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Old February 26th, 2010, 03:48 AM
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Lesson learned, identify your best sources and use and stick to them first. Recently a request for info was put out there and I used what I consider a "secondary" source of the ones I use for the sake of expediency over my two best ones. Will not happen again (I hope!), stay true to what you know. Reviewed
http://www.army-technology.com/ and everything was there for most of what was submitted by me. I feel like Mr. Toyoda. Not looking for any bridges (OR ANYTHING ELSE.) unless you want to buy one, just needed to vent. Besides the AI has changed it's tactics and I've some thinking to do to pull this out and avoid a draw! Working to retake the Kuriles! That source might help as "checker". Can you "copy" (normally "cut") from the net and then paste it here?
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Old February 27th, 2010, 09:59 AM
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Well thats a novel idea got to hit it with machine guns just a fraction before fire the RPG tricky, should send warhead designers off for a rethink.
Slightly off topic I see US modified Phalanx ship missile defence system for ground use, recalibrated to intercept incoming mortar rounds, would assume cant cover much of an area.
IIRC the chinese have something similar in operational service: a phalanx/goalkeeper style gun mounted on a truck with the associated systems. It is however meant to provide a last layer of defense against PGMs for high value targets (an important bridge or whatever), which is probably the only cost effective use for such a weapon most of the time. By cost I don't mean just the financial cost but all the associated issues that come with it. All that DU/tungsten etc you are putting in the air is going to come down somewhere and you don't want to have anyone there when that happens, not to mention making sure that one of the damn things doesn't lock on the helicopter of the general who's coming for an inspection...
Building mortar proof bunkers isn't that problematic, penetration against hardened targets is low.

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Old February 28th, 2010, 01:30 AM
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Don't want to stray too far off the ranch here but, I have heard someone else was involved and or interested in the CTCA 40mm to be used in the British MOD WARRIOR SV and FRES programs. With that said I'll simply leave you with "viva le France!" and this article:
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/article/article_1612.html

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Was just going through my main sources to see if there was any news for "my" threads when I came across this update
(see Post #1 for background.), my feeling is that BAE is going to win this contract with the British MOD under the FRES program. The modified CV9035 MKIII has just proven it can easily handle the additional 15 tons put on it from added protection and the new turret with the CTWS 40mm. It's been awful quite from General Dynamics concerning their modified ASCOD (Which will carry the same turret.). But you decide:
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/article/article_1628.html
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I believe that General Dynamics has won the "scout" portion of the FRES contract with the ASCOD II.
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php...57&c=EUR&s=TOP

Report: General Dynamics Wins U.K. Scout Contract
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LONDON - American firm General Dynamics is the winner over BAE Systems in the race to build a new generation of armored reconnaissance vehicles for the British Army, The Financial Times reported March 13.
A March 13 report said that General Dynamics has been selected to build 750 next-generation armored reconnaissance vehicles for the British Army. Above, an image of the proposed vehicle. (COURTESY OF GENERAL DYNAMICS UK)

The contract for scout variant of the British Army's Future Rapid Effects System vehicles is worth more than 1 billion pounds ($1.5 billion, 1.1 billion euros), the newspaper said.
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British defence equipment minister Quentin Davies will name General Dynamics as the preferred bidder in the deal to build an initial 750 vehicles, The Financial Times said.

General Dynamics' ASCOD 2 was in a head-to-head fight with BAE Systems' CV-90 MkIII.
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JohnAbrams21,
Seems as though we have a little controversy here!?! Yours was dated the 13th, mine the 18th this will require some digging into!! Thank you for the response! And I really liked the CV90 too!
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London Times reports the following on the 16th, could be a "leak":
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle7063234.ece
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God help me, my wife will kill me if I can't get up in 4hrs. to drive to Macon, GA. for the annual Cherry Blossom Fest. with the family in caravan. Can anyone offer asylum out there?!?
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Well it's official as of today, British MOD has awarded the
FRES SV portion of the program to General Dynamics. Theirs was the SV using the ASCOD-2 as the platform (The turret contract was already awarded w/the 40mm case mounted gun.) The rest of the FRES program could be in jeopardy to budget issues. Again see post #1. Article as reported from London Times:
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle7071312.ece
Related article:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7071924.ece

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Sorry Pat been a bit hectic of recent just noticed this, glad to see you survived the Cherry Blossom incident & are still reporting.
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John,
Thanks for the concern, we had a great weekend, and no asylum was needed! Figured you were tied up. Was going to post the news from the Telegraph as well but deleted the post by accident. Seems this decision has upset many in regards to England maintaining it's own tank making capacity and a lot of online info to suggest many in the Army preferred the CV-9035 MKIII over the ASCOD-2. Politics "ain't" it wonderful!?!
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