news/2021/01/05...o-field-30-000
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Andy built a program to check differences between one version of an OOB and another to allow me to check some changes made and for giggles I thought I would compare what will be the next release USMC OOB with the one we issued with Ver1 of winSPMBT.

The results are attached for anyone interested in the work that goes into this. It is posted as an attachment because the list contains 23X more characters than is allowed for one post on Shrapnel and it's zipped because it's 12x bigger than the allowance for posting a TXT file!
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USMC helo count at the end of each calendar year on 31 Dec. Useful to help build scenarios, because you'll have an idea of just how much of a certain type the USMC had.

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MARINES AND HELICOPTERS 1946 - 1962
By Lieutenant Colonel Eugene W. Rawlins, USMC
HISTORY AND MUSEUMS DIVISION HEADQUARTERS, U. S. MARINE CORPS WASHINGTON, D. C. -- 1976
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Useful info for early date scenarios.

Most modern scenarios (late Vietnam to present day) should be based around an MEU which uses a composite helo squadron which is usually:
2x AH-1
3x UH-1
6x V-22
2x UH-53

Numbers will a bit depending on any expected missions.
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It seems the 12-man squad was just a(nother) temporary blip in USMC unit organization.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8l38U5Gb34

The 15-man squad squad is the new norm.

The above vid give an excellent break down of what was done when and why.
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Can the squad organization be broken down like it is for fireteams?
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Can the squad organization be broken down like it is for fireteams?
Easily.
The problem is the 10 unit limit in formations when it comes to motorized, mechanized, or heloborne forces.
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......and that's where " creativity" comes into play
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