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Old May 16th, 2022, 07:04 PM
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Fallout Re: International Defence Green and White Papers

I believe the following to be a very good appraisal of the situation and how Turkey will end up I believe supporting Finland and Sweden's applications to join NATO. I also like it's sourced from the Middle East; the perspective is valuable in that lest we forget, Turkey is a Islamic nation.
https://themedialine.org/top-stories...weden-finland/

Another perspective but first, Humeyra Pamuk co-author of the next is from Turkey and in Ankara for Reuters.
https://news.yahoo.com/nato-expects-...152511980.html

Well, what are we doing? The normal diplomatic stuff but materially a whole bunch of new advanced F-16 fighters. "Uncle Joe" is already laying the groundwork for this and you can expect bi-partisan support for it.

And yes, the F-35 is still off the table since Turkey bought and has since fielded the S-400 system.

This vote could happen possibly by the end of this week.

The Baltic Sea and the strategic Gotland, Fårö and Gotska Sandön Islands are the major issues for countries like Norway and Germany and by extension-the U.S. and others (Like Finland and Sweden).

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I'm betting "The Transcarpathian Beavers." sounds better in Ukrainian......
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I'm betting "The Transcarpathian Beavers." sounds better in Ukrainian......
Vol. 1 or Vol. 2?
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I believe the following to be a very good appraisal of the situation and how Turkey will end up I believe supporting Finland and Sweden's applications to join NATO. I also like it's sourced from the Middle East; the perspective is valuable in that lest we forget, Turkey is a Islamic nation.
https://themedialine.org/top-stories...weden-finland/

Another perspective but first, Humeyra Pamuk co-author of the next is from Turkey and in Ankara for Reuters.
https://news.yahoo.com/nato-expects-...152511980.html

Regards,
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I wouldn't bet big money on it going either way.

I only have a urethral understanding of what the Swedes or Finns may have done to annoy the Turks but thinking perhaps it involves the Kurds in some way but........ the bigger and more diverse an alliance gets, the more chance of internal conflict arising. We'll have to wait and see how this plays out.

The range of possibilities is wide

Not that long ago in the big scheme of things Russian, Great Britain and the United States were "allies" too.......
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Fallout Re: International Defence Green and White Papers

I believe the following is a fair assessment of the current situation in the Ukraine.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...f89d655015bef6

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