New PBW Game - Pairs [Archive]

Baron Grazic

July 27th, 2003, 09:06 AM

A game for a Pair of pre-arranged Empires to form team to conquer the Galaxy. Teams must sign up together. ie Team 1 are players 1 & 2.

Please select your Race Ship Set when uploading your Empire file.

First year of play will be 72 hours, after which time we will change to weekly turns - Up for discussion

Starting resources: 100,000 - Up for discussion
Starting planets: 1 or 3 - Up for discussion
Home planet value: Good - Up for discussion
Score display: Own
Technology level: Low
Racial points: 5000 - Up for discussion
Quadrant type: Spiral. FQM Galaxy - Up for discussion
Quadrant size: Medium - Up for discussion
Map - Made by external party.
Event frequency: Low - Up for discussion
Event severity: Catastrophic - Up for discussion
Technology cost: Medium - Up for discussion
Victory conditions: Last pair of team mates standing, or Last man standing.
Maximum units: Max
Maximum ships: Max
Computer players: None
Neutral empires: No
Other game settings: No Religous races.

To be decided by players:-
FQM Galaxy?
Colonise own Colony type only?
Number of Teams? (Minimum 4 Teams)
Must select 1 racial technology?
No Intelligence?
No Tech Trading?

[ July 28, 2003, 00:10: Message edited by: Baron Grazic ]

Master Belisarius

July 27th, 2003, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
A game for a Pair of pre-arranged Empires to form team to conquer the Galaxy. Teams must sign up together. ie Team 1 are players 1 & 2.

Please select your Race Ship Set when uploading your Empire file.

First year of play will be 72 hours, after which time we will change to weekly turns.

Starting resources: 100,000 - Up for discussion
Starting planets: 1 or 3 - Up for discussion
Home planet value: Good - Up for discussion
Score display: Own
Technology level: Low
Racial points: 5000 - Up for discussion
Quadrant type: Spiral. FQM Galaxy - Up for discussion
Quadrant size: Medium - Up for discussion
Map - Made by external party.
Event frequency: Low - Up for discussion
Event severity: Catastrophic - Up for discussion
Technology cost: Medium - Up for discussion
Victory conditions: Last pair of team mates standing, or Last man standing.
Maximum units: Max
Maximum ships: Max
Computer players: None
Neutral empires: No
Other game settings: No Religous races.

To be decided by players:-
FQM Galaxy?
Colonise own Colony type only?
Number of Teams? (Minimum 4 Teams)
Must select 1 racial technology?
No Intelligence?
No Tech Trading?I like the idea.
Weekly turns seems to me a long time.

DavidG

July 27th, 2003, 07:39 PM

If one of my other PBW games ends before this starts I'd been into this. Although I'd suggest 72 hour turns and a ban on treaties between non team members. (to stop 3 teams ganging up on one)

Baron Grazic

July 28th, 2003, 01:11 AM

Turn times can be discused too.
Perhpas a ban on any treaties above T&R?

Master Belisarius

July 28th, 2003, 03:09 AM

Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
Perhpas a ban on any treaties above T&R?Fine with me.
What about exchange techs, gifts and population between teams?? Think should be Banned too...

primitive

July 28th, 2003, 03:29 AM

Originally posted by Master Belisarius:
What about exchange techs, gifts and population between teams?? Think should be Banned too...Exchanging techs and gifts (supporting each other) are a major part of the fun beeing a team. As for colony tech and population, both players could be forced to take the same planet type and atmosphere.

BTW:
I would like to join if this don't start until mid August (and I can find a partner http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )

Baron Grazic

July 28th, 2003, 03:30 AM

If T&R treaty is the highest level 'between' other teams, then it seems only common sense that they wouldn't trade technology, planets, etc.

1 team so far. Team OZ, consisting of Baron Grazic and Princess Xanthea.

Grab yourself a partner & sign up, MB. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

For someone as worthy as you Primative... No, because I would like to win the game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif
I haven't set a start date yet, so grab yourself a Partner (which won't bew hard for you) and sign up.

[ July 28, 2003, 02:35: Message edited by: Baron Grazic ]

Master Belisarius

July 29th, 2003, 04:24 AM

Originally posted by primitive:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Master Belisarius:
What about exchange techs, gifts and population between teams?? Think should be Banned too...Exchanging techs and gifts (supporting each other) are a major part of the fun beeing a team. As for colony tech and population, both players could be forced to take the same planet type and atmosphere.

