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Old December 7th, 2021, 02:55 PM
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Just do like to mention about unit 469 7.92 wz.08 AAMG in Polish OOB they have MG know in Poland as wz.08 HMG and in germany as MG08 HMG. but that is the same weapon from Kaiser army.
We have Lbm 896 which represents germans with this old AAMG propably in prewar times or meaby on eastern front i d'like to propse to replace this picture with lbm 897 which show actually polish cavalery soliders with this AAMG.
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Old December 8th, 2021, 10:27 AM
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Default Re: Polish OOB spob02 ver.2021

Also I just add some info about polish 7.92mm wz.35 Kb.Urugwaj AT-Rifle



I prepared a set of lbm's of this AT-Rifle. He was a secret weapon of Polish II republic that is why when was packed in boxes in storages was written on this boxes that this is an rifle for export for south american Uruguay.
here you can read whole story
https://warspot.net/348-karabin-wz-3...rzeczpospolita
After 1939 this weapon was captured by Germans which used this AT-rifle until end of 1940 when their own Panzerbuchse 1939 was introduced. They sold some number around 80 to Finland in 1941. Main number of this rifles was sold to Italy and they use them an all fronts they have around 800. Some numbers also goes to Hungary and Romania with polish units interned there. Propably Hungarians sold/gave them a small number in 1940 to Finland to using agains USSR but they come to late to take part in winter war so were used together with german delivery in continuation war last two from their storages sold in 1956 to USA. Here described Finish service https://www.jaegerplatoon.net/AT_RIFLES2.htm
Some propably quite big number was also captured by soviets in 1939 and take by them to storages there existing photo of workers militia around Moscov in 1941 which has kb.Ur wz.35 as their equipment together with other polish mg wz.28. Propably after desperate days of 1941 removed from service and take back to storages. What happens with them finally they were sold after WW2 in Midle east propably? American soliders found them as equipment of rebels in 2005 wz.35 was also used by Afganistan army propably before Ussr intervention because some of this rifles were used then by Mujahedinen there is story that one Wz.35 was responisble for destroy mi-24 on low alltitude? Don't know anything about their service in Romunian army they possible have some number but they use them on eastern front like italy don't know meaby they have them for homeland defense in storages?

Important is that this rifle was studied by soviets quite extensivly and some of the results were used during construction of PTRD

Here is movie a short reconstruction 2 min of useage of 7.92mm Kb.Ur wz.35 by unit of polish cavalry against german kfz.13 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVHa...ature=youtu.be
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Old December 8th, 2021, 11:29 AM
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Default Re: Polish OOB spob02 ver.2021

Proposed changes in polish OOB
  • unit 405 wz.35 AT-Rifle in spoob02 new picture Pm29994.lbm or Pm29995.lbm represents polish solder 1939
    orginal picture Pm695.lbm propably represents english solder with captured italian Fusille Contrcaro(P)or Italian? but I'm certain that isn't polish solder from 1939
  • will be great to add new partisan AK AT unit with Kb.Ur because there is photo from Warsaw uprising 1944 where this gun was used on baricade on Wola Pm29997.lbm
  • unit 291 DMntd Troopers can use Pm29996.lbm because this represents this rifle with cavalery solder with french adrian helmet Pm29996.lbm
  • unit 404 Boys AT Rifle in spoob02 better picture of polish solder in england Pm29999.lbm

Italian OOB 34
  • unit 339 FC Mod. 35(P) can use instad pm23510.lbm generic picture
    Pm695.lbm if that is Italian and also add AT wapons to their paratropers as new unit Pm29989.lbm I also don't think that Italians stop to use this rifle in 1942 if are photos of americans with this weapons on italian front during 1943. Meaby also RSI still used this weapon 1944-1945?

German OOB 16
  • unit 601 PzB 770p has propably wrong picture Pm9405.lbm german solders during WW1 with their M1918 AT-rifle or meaby during Weimar-Republic. I just propose Pm29990.lbm or Pm29991.lbm
    unit 784 InfGrp (sw) SS has great picture SS solider with Ur in France 1940

Finland OOB 35
  • there is no unit representing this rifle so I propse to add this this March 1940 and using until 1946 but after 1942 in storage pictures Pm29992.lbm or Pm29993.lbm

Soviet OOB 11
  • There also wz.35 not existing meaby addition as a Inf-AT before PTRS/PTRD where avaiable for example 11/39 to 12/41 in regular units but as rare used and then as militia support 11/41 until 4/42 then propably they were taken to storages. Pm29998.lbm famous pictures with Moscow militia.
  • In case of Moscow militia there existing in game picture Pm825.lbm which represents them 1941 with also polish captured wz.28 LMG will be great to have this unit in russian OOB in 1941

Hungarian and Romania OOB
Don't know but propably will be wort to add this rifle also to their inventory taken in 11/39 from polish interned units. Propably Hungarian have them short in small number then gave them to Finland but Romunian may have them until 1944 in storages and use during motherland defense and swithing sides?
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Default Re: Polish OOB spob02 ver.2021

Błażej, I sent you a private message concernig river ship icon - did you get it?
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Old January 15th, 2022, 05:26 PM
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Default Re: Polish OOB spob02 ver.2021

Already answered, problem is that I don't look there too often. I like this idea
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Default Re: Polish OOB spob02 ver.2021

Just d'like to propose this set of photos lbm's of MMG's to Polish/German/Spain Republic OOB's.

My propostion is to create in Spain Rep new unit Peleton wz.30 and Pel wz.30AA number 1700 MG's were sold to republicans. Also Frankist used captured wz.30

Germans also used them and there is lbm for unit 734 & 793 in German OOB

Rest are orginal photos of polish soliders using wz.08 MG/wz.14 MG/wz.30 MG/ Maxim LMG/ Maxim wz.10/28 MG
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Maybe they will get in, maybe they won't
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