About green dragon - Page 3

parone · #21 January 30th, 2013, 06:49 PM

cut yourself a break!! we all summoned em like mad. you deserve the 'discount zmey' too

Soyweiser · #22 February 6th, 2013, 04:34 PM

latest version is 1.94 iirc.

JonBrave · #23 February 6th, 2013, 04:56 PM

On the subject of Zmeys...

In my (first, SP CBM 1.92) game summoning these, I've had mixed success: I've been using them as lone raiders to fly into AI territories, great when lightly defended (e.g. up to 30 defenders), but they lose if they land in an army.

Doubtless I could do with more scouting for adjacent provinces, but I get too impatient if I see a juicy temple one ...

Am I not using my Zmeys optimally/sensibly?

parone · #24 February 6th, 2013, 09:38 PM

well jon, how are they losing? are they retreating after they lose a head?

i haven't used zmeys in awhile, what with their increased cost, along with some bad luck in game, but if i remmember, i think we almost always used a lycanthros amulet with them-the one that makes them beserk? then they wouldn't retreat. it made them a lot more effective. if you have the nature, throw a ring of regen on too. against the AI(who sucks against thugs, has no idea how to use S magic) that kit should be really really good.

Soyweiser · #25 February 7th, 2013, 07:25 AM

Zmey did not see a lot of use until somebody realized that the lycan ammu, and the +3 reinvig items (the 5 earth gem one) nicely avoided most of the general Zmey weaknesses. (Lycan gives regen and berserk, forcing the zmey to stay in the fight, and the reinvig made the zmey almost fatigue neutral).

And with this setup you got one spare misc slot for one more item.

Basically 10 gems of gear makes zmey a lot more dangerous. And it could easily best most pd up to 20. And in a lot of cases even more.

Eventually they turned up everywhere in MP.

JonBrave · #26 February 7th, 2013, 05:57 PM

Re Zmeys: Haven't forged either lycans or regen/reinvig rings... My equip was Horror Helmet + Dancing Trident + Horned Helmet + Pendant of Luck...

@Soy
I had no problem when I landed in PD 20s... My problems would be when I landed smack in the midst of a modest army, like I said maybe I hadn't scouted enough and got too impatient! They would be surrounded and do well, but eventually overwhelmed. I plan to use a pair of them next!

Soyweiser · #27 February 7th, 2013, 10:13 PM

Try a lycan ammy and reinvig 3 belt. You will not be disappointed.

parone · #28 February 7th, 2013, 11:47 PM

yeah, but soy, he likes gearin' em heavy. let him mess around. when he starts playing multi, then you can teach him all you slick nasty soyweiser tricks...

Soyweiser · #29 February 15th, 2013, 06:37 AM

I didn't start gearing them that way. Don't know who did. But it revolutionized zmey production.

Edit: somebody should patent it.