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Old March 12th, 2022, 09:38 AM
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Seems like a decent scenario right there. Only, the game AI will probably do a better job at fighting than the actual Russian army...
If you build it I will include it
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Just d'like to add some info about Ukrainian captured equipment on invaders side

Kozak Varta armoured cars with NLAW in DPR hands https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/co..._and_varta_as/

HMMWV also in DPR https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/co...aptured_hmmwv/

Sommetimes tanks switches sides two times like this Ukrainian T-64BV
https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/co..._captured_and/

BTR-4 with new owners
https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/co...ukranian_btr4/

And here photo from Volnovakha captured T-64 by Ukrainians



And here video manual for Ukrainian ordinary soldiers how drive a T-72
if you found them only scratched in drivable condition
https://youtu.be/Jp7L4MhRkTQ

MkV from Kharkiv from city centre square before this war hope he will survive destruction of the city and we can see that tank in future not so many of them still existing and take parts in all this wars since WWI

https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/co...ese_tanks_get/

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MkV from Kharkiv from city centre square before this war hope he will survive destruction of the city and we can see that tank in future not so many of them still existing and take parts in all this wars since WWI

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35 people have been killed after a Ukrainian military base, less than 15 miles from the Polish border, was targeted in a Russian airstrike, the governor of the Lviv region has said.
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Started to work on some stuff, what is the first free slot?

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Started to work on some stuff, what is the first free slot?

Right now it's 443....
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Regarding the use of Ukrainian OOB Units:

061: T-84 Oplot
063: T-84 Oplot+
064: T-84 Oplot-M (aka BM Oplot)

In scenarios....

Wikipedia (i know, I know) says that ten T-84 Oplot were completed; while Laser Shark on Tanknet (https://www.tanknet.org/index.php?/t...omment=1583276) pointed out that at least three Oplot-BM were completed, being assigned as such:

1 x to USA for OPFOR
1 x for International Arms Expo Shows
1 x to Ukrainian Army.

Not sure if or where they're going to show up, though, but I suppose it would make sense to group them together with the other T-84s in a single company, and then attach it to some tank battalion.

I checked Ukrainian Wikipedia and found these two articles:

https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2...BE%D1%82%C2%BB
https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91...BE%D1%82%C2%BB

Basically, Laser Shark was right:

Ukranian Wikipedia says:

The T-84 company took part in the military parade in 2003.

And this Ukrainian Site (https://www.ukrmilitary.com/2018/09/melnyk.html)

says

"Now these machines have been transferred to the 169th Desna Training Center to continue the cycle of operation, where everything possible will be squeezed out of them. The main end result, namely - a serviceable, reliable machine that will meet all the requirements of our tankers."

(169-й навчальний центр «Десна»)

I looked it up:

https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/169-%D...BD%D0%B0%C2%BB

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The 169th Desna Training Center named after Prince Yaroslav the Wise ( 169 NC , unit A0665) is a military unit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine specializing in the training of personnel for various branches of the Land Forces of Ukraine . It reports directly to the command of the ground forces. Located in the village of Desna, Chernihiv region .
If you look up Desna's location on a map... it's just north of Kiev, right along the line of the eastern pincer.

So it looks like the lone T-84 Oplot Company in Ukraine has probably already seen combat (and been wiped out) in fighting against the Eastern Pincer against Kiev.
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Thinking though, that had that been the case the Russians would have been releasing lots of photos of Ukraine's top of the line tanks destroyed and that hasn't happened
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Interesting video.
I don't know the exact units in it.
I'm assume the Ukrainian vehicle which is doing the shooting is some form of BTR, where the 2 (or 3?) Russian vehicles are...well the last one looks a lot like a BMP-1, but I leave that to the experts.

Regardless of what exactly they are I find a few interesting things about it, including how the what might be Russian troops taking cover behind the "BMP-1" and possibly having their legs and rest getting...retired. Just taking cover behind the IFV when there are buildings all around then feels a bit...it feels like the Russians are suffering not only from inexperienced young troops, but also for close to non existent officers on the field.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ4Auwi7_FA
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Yeah the lower legs of the section were clearly in view of the firing unit and that's not "a good thing"
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