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Old November 17th, 2017, 05:07 AM
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The following are to be an update and FYI future.
issue.

1) T-14 further confirmation that the T-14 won't be operational until earliest 2018+ and second ref. acts as an updated tech/data for the T-14 which makes this the second or third update thus far. Still showing as a prototype tank.
"What makes the 2018-2027 armaments program so special is the conversion of experimental products still in the testing phase into serial ones. This applies to Armata, the T-14 main battle tank, the frontline aviation system (T-50/PAK-FA - Mine), the new generation long-range aircraft and many other items, he said. (Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin - Mine)"
https://www.armyrecognition.com/nove...tle_tanks.html
https://www.armyrecognition.com/russ..._pictures.html


2) T-90S Looks like Russia is finally going to sell this tank to Iraq in the near future. Good thing we didn't sell them our top tier ABRAMS now that the Russians are "nosing" around. The contract is now in the implementation phase.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/nove..._supplies.html

3) Well we'll likely not see this game wise even if it does get done as currently planned, but India has apparently woken up to the fact they can't do the multi-purpose Future Ready Combat Vehicle (FRCV) on their own. That's progress for them. Theirs LONG been distrust from the Army concerning DARDO their developmental group that produced the ARJUN MkI and soon the MkII tanks. Notice who one of the four they're interested in is. as recently discussed in my last above.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/nove..._t-72_mbt.html

4) BTR-60PB - Concerning the ref. below, the information concerning the use of the T-54A is incorrect. There is no record of them (Cuba) receiving the T-54 in any variant. They did receive the following from the SIPRI database from the Soviet Union (Yes they make that distinction from Russia.)
(25) T-55 Tank O-1981 D-1981 (25) Second-hand; incl some T-54T ARV That was the last T-55 shipment to Cuba.

Also while I'm on it this is the other BTR-60 variant Cuba received...
(10) BTR-60P APC O-(1984) D-1985-1986 (10) BTR-60PU-12 CP version; for use with 9K35 (SA-9) SAM systems

Other tanks ordered were the IS-2/SU-100/T-34/85/PT-76 and as also already mentioned the T-62 as ordered in 1984 and delivered btwn 1984-1988 (Last and final shipment to Cuba from the Soviet Union. With NONE from Russia.)
http://www.military-today.com/artillery/cuban_fsv.htm
http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade...e_register.php
http://www.ipernity.com/doc/594807/30195841



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Interesting photo of recycled old fuel barrel on polish T-72



Also polish modification of Su-76 from late 50 for ammo/support vehicles with DshK used in SU-76 batteries.

http://imgur.com/9UaQedE.jpg
http://imgur.com/WsfOY90.jpg

Bulgarian modification of PZIV with Su-76 gun from cold war
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kUOMg-jLQr...0/Pz4-Zis3.jpg
http://en.valka.cz/files/pz_iv__-_su76_785.jpg
http://en.valka.cz/attachments/9328/11683680cf6.jpg

http://airgroup2000.com/gallery/albu...2/DSC_0221.jpg

Polish prototype of T-54ATGM build with better protection against ATGM. On turret added wire protection and screens on sides and front.
http://i.imgur.com/hTzmPFW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/b1bUa3I.jpg
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Old December 3rd, 2017, 10:57 PM
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I wouldn't think it much matters(?) game wise in terms of how many of the Cromwell tanks could've been reused after the "Battle of Happy Valley" since it appears the ones they got had successfully been attacked by the use of pole charges by the Chinese.
At best I wouldn't think more than a handful (Though one below suggests 12 were reused.), but what an interesting piece of history that as these articles suggest has been forgotten about on the other side "of the pond" as well. In order of mentioning the CROMWELL tanks specifically...
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/s...-28506063.html
From the next...
"Some saw service in the Korean War with the 7th RTR and the 8th King’s Royal Irish Hussars." Also the mod section shows a CROMWELL of 1950 in the 7th RTR paint scheme.
http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww...I_Cromwell.php
https://tankandafvnews.com/2015/04/0...he-korean-war/
Taken from the above...
http://hosungw.blogspot.com/2015/03/...-by-north.html


More of the battle and remembrance...
https://www.royal-irish.com/stories/...r-rifles-korea
https://www.royal-irish.com/events/r...gunghyon-korea
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/worl...lley-1.1372892
https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/ul...ttle-1-5084140
http://www.korea.net/NewsFocus/Socie...ticleId=107569


If I may...
It seems that what I had onboard was "disrupted" enough to have been rendered dead by my security protocols, well pretty much anyway and it wasn't going anywhere. But not wanting to show up on the search for this culprit on this site, as happened to one of our long time contributors, I for my piece of mind and if needed here should my IP Address had of come up as well, spent $150.00 (So Merry Christmas to my PC!) to be sure, my protocols were good resulting in no malicious malware or viruses. Just some registry issues that needed some attention that were starting to cause some very minor performance issues (Need to get a better Registry Cleaner I suppose.) Got other things done for the price as well hardware wise etc. Bottom-line well worth the price of being a good citizen on this forum.