BTW:
I would like to join if this don't start until mid August (and I can find a partner http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )<hr /></blockquote>Sorry if the post was not clear (very usual to me!), but I was talking about exchange population/gifts/techs with enemy's teams, not with your parthner...

Master Belisarius

July 30th, 2003, 02:53 AM

I'll sign... and Thermo will be my partner.

Thermodyne

July 30th, 2003, 03:16 AM

OK team two is on the board http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Baron Grazic

July 30th, 2003, 04:04 AM

Welcome aboard. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
Now, who wishes to join as Team 3???

Geckomlis

July 30th, 2003, 05:51 AM

Sounds interesting. I will play if someone needs a partner.

Baron Grazic

July 30th, 2003, 07:14 AM

Team up with Primative, assuming everyone thinks Mid Aug is a good start time?

Thermodyne

July 30th, 2003, 03:51 PM

My two cents worth.

Anyone got change foe a twenty?

3 good starting planets
Score display:- set to allies
Racial points-2000 or 3000 makes racial tech less atractive.
Event frequency-none
Event severity-none
Allow Intelligence
Colonise everything in sight
No trading or gifting, or all allowed between team members
No treaties between teams. Make it a stand up fight between individual teams.

Turns should start out a litle faster I think, then slow as the turn work load grows.

Baron Grazic

August 1st, 2003, 02:13 AM

I like the idea of no treaties between teams (or NA max).
We will have a vote about the other conditions.
No events? I should be voting for this since in the Last game I hosted I lost an entire system when the Star blew, but I'm a sucker for disasters. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Someone want to join with Gecko for Team 3?

Baron Grazic

August 1st, 2003, 03:57 AM

Gecko - You willing to have Dinglehopper as a Partner?
He is a good player, but like me has mostly played non-gold.

Geckomlis

August 1st, 2003, 06:46 AM

Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
Gecko - You willing to have Dinglehopper as a Partner?
He is a good player, but like me has mostly played non-gold.Sounds like a fine idea to me.

Baron Grazic

August 1st, 2003, 06:53 AM

Gecko - If you sign up now, I'll manually add Dinglehopper as your team mate.

Looking for Team 4 now?

Geckomlis

August 1st, 2003, 07:42 AM

Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
[QB]Gecko - If you sign up now, I'll manually add Dinglehopper as your team mate.[QB]Done.

cybersol

August 7th, 2003, 02:36 AM

I'll play, but I need a partner. Any volunteers?

Baron Grazic

August 7th, 2003, 03:45 AM

Welcome aboard Cybersol.
Unless someone else joins first as your Partner, we will ask Primitive after he is back from his holidays in a week or two.

cybersol

August 7th, 2003, 07:03 PM

I always wanted a game partner with both rusty spear and pointed spear technology, so that will work for me if it works for him http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ August 07, 2003, 18:03: Message edited by: cybersol ]

Baron Grazic

August 18th, 2003, 01:55 AM

Primative - Do you want to sign up as Team 4 with Cybersol?

Are there any other teams who wish to join this game?

If PBW isn't up by this time next week, we will start this game via email.

Is there a map maker out there who would be willing to throw a map together for us? Tesco, Grandpa Kim?

[ August 18, 2003, 00:56: Message edited by: Baron Grazic ]

primitive

August 18th, 2003, 10:32 AM

Oups,
Forgotten all about this during the holidays http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
I would be honoured to partner Cybersol. Are the specs. for the game set yet, or are things still open for discussions ?

Parasite

August 18th, 2003, 05:24 PM

I would like to play in it. I have friend also, but he does not read the forums too often. I think his alias is "Matt Helm".

Baron Grazic

August 20th, 2003, 02:39 AM

Welcome aboard Primative, Parasite & Matt Helm. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

There is still time if any other teams wish to join...

Here is an update on the status and the details that still need to be discussed.

Team 1 - Baron Grazic & Princess Xanthea
Team 2 - Belisarius & Thermodyne
Team 3 - Gecko & Dinglehopper
Team 4 - Cybersol & Primitive
Team 5 - Parasite & Matt Helm

A game for a Pair of pre-arranged Empires to form a team to conquer the Galaxy. Teams must sign up together. ie Team 1 are players 1 & 2.

Please select your Race Ship Set when uploading your Empire file.

