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January 29th, 2013, 04:24 AM
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Re: The UAV Club
I Hope realistic UAV simulation wilk be included in 6.5
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February 3rd, 2013, 04:52 AM
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Re: The UAV Club
Personally I'm still overjoyed that last patch Area SAMs no longer fire on spotter aircraft.
I've spent a LOT of time experimenting with various size and EW ratings for UAV's. So far I can't say as I've had much success at keeping the AI MPAD hordes from blowing them outta the sky sooner far more often then later.
Just "one of those things".
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February 20th, 2013, 06:26 AM
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Re: The UAV Club
In my honest opinion, UAV/Hellfire for USA OOB and MQ1 Predator A in the USMC OOB need to be updated.
They carry in the typical payload NOT ONLY ONE HELLFIRE, BUT TWO.
http://defense-update.com/products/p/predator.htm
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February 20th, 2013, 07:22 PM
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Re: The UAV Club
I recall A-10s sometimes carry two Mavericks, one armed and one disarmed to use as a target designator. That might be it but since the Hellfire has a purely passive seeker probably not.
The other possibility is that the Predator is carrying a Finder mini-UAV in the other pylon to locate targets.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miniatu...d_.22Finder.22
It's also not unknown for Predators to carry just one Hellfire in combat. Maybe they don't want the operators wasting $60000 missiles.
The reasons why are probably classified, but I don't know if it's normal to fire two Hellfires in flight because the airframe can barely handle one launch without falling apart. The Predator actually uses a special Hellfire with reduced thrust to prevent that.
But since I see pictures of MQ 1s with two missiles all the time, it probably makes sense to change the Predator loadout to two Hellfires.
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February 21st, 2013, 04:23 PM
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Re: The UAV Club
The standard predator has already been upgraded to 2 hellfires. The latest version the MQ-9 Reaper..... carries 14
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February 22nd, 2013, 11:24 PM
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Re: The UAV Club
Looks like Al Qaeda now has + 5 Defense on rolls against drones.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...usaolp00000003
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Military officials can tell why: The fighters are stretching the mats across the tops of their cars on poles to form natural carports, so that drones cannot detect them from the air.
The instruction to camouflage cars is one of 22 tips on how to avoid drones, listed on a document left behind by the Islamic extremists as they fled northern Mali from a French military intervention last month. A Xeroxed copy of the document, which was first published on a jihadist forum two years ago, was found by The Associated Press in a manila envelope on the floor of a building here occupied by al-Qaida of the Islamic Maghreb.
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"He and his men got out of the car and dove under the awning," said al-Housseini. "As for what I did? Me and my employees? We also ran. As fast as we could."
Along with the grass mats, the al-Qaida men in Mali made creative use of another natural resource to hide their cars: Mud.
Asse Ag Imahalit, a gardener at a building in Timbuktu, said he was at first puzzled to see that the fighters sleeping inside the compound sent for large bags of sugar every day. Then, he said, he observed them mixing the sugar with dirt, adding water and using the sticky mixture to "paint" their cars. Residents said the cars of the al-Qaida fighters are permanently covered in mud.
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Would be amusing if the brown-green cars in the Al Qaeda OOB got reduced size or an EW point.
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Reason: more of the article
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February 23rd, 2013, 06:05 AM
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So is Al Qaeda claiming they've invented camouflage?
Or that they just figured out how to use it?
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May 26th, 2013, 09:28 PM
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Re: The UAV Club
Just came across this interesting article on NAV's some might find interesting. The videos are worth a look as well. DRDO is tasked to make them smaller and smarter. You don't to read this however, the next time you're in the garden etc. and "spy" a beetle on a plant, you just might want to make it's not really spying on you!
http://www.airforce-technology.com/f...-in-the-skies/
And a new mini UAV SpyLite from Israel.
http://www.airforce-technology.com/p...ni-uav-system/
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May 27th, 2013, 05:23 AM
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Re: The UAV Club
That SpyLite looks fairly similar to the original UAVs from the 80's.
Basically a model airplane with a camera mounted in the nose.
I also recall reading they made a 40mm round for the M203 with a camera in the nose.
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