So to everyone that reported this issue my thanks as it made me more aware of mine!

Andy and Don what more needs to be said, but, thanks again for keeping use in the loop and making my PC happy with it's Christmas present though, early!?!

Mr. Brooks I haven't forgotten your wonderful staff and your personal involvement a handful of years back in taking care of me that allowed me to "Get BACK IN THE GAME " That being said it's hard enough in this business (Or any now.) competitive as it is, to deal with something like this out of nowhere, so again I have the pleasure to thank your staff and you for doing all that could've been done to make things right again in our world.

It's a good day when I can use some "Smilies"!!

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Fallout Re: MBT's

Something new from one of my oldest refs. and New Year Last Year in Review or if you will, NYLYR HMmmm, what you call a liar from NY!?! Anyway here's Part 1...
https://www.armyrecognition.com/janu...17_part_1.html

The next is a "crossover" item though the new BTR-4 variant looks really good, it's what's said about the T-72AMT's ATGW the LUCH that caught my eye as a farther conformation of it's performance as I posted several months back on Ukraine's latest ATGW's. Also I'll post the Data Sheets for both of these pieces of equipment, generally speaking, when they run an article like this those sheets are likely to have been updated.
Located at bottom of ref. 1..."...developed by State Kyiv Design Bureau ‘Luch’. This missile uses a semi-automatic guidance from laser beam and [b]can penetrate 750 mm of armour at a range of 5 km."
https://www.armyrecognition.com/janu...72amt_mbt.html

The BTR-4MV1 and T-72AMT Data Sheets...
https://www.armyrecognition.com/arms...rity_2017.html
https://www.armyrecognition.com/arms...rity_2017.html


Not what I was expecting but a small plus anyway.

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A LOT of conflicting info regarding the T-72AMT...

http://www.janes.com/article/73097/u...nveils-t-72amt

claims 550 mm pen for the Kombat ATGM..

The T-72AMT has been adapted to fire the 125 mm Kombat (Combat) gun-fired laser-guided missile, which is capable of penetrating 550 mm of armour

..other sources say 750

the gunner has now also a night vision sight used to fire anti-tank guided missile able to penetrate 750 mm armor at the distance of 5 km.

https://www.army-technology.com/proj...n-battle-tank/

gives a top speed of only 60 kph

he T-72AMT tank is powered by a diesel engine developing a maximum power output of 840hp. The power-pack enables the vehicle to attain a maximum speed of 60km/h on road.
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I think it'll boil down to which missile we chose to give that tank or just use two slots for the AMT armed with KOMBAT & LUCH weapons. The night vision upgrade is also addressed in an "army recognition" video posted below.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...075B&FORM=VIRE

And to make things interesting we're going to supply them with JAVALINS and that made the national news in both print and media here.

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First photos of Thailand's new VT-4 MBTs:
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A LOT of conflicting info regarding the T-72AMT...

http://www.janes.com/article/73097/u...nveils-t-72amt

claims 550 mm pen for the Kombat ATGM..

The T-72AMT has been adapted to fire the 125 mm Kombat (Combat) gun-fired laser-guided missile, which is capable of penetrating 550 mm of armour

..other sources say 750

the gunner has now also a night vision sight used to fire anti-tank guided missile able to penetrate 750 mm armor at the distance of 5 km.

https://www.army-technology.com/proj...n-battle-tank/
I read the text in the first link (don't know if it has been updated since you wrote your post)
Quote:
...gun-fired laser-guided missile, which is capable of penetrating 550 mm of armour itself protected by explosive reactive armour (ERA).
that it is 550 mm after ERA and 750mm mentioned elsewhere is penetration without ERA. Sometimes I see numbers like that listed for USSR ammunition such as for PG-7VR:

http://www.military-today.com/firearms/rpg_7.htm
"PG-7VR is a 64/105-mm tandeam HEAT rocket. It has effective range of 100 m against tanks and 200 m against stationary targets. It penetrates up to 600 mm of armor behind ERA and 750 mm without ERA;"
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Ukraine is no longer using Russian ATGM tank launched weapons, they've already developed at least four different such weapons and are using their Russian versions for testing and research purposes. Will have to find what thread I posted all their current tank launched missiles in later. Not sure if it's in this thread or a somewhat more recent other thread, but, it so posted. And somewhat hurriedly answered in my last post. My time is up!

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