First year of play will be 72 hours, after which time we will change to 4 day turns, slowly increasing to weekly turns, as the game progresses. Notified delays will be allowed for, or your Partner can play your turn for you. In the case of many turns missed with no communication, that player will be kicked, and the partner can continue until a replacement can be found.

No communication except for Greetings, Warnings, Threats, NI, NA, & WAR is permitted between different teams. Strickly no Trade or Gifts permitted between teams.

Starting resources: 100,000 - Up for discussion
Starting planets: 3
Home planet value: Good
Score display: Own (I would have said Allied, but this gifts to much power to NA treaties)
Technology level: Low
Racial points: 5000 or 3000 - Up for discussion
Quadrant type: Spiral. FQM Galaxy - Up for discussion
Quadrant size: Medium - Up for discussion
Map - Made by external party.
Event frequency: None
Technology cost: Medium
Victory conditions: Last pair of team mates standing, or Last man standing.
Maximum units: Max
Maximum ships: Max
Computer players: None
Neutral empires: No
Other game settings: No Religous races.

To be decided by players:-
FQM Galaxy?
Colonise own Colony type only?
Number of Teams? (Max 8 Teams)
Must select 1 racial technology?

Edit - Events removed.

[ August 20, 2003, 04:07: Message edited by: Baron Grazic ]

Baron Grazic

August 20th, 2003, 02:52 AM

Does everyone wish to send me an email, so that I have your email addresses, incase we need to start via PBEmail.
You can find my email in my profile.

Geckomlis

August 20th, 2003, 03:00 AM

Can we change Event Severity = None? I have had some games ruined by events. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Thanks!

Baron Grazic

August 20th, 2003, 05:06 AM

3 People for No Events - Done.

narf poit chez BOOM

August 20th, 2003, 07:16 AM

had 2-3 systems suns go supernova in a game. small map, against ai. not all at once, but shortly. i rebuilt. but if it had been humans, i'd have probably lost.

Baron Grazic

August 20th, 2003, 07:42 AM

The Last game I hosted, I had lost a good system to a sun going nova. It hurts but ultimately adds to the game, of course if it was my Home System...

Geckomlis

August 20th, 2003, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
The Last game I hosted, I had lost a good system to a sun going nova. It hurts but ultimately adds to the game, of course if it was my Home System...Well, twice I have lost home systems. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Hey, that gives me an idea. How about a mod for a PBW game where all of the systems go nova eventually?! Kind of a doomsday scenario…

[ August 20, 2003, 06:58: Message edited by: geckomlis ]

primitive

August 20th, 2003, 08:25 PM

Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
Does everyone wish to send me an email, so that I have your email addresses, incase we need to start via PBEmail.
You can find my email in my profile.I must be blind on both eyes, cause I can't find it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

geoschmo

August 20th, 2003, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by geckomlis:
[QUOTE]Hey, that gives me an idea. How about a mod for a PBW game where all of the systems go nova eventually?! Kind of a doomsday scenario…It's been done. Furball 2. That's not to say it couldn't be done again. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Baron Grazic

August 21st, 2003, 01:56 AM

5 Teams now entered on PBW.
The game will start next Monday (Tuesday Oz time)
If I can't find an unbiased person to create a map, I'll create one and select 'Ancient Race' unless someone objects to this.
Better send your thoughts an options you wish the game to run under.

Last chance for any more teams...

Master Belisarius

August 21st, 2003, 02:28 AM

Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
5 Teams now entered on PBW.
The game will start next Monday (Tuesday Oz time)
If I can't find an unbiased person to create a map, I'll create one and select 'Ancient Race' unless someone objects to this.
Better send your thoughts an options you wish the game to run under.

Last chance for any more teams...Sound fair to me...
Still we need to decide some important things:
Quadrant size, Racial Points, etc.
I go for FQM, Large, 3000 Racial Points (2000 would be better for me!).

narf poit chez BOOM

August 21st, 2003, 04:23 AM

1 sun going nova every turn; 30 turn delay
1 sun going nova every turn; 15 turn delay
1 sun going nova every turn; 7 turn delay
1 sun going nova every turn; 3 turn delay
1 sun going nova every turn; immediatly.
255 systems. how's that for a game?

primitive

August 21st, 2003, 04:05 PM

Some suggestions:
Both team members should have the same Atmosphere and Colony type.
Trade/Gifts: On, but only between team members.
Tech cost: High (if trading is on)
Intel: Off
Map: Anything is OK with me.

