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May 27th, 2023, 01:35 AM
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Re: What happens in 2025?
Why don't we let Andy and Don say what they will do?
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May 27th, 2023, 08:25 AM
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Re: What happens in 2025?
"we" are not thinking that far ahead ATM.
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May 27th, 2023, 02:46 PM
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Re: What happens in 2025?
Well, I think something needs to be done, because both Steel Panthers titles combined together include all, or almost all the wars fought from 1930 to the near future. If WinSPMBT isn't updated or replaced by a new Steel Panthers title, Steel Panthers just won't be the great wargaming system that it is today. It will probably fade away and become one of those games we played "back in the day".
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May 27th, 2023, 02:51 PM
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Re: What happens in 2025?
1911 to present (I am pretty sure I designed a 1911 scenario, for sure a 1914 one). It won’t fade away trust me.
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May 27th, 2023, 07:25 PM
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Re: What happens in 2025?
I played the "Broken Arrow" demo and was impressed by it's ability to model vehicles and weapons systems. BUT since it was a demo there were several issues with the weapons systems (types and numbers) the USMC fielded.
My major ... and it is MAJOR ... problem is that it's an RTS.
If you're expected to command/fight a company/battalion/brigade size formation I DEMAND the game be turn based. Because you can't see and be everywhere at once.
So while I'll probably buy/play "Broken Arrow" it can never replace WinSPMBT.
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May 28th, 2023, 01:00 AM
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Re: What happens in 2025?
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I played the "Broken Arrow" demo and was impressed by it's ability to model vehicles and weapons systems. BUT since it was a demo there were several issues with the weapons systems (types and numbers) the USMC fielded.
My major ... and it is MAJOR ... problem is that it's an RTS.
If you're expected to command/fight a company/battalion/brigade size formation I DEMAND the game be turn based. Because you can't see and be everywhere at once.
So while I'll probably buy/play "Broken Arrow" it can never replace WinSPMBT.
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Sir, I agree. RTS can't work until you can give an order to a platoon, company, battalion and expect it to be carried out while you are somewhere else.
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May 29th, 2023, 02:28 AM
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Re: What happens in 2025?
Well, I would respectfully disagree with some of the comments made here.
A game " dies" when the players stop playing it plain and simple.
I somewhat resent the fact that some people have worked real hard on these games outside of Andy and Don in many ways from equipment, scenarios, campaigns and play testing and I'm sure in other capacities as well since it's inception almost.
How with so MANY OOBs can a player feel the game isn't relevant it least on the playability side?
There are several hundred possible combinations in the game. Not including all the Scenarios and Campaigns that people out here have gotten added to the game.
With my current two-year Generated Campaign, I've got it set at 35 battles.
I'll be put in an oven and cooked too well done before I could even come close to exhausting this game.
I cut my teeth in Africa, South America before I went to Europe or Asia. Why don't you visit there as well?
So, I now you to ScotCana Airways!!!!!!
May I suggest since most if not all of you already bought the " unlimited ticket" to travel the world within in these games that maybe you just might want to visit different parts of it!?!
I can ensure your flight will be non-stop with no turbulence and if you choose, Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner or Snacks will be offered at no charge by ScotCana Airways.
As always also there further will be no charge for luggage, devices, boarding passes with free parking!
Finally, as frequent flyers you still get head of the line Check In Boarding and Deplaning Privileges.
Depending on where you land be advised ScotCana Airways absolves itself of ANY responsibility for your personal safety as in some areas "might" be considered dangerous.
So, this is your Pilot FB (If I can drive a Submarine I sure as poop can fly a jet! ), Welcome Aboard Flight 1930-2025 non-stop to the world!! Please buckle up we'll be wheels up shortly as we are 6th in the que. Have a Wonderful Day!!
We fly better aircraft than these guys as we use hydrogen powered engines, and all our seats are first class!!
https://skycana.com/nuestra-flota/
https://www.loganair.co.uk/our-story/our-fleet/
Sorry Andy best I could do!
Regards,
Pat
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July 28th, 2023, 08:24 PM
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Re: What happens in 2025?
I promise that when MBT dies, MustangMBT will continue.
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July 28th, 2023, 10:48 PM
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Re: What happens in 2025?
Couldn't a drone spotter just be a size0 helicopter with difficult-to-kill stat? Kamikaze drones function like airstrikes. While the grenade drops and kamikaze drones look impressive the most battlefield impact has been as arty spotters.
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August 6th, 2023, 03:13 PM
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Lieutenant General
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Re: What happens in 2025?
Don't expect the current effects of cheap drones to last.
They're VERY effective at the moment because basically no one has developed a defense against them but that will change FAST. Simple jamming or an EM pulse will drop them in a heartbeat.
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