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Old March 15th, 2021, 04:34 PM
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There's a new Icon for the HOK-1 Huskie which is the weirdest damned helo I have ever seen but it was designed by Flettner and there's just nothing else like it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRI1roI-vk4

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BTW: I've just checked in said "War machine" no 96 and it seems, that Belvedere appears much too early (1950) - its predecessor first flew in 1952, and series Belvederes were delivered to the RAF from 8/1961 only, and remained until 3/69 (now 65).
I've noticed, that Belvedere (British, I assume) is present also in Malaysian oob in the same period. Speaking of which, 320 Whirlwind has Wessex icon.
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Old August 31st, 2021, 05:09 PM

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I've read an article on A129 Mangusta development in Polish "Nowa Technika Wojskowa" 9/2015, and it shows, that Italian Mangustas shouldn't use Hellfire, and they should have 20 mm gun instead of 12.7mm.

Italian OOB34

505 A-129 Mangusta - only Mangusta CBT were integrated with Stinger, not early variant.

506 A-129 Mangusta - there were no Italian Mangustas with Hellfire, especially early variant. It was only proposed for export Mangusta International variant (confirmed at https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/AgustaWestland_AW129 )

507,510 A-129 CBT - there were no Hellfire armed Italian variants

508,509 A-129 CBT - it should have #179 20 mm M197 gun, not 12.7mm.
However, TI and RF values should remain on ordinary A-129 level, because there were no substantial changes in this field, mostly engines and armament (no TI, no laser RF). EW has been improved, FC could have been improved as well (newer software)

I'm not sure if 7 x 2x81 mm rockets is correct, since it carries two launchers with 7 rockets each (1 rocket for 1 HE?)

Hellfire-armed 507, 510 should be replaced with new A-129D Mangusta with 20 mm M197 gun and Spike-ER (I don't know how many - 4?), with all remaining stats based upon current A-129 CBT (TI 40, EW 7, FC 40, RF 14).
Modified helicopters were tested from 9/13, but I'm not sure when they became operational. According to https://zbiam.pl/12-tys-godzin-wlosk...-afganistanie/ they operated over Afghanistan since 11/2014

A-129 CBT with 8 TOW and 2x7 81mm rockets is also possible https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mangusta_EI.jpg

910 Agusta 129 EA-1 - there was no such Italian variant in 1997. Only export International was proposed wih 20 mm gun at that time. Italian A129 CBT was fitted with 20mm gun eventually, but appeared in 2002 (units 507-510). 51mm rockets are not listed as A129 armament - only 81 mm and 70 mm Hydra


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620-623 T-129 - basic T-129A were commissioned from 6/14, but armed with 20mm M179 Gattling and 70 mm rockets only (up to 4 x 19).

Only T-129B were meant to be armed with UMTAS AT-missiles (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTAS) - no Hellfire or Tow used.
It can use also Cirit rockets https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roketsan_Cirit and Stingers. They were to be delivered from late 2015, but I'm not sure if they have entered service already.

Name could be T129 ATAK https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/TUSA%C5%9E_T-129_Atak (it also confirms deliveries of the first one in 4/14)

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Hungary OOB 38

Bought 20 helicopters H145M - deliveries starting from 11/19 https://www.airforce-technology.com/...pters-hungary/

From 11/20 several were upgraded to H145M HForce armed variant, apparently typically with one 12-tube rocket launcher (68 mm or 70 mm, I don't know which they chose) and 20 mm gun pod (photo: https://milmag.pl/uzbrojone-h145m-na-wegrzech/). According to https://www.janes.com/defence-news/n...an-h145m-helos they were going to be operational only in 7/21.
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Poland OOB02

I was quite surprised to read in Polish Nowa Technika Wojskowa 6/21, that Mi-2URP (unit 117) and URP-G (unit 740), with Malutka missiles, still serve in Polish Army (of course, rather for combat training purpose - however, they are currently the only Polish helicopters with anti-tank - well, maybe "anti-AFV" missiles rather... Polish Mi-24 are still lacking ATGMs). Predictably, they will serve until 2025 at least... Part have been modified to use night vision goggles, but I don't know if it enhances vision.

On the other hand, other armed variants of Mi-2: URN/URNG (#115/741) with rockets and US with machine guns (#742) most probably ceased to be used well before 2015 - I would say 2005 at best.

967 Mi-2 Kania - PZL Kania was a Polish variant of Mi-2 with western engines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZL_Kania , but unfortunately only 19 were made and were not used by Polish Army.

963 SW-3W Huzar - unfortunately, pure fiction. There were only technology demonstrators with South African missiles (1993), then HOT-3 (1999) and Spike (2016), but there are no plans to buy any.

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When you mentioned about this Mi-2 still in usage I dig and found some propostion of improved more detailed Mi-2 icons which I d'like to share. These are of course generic without weapons but if will be usefully I can made variants with with Rockets and ATGM's

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Nice work Blazejos !!!
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On the other hand, other armed variants of Mi-2: URN/URNG (#115/741) with rockets and US with machine guns (#742) most probably ceased to be used well before 2015 - I would say 2005 at best.
I've found a new article on Polish helicopters (Nowa Technika Wojskowa 4/2021), according to which #742 Mi-2US was introduced in mid-1971 (say, 1/72) and retired already in late 1970s - rebuilt to URN and URP (now 73-115)

741 Mi-2URNG - I was going to write, that the variant with Strela AAMs in addition to rockets surely didn't appear as early as 1973 - but when I started to dig, I haven't found any sign, that it actually existed, even as a prototype (there was first a prototype URS with Strelas only). The mentioned article says, that Strelas were adapted only for missile-armed URP-G.

Maybe missile load of 117,740 Mi-2URP / URPG could be doubled - they carried 4 missiles on launchers, but additional 4 were carried inside, and could be reloaded in a few minutes after landing in field.
The latter's designation is always written as URP-G. According to the article, it was tested in 1987 and commissioned only in 1988 (now 1/87)

114 Mi-4A - all but one withdrawn already by 10/84, last one in 7/85 (now 12/85)

Mi-6 were also used in 1/86 - 8/90 (could be copied from Russian oob, but unarmed)
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Ecuador OOB82

Received H145 Cobra from 10/2020 - apparently unarmed https://www.aviacionline.com/2021/04...us-h145-cobra/
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It would appear these are not already in the game and it would appear that at least 6 OOB's should have them so this goes on the list for the next update.
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