Baron Grazic

August 22nd, 2003, 04:10 AM

After totalling the Votes via email and the Forum.

Intell is ON.
Events are OFF.
3000 Racial Points.
FQM Spiral Galaxy. To be made by external party or me. Teams mates will start in same system.
No Religous Races!!!

Any thoughts on these settings?
Quadrant size? (My Vote - Medium)
Tech Cost? (My Vote - Medium)
Starting Resources? (My Vote - 100,000)
Races must have same Atmosphere and Colony type? (My Vote - No)
Colonise own Colony type only? (My Vote - ?)

Does anyone want to make this Rating game for those players who are a member of the PBW Rating System?

Geckomlis

August 22nd, 2003, 04:41 AM

Originally posted by Baron Grazic:

Any thoughts on these settings??Quadrant size = Medium http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
Tech Cost = Medium http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
Starting Resources = 100,000 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
Races must have same Atmosphere and Colony type? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
Colonise own Colony type only? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
Does anyone want to make this Rating game for those players who are a member of the PBW Rating System? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Baron Grazic

August 22nd, 2003, 04:53 AM

Pairs will be a "PBW System Rating" game.
This will not effect the game in any way for people who are not PBW System Rating members.
If the winning team are both members, then they have to choose who the ultimate winner is.
Check out the following topic for details of the "PBW System Rating"
http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=009770

Parasite

August 22nd, 2003, 06:43 PM

Guess you will have to kick my 5000pt no intel race I uploaded. I thought "Upload your race now" meant upload your race now. Our team is Last to sign up (so far), so I can be added back in still on the same team.

tesco samoa

August 22nd, 2003, 08:28 PM

hmm i have been watching this one for a while...

Does anyone wish to partner with me and we can become the sixth team....

Baron Grazic

August 23rd, 2003, 02:39 AM

Game settings are finilised.
If anyone else wishes to partner Tesco, now is the time.
We will be starting on Monday, US time. Tuesday my time.

A game for a Pair of pre-arranged Empires to form a team to conquer the Galaxy. Teams must sign up together. ie Team 1 are players 1 & 2.

Please select your Race Ship Set when uploading your Empire file.

First year of play will be 72 hours, after which time we will change to 4 day turns, slowly increasing to weekly turns, as the game progresses. Notified delays will be allowed for, or your Partner can play your turn for you. In the case of many turns missed with no communication, that player will be kicked, and the partner can continue until a replacement can be found.

No communication except for Greetings, Warnings, Threats, NI, NA, & WAR is permitted between different teams. Strickly no Trade or Gifts permitted between teams.

Starting resources: 100,000
Starting planets: 3
Home planet value: 1 Huge & 2 Medium Planets.
Score display: Own
Technology level: Low
Racial points: 3000
Quadrant type: FQM Spiral Galaxy
Quadrant size: Medium/Large
Event frequency: None
Technology cost: Medium
Victory conditions: Last pair of team mates standing, or Last man standing.
Maximum units: Max
Maximum ships: Max
Computer players: None
Neutral empires: No
Other game settings:
No Religous races!!!
No trade or treaties between teams.
Within the team anything goes.
Can only Surrender to team mate if nearing death, but no-one else.

Asmala

August 23rd, 2003, 08:36 AM

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
hmm i have been watching this one for a while...

Does anyone wish to partner with me and we can become the sixth team....I could partner with you if you want.

Baron Grazic

August 23rd, 2003, 02:12 PM

Tesco & Asmala in team 6.
Dam, I'd better start the game before you guys sign up. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
Hop to it...

tesco samoa

August 23rd, 2003, 03:59 PM

that would be great. Thank you

Asmala

August 24th, 2003, 09:57 AM

Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
Races must have same Atmosphere and Colony type?We haven't took this, right?

Hey this will be my first rated game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Baron Grazic

August 25th, 2003, 12:39 AM

Anything goes in atmosphere and type.
So far, 5 people have selected this game to be a rating game. I would have expected a few more, but you never know...

I have now created a map for us to play in. Random generated FQM map. All I have done, is selected 1 Huge Home World for each empire, so that the team members start in the same system. The other 2 Home World will be system generated, either in the same system, or near it.

Good luck to all.

Edit - 5 people not 3 as a rating game.

