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Old April 11th, 2020, 04:50 PM

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Default Siege of Jadotville has anyone done a scenario on this

I was wondering if anyone has done a scenario for the Siege of Jadotville?
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Default Re: Siege of Jadotville has anyone done a scenario on this

If they have it's not in the game. Assuming you own the full version open up ScenHack and goto the search tab and enter a simple text string like

ville

scenario 0172 - 172 Dragon Rouge, Congo 1964 <<< stanleyville, belgium congo* >>>
scenario 0400 - USMC Alpha 1/6 Marjeh 1200h <<< jacksonville, nc crew of 2* >>>
scenario 0473 - Red Dawn: Covering Force 9/88 <<< battle location: rossville, texas* >>>

Jadotville has been brought up though on this forum but only in the context of the movie made about it
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Default Re: Siege of Jadotville has anyone done a scenario on this

Yeah, I bought the full version. I was hoping someone had done a scenario based on the battle.

Maybe we need a challenge or something for the African Wars to get a good push for scenarios and such...just ideas as I wander around the game and trying to get all my OLD scenarios converted over and keep the older SP2 games running with DOSBox, which hates me right now.
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Default Re: Siege of Jadotville has anyone done a scenario on this

A Jadotville scenario idea was floated years ago, but IIRC back then it was difficult to figure out many details on the Irish OOB, including what small arms were used...

There are a few Africa scenarios in the game. Scen 261 is a small but history based scenario set in the 1960s Katanga...
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Default Re: Siege of Jadotville has anyone done a scenario on this

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Yeah, I bought the full version. I was hoping someone had done a scenario based on the battle.

Maybe we need a challenge or something for the African Wars to get a good push for scenarios and such...just ideas as I wander around the game and trying to get all my OLD scenarios converted over and keep the older SP2 games running with DOSBox, which hates me right now.
From the old Cyberstrategie:

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LES IRLANDAIS DE JADOTVILLE*
*
Avance des mercenaires katangais*
_________contre*
_____Retard de l'ONU*
*
Date : 13 septembre 1961*
Site : Jadotville - Katanga*
*
Depuis le 12 septembre, le Major belge Moreau assiege une compagnie irlandaise avec des ‚lements de la gendarmerie katangaise. Apres le declenchement de Morthor, des renforts sous la direction du capitaine francais Lasimone lui sont envoyes. Le seul
avion
de combat des Forces A‚riennes Katangaises, un Fouga-Magister pilot‚ par le capitaine belge Deulin et base … Kolwezy, effectua plusieurs missions de straffing. Finallement, le 17 septembre, l'eau ayant ‚t‚ coup‚e depuis trois jours, il se rendirent au
Ministre de l'Interieur Godfroid Munongo.
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JADOTVILLE IRISHES *
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Advance of Katangese mercenaries *
_________against*
_____ UN delay *
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Date: September 13, 1961 *
Site: Jadotville - Katanga *
*
Since September 12, the Belgian Major Moreau besieges an Irish company with elements of the Katangese gendarmerie. After the triggering of Morthor, reinforcements under the direction of the French captain Lasimone are sent to him. The only
plane
of combat of the Katangaise Air Forces, a Fouga-Magister piloted by the Belgian captain Deulin and based in Kolwezy, carried out several straffing missions. Finally, on September 17, the water having been cut for three days, they went to the
Minister of the Interior Godfroid Munongo.
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Default Re: Siege of Jadotville has anyone done a scenario on this

Hey KARANGIN...

would you mind posting all your old scenarios or collected SP2 scenarios?

A lot of older stuff was "lost to the mists of time" because 1997-2005 is now about 20-25 years in the past; and many sites were hosted on places now gone.

Even "stable" things like The Wargamer's Scenario Archives have gone POOF -- despite the Wargamer still existing -- the scenario archives got "lost" in the turnover of administrators and upgrades of the site -- we've seen a lot of changes over 20 years in the technology of the internet.

EDIT: Back in 2016, someone tried to save some of the Old Wargamer Scenario Archives -- he was able to save metadata for all 4,833 scenarios, but could only actually save 1,449 scenarios.

https://archive.org/details/Wargamer...ve20160514.tar

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Default Re: Siege of Jadotville has anyone done a scenario on this

This post contains the old Cyberstratege SP2 "Affreux" African scenario pack with modified SP2 OOBs.

It's basically a 14-scenario pseudo campaign that starts with "The Irish of Jadotville" and ends with a scenario on The battle of Kolweizi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kolwezi
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Default Re: Siege of Jadotville has anyone done a scenario on this

Note that the link above is where I pulled out the 100 or so SPMBT scenarios and one CG along with about 20 or so WW2 and 2 CG and these (sans the 2 WW2 CG) are already in the game.

For either game use Scenhack and the last tab search for “missing and lost” and you’ll find all the scenarios I salvaged.

Note: it’s a real pain in the butt to fix and recover old lost scenarios and in my opinion it is just better to rebuild them from scratch. I say this due to my experience with trying to resurrect over 120 scenarios and 3 CG. There are 2 CG and about 5-10 scenarios that I could not salvage or repair.
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So my bottom line is if you think you found something lost, double check Scenhack, I most likely already have found it and converted it. I also salvaged what I could from those old yahoo groups.
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Default Re: Siege of Jadotville has anyone done a scenario on this

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Hey KARANGIN...

would you mind posting all your old scenarios or collected SP2 scenarios?

A lot of older stuff was "lost to the mists of time" because 1997-2005 is now about 20-25 years in the past; and many sites were hosted on places now gone.

Even "stable" things like The Wargamer's Scenario Archives have gone POOF -- despite the Wargamer still existing -- the scenario archives got "lost" in the turnover of administrators and upgrades of the site -- we've seen a lot of changes over 20 years in the technology of the internet.

EDIT: Back in 2016, someone tried to save some of the Old Wargamer Scenario Archives -- he was able to save metadata for all 4,833 scenarios, but could only actually save 1,449 scenarios.

https://archive.org/details/Wargamer...ve20160514.tar
It doesn't feel like 25 years have gone by...I will dig up what I can find. I am searching hard drives and CDs...
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