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Old June 7th, 2022, 05:54 AM

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Russia used old tanks in exercises (for example, in 2019)
https://rg.ru/2019/08/30/ne-tolko-t-...-i-t-72av.html
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It's "ironic" to maybe see the buyer become the spare parts supplier to the seller.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...omponents.html

If I were the Ukrainians, I'd "take the deal" if offered. Those two companies mentioned in the article are supposedly manufacturing quality military grade parts. It might take some pressure off the domestic supplier for the same considering all the rest of the equipment they have to worry about.

The T-84 OPLOT (Not the "M") has been reported as being in action last week on the Eastern Front.

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There is a new "Panther" on the horizon

"Rheinmetall Presents KF51 Panther At Eurosatory 2022"

https://www.joint-forces.com/defence...urosatory-2022





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If anyone sees a top view of this please let me know





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Integrating a launcher for HERO 120 loitering munition from Rheinmetall’s partner UVision into the turret is equally possible. This enhances the KF51’s ability to strike targets beyond the direct line of sight.
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So anything on the KWI Leopard 2A7VA1 that was at the same show?
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This video should give you all the angles you'll need by freezing the frame.

It's ashamed we'll never see it.

There is already talk that if this "concept" moves along it could jeopardize the Franco/German LEOPARD 3 Project. This could lead to some diplomatic complications.

As the video points out there are still some "what ifs" to be resolved but that's what "concept" equipment are meant to do-push the R&D outside of the current design boundaries.
Certainly bears watching.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...tail&FORM=VIRE

What we might see is the BOXER A2 mounting a 50mm MG. The BUNDESWEHR apparently is already testing the PROTOTYPE from a couple of refs I have at this time.

On LEOPARD 2A7VA1 I can't find anything solid, however there is a LEOPARD 2A7A1 this simply indicates that it mounts APS TROPHY. I'm sure that "A1" indicates a "modified unit (Or similar wording.) ". So, LEOPARD 2A7V with APS TROPHY should be the LEOPARD 2A7VA1. Germany ordered late last year around 200 TROPHY Systems.

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The reason I am asking is that I have a cool picture over on Facebook of the Leo 2A7VA1 or so it's listed as being at the same show as the wonder tank, and they had just the one, Leo.

I tried to share the picture and the forums here didn't like that idea. Unless I missed how to upload a picture that doesn't require a link.
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Freezing a frame gave me " close enough "

From a top down game Icon perspective, it's not really a whole lot different than the 2a7

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Here is the picture.
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Karigin - I took your picture and saved it so I could "blow it up" to be sure; they added APS TROPHY as I suspected in my last post.

Looking at the picture to the left and level with the MG on the turret you'll see the standard 8-sided TROPHY "radar" cover you can also make out the same on the right side but with a "raised" profile due to the angle of the picture.

BUNDESWEHR plan is to mount TROPHY on a Company (17) of LEOPARD 2A7V(A1) for an upcoming NATO deployment in OCT. 2022 as I had already reported awhile back. This would result in a request to push back the START date due to final deliveries of the tanks to get this first German unit fully equipped.

I didn't see anything else to indicate any other equipment was outwardly added besides the APS TROPHY as compared to the LEOPARD 2A7V.

What I'm waiting on is a final decision by the BUNDESWEHR if they intend to mount the FLW 200 w/20mm AC as has been proposed.

Corrected my LEOPARD 2A6V(A1) to the CORRECT LEOPARD 2A7V(A1) in para 3 above. Sorry for any confusion.

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