[ August 25, 2003, 01:19: Message edited by: Baron Grazic ]

Baron Grazic

August 27th, 2003, 01:28 AM

Game Started - Good luck all.

Slynky

August 27th, 2003, 01:41 AM

Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
Game Started - Good luck all.With all those people playing for Ratings, I'd sure hate to be the loser..... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Baron Grazic

January 28th, 2004, 11:08 PM

We are looking for 1 replacement player in this team game, who had to drop out for personal reasons. You would be teamed up with Gecko against 5 other teams.
Post here if you are interested.

Baron Grazic

January 29th, 2004, 01:42 AM

Sorry I should have said that we are only up to Turn 43.

tesco samoa

January 29th, 2004, 01:58 AM

if gecko has the password it does not bother me if he plays both empires while looking for a replacement

Paul1980au

January 29th, 2004, 03:02 AM

I might have been interested but cant get PBW.cc to work.

narf poit chez BOOM

January 29th, 2004, 04:20 AM

did you type seiv.pbw.cc? i've gotten it wrong and used www before.

Baron Grazic

January 29th, 2004, 04:54 AM

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
if gecko has the password it does not bother me if he plays both empires while looking for a replacement Gecko and myself have already discussed him doing the turns until a replacement can be found.

Originally posted by Paul1980au:
I might have been interested but cant get PBW.cc to work. Yep, as narf suggested try http://seiv.pbw.cc
If you want more details before joining the empire, send Gecko a PM.

The game is currently on 3.5 days per turn, and has some big names in it, as well as some relative newbies.

Grandpa Kim

January 29th, 2004, 05:33 AM

Or try the text Version:

http://seiv.pbw.cc/text/

Baron Grazic

January 31st, 2004, 12:06 PM

There must be someone out there who wants to jump right into a PBW 'team' game.
Perhaps Gecko will give enough details of their team status without giving anything away. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Geckomlis

January 31st, 2004, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
There must be someone out there who wants to jump right into a PBW 'team' game.
Perhaps Gecko will give enough details of their team status without giving anything away. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif We have lost about 200 ships or so and a handful of systems, mostly to Asmala. I would say we are definitely falling towards underdog status at this point. In addition, we have experienced some major .emp deficiencies. To compensate, we were about to reach into our bag of �dirty� tricks. Do you believe in �forlorn hopes�. Then you are the partner for me.

Actually, things are so bad that I might surrender to my partner to fix the .emp problems and consolidate what we have left. This, of course, we would mean a loss for me in terms of the Ratings, but it might keep the game viable for my team.

Master Belisarius

January 31st, 2004, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by Geckomlis:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
There must be someone out there who wants to jump right into a PBW 'team' game.
Perhaps Gecko will give enough details of their team status without giving anything away. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Actually, things are so bad that I might surrender to my partner to fix the .emp problems and consolidate what we have left. This, of course, we would mean a loss for me in terms of the Ratings, but it might keep the game viable for my team. <hr /></blockquote>If you two are really so bad and nobody wants to take over the empire of your partner, think you should surrender to your partner (and lose those Raitings http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif ) and take control over the new empire.

Baron Grazic

February 1st, 2004, 11:01 PM

Originally posted by Master Belisarius:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Geckomlis:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
There must be someone out there who wants to jump right into a PBW 'team' game.
Perhaps Gecko will give enough details of their team status without giving anything away. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Actually, things are so bad that I might surrender to my partner to fix the .emp problems and consolidate what we have left. This, of course, we would mean a loss for me in terms of the Ratings, but it might keep the game viable for my team. <hr /></blockquote>If you two are really so bad and nobody wants to take over the empire of your partner, think you should surrender to your partner (and lose those Raitings http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif ) and take control over the new empire. <hr /></blockquote>Gecko has done exactly what you suggested, a couple of days too early since WarDad has just asked to join the game, but never mind. We will keep WarDad's name handy incase we need another replacement. Thanks WarDad.

Baron Grazic

February 24th, 2004, 02:30 AM

With the departure of Geckomlis, we are looking for a replacement for his empire.

I do not know this empire in the game, so I don't know what state the empire is in, but since one team member surrendered to this empire, you would be effectively controlling this entire team.

I believe that 2 teams have met Gecko's Empire and that their has been some fighting. From information from one of his enemies, this empire is not a death's door just yet.

But to be honest, if you sign up, you could be looking at a world of hurt, but the action will be fast. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif