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Old September 27th, 2005, 04:15 AM

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Can anyone shed some light on this situation in a real life setting??? I have NEVER seen nor heard of a tank taking down a helo with its main gun, yet in this game it is a regular occurrance????
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Old September 27th, 2005, 04:40 AM
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Can anyone shed some light on this situation in a real life setting??? I have NEVER seen nor heard of a tank taking down a helo with its main gun, yet in this game it is a regular occurrance????
Against a very slow moving or hovering helo, it is not a large problem. Helo low is 50 or so feet, and high is really only 200-500 feet or so.

Keep helos moving so they get too difficult to track wit the main gun - if you hover, you are just a target waiting to be bisected by a 2000+ foot per second shell


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Old September 27th, 2005, 06:42 AM
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Israeli Merkava Mk4 and Mk3 BAZ are capable track even helicopters moving at high speed due to autotracker
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I have noticed this too. In my experience with a US vs China/NK campaign in the 90's, it seems to be the more modern Chinese MBT (type 98s and Type 85-II/IIIs) that try that trick. I haven noticed an anomoly though (And I don't know how to get a save game for this event): An AH-64D fires at a MBT 30-40 hexes with a Hellfire from a standing hover - a hidden MBT fires its main gun (1-3% hit chance by the yellow bar - First MBT is scorched by the Hellfire at 99% hit and brews up - AH-64D still has same number of Shots, esp. another hellfire, for the turn! It is like an extra shot if you survive.

Seems like a coding quirk or bug.

I move all my helos 20 or so hexes before the turns end, and that seems to cut down on main gun fire. And with the AH-64D - I hang them back due to their 60 VIsion
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Can anyone shed some light on this situation in a real life setting??? I have NEVER seen nor heard of a tank taking down a helo with its main gun, yet in this game it is a regular occurrance????
In the US Army we trained to engage helo's BUT it was only to be done IF you or another tank in your unit were being engaged.
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One of my tanker friends used to talk about how the Snake Drivers (AH-1W)would get pissed when they were tracked by an M-1A1.
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Interesting. I've often wondered about that possibility. I guess even Helos need to keep their distance. I would guess that even a near miss could be disastrous for a copter...or would it?

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Thanks guys being an old fart like WB I never heard of such things happening but I guess in modern warfare things have gotten MUCH more complicated.
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Thanks guys being an old fart like WB I never heard of such things happening but I guess in modern warfare things have gotten MUCH more complicated.
During the Yom Kippur war, a Syrian helo was taken out by a direct hit of L7 HESH round from Centurion...

AFAIK during WWII even a Shturmovik was downed with a Tiger's 88.

While these cases being rather exceptions and shows of good luck, but modern fire control makes the task much easier IMO.
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Ah, you still haven't caught me, big Jim, (but you're getting closer!)
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