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Atrocities
August 28th, 2003, 03:21 PM
I am a bit nestalgic and often have a hard time moving past things. Case in point, back in 98 I bought a game called Tribes. I did not have high expectations for this game as it was the first all Multiplayer game ever released. I played it a bit and found that I was no good at it. I hated it in fact. A month later I came home early from work, and could not sleep so I logged onto tribes and started playing. Twelve hours later I realized I was hooked. The game was just so damn fun and addicitve.

Later I discovered the mods, Renegades and then Shifter. Oh how I loved shifter. A bunch of my good friends also bought the game and we formed our own clan named PCP (Population Control Police).

We played this game like no other game before, we were the best of the best of the best and enjoyed it. On any given day during the high life of the game, you could not find a server to log onto unless you were an elite player. We made maps, many maps, skins, and voice packs.

Tribes had so much to offer in the way of game play that all other mp games just pailed in comparission.

This game was going strong until Dynamix, a division of Sierra released Tribes 2. The community immedately split and what was was no more.

I could loose myself in tribes for literally days. I would play 24 hours or more at a time. The game was simply the best all time game that I have ever played before or since.

Tribes will always be my favorite game.

This morning I logged onto Tribes for the first time in over a year and played. I had the feeling of being the Last soldier standing on the battle field after a battle as I gazed out acrossed the game landscape and remembered all of the great games I had had on this particular map. Once so busy with players, now empty.. It was a lonely empty feeling that depressed me horribly.

Eventually I was joined by a player and we tangoed for over 45 minutes. He'd kill me and I'd kill him. I even made a few of my patended moving kill shots with my old favorite the Rail gun. Oh how I loved that gun.

After playing for a while I released how much I truely loved this game. I had stopped playing it because of all the cheaters and hackers. I was an elite player and even at my skill level I found it hard to play a game without becoming angry at those who employeed cheats. (Simular to the ones used in HL and CS)

Now a days I am the only one left of my large circle of former friends who played. I can get one other guy to play, but his ISP is very limiting.

I am proud of the fact that I was considered one of the best players of all time. On the tracking sites, out of over 75k players listed I was listed in the top 25 with a high of 3 and an average ranking of 10th.

What hurts the most is knowning that was will neve be again. That I had something wonderful and it went away forever. Sure the game is still around, but it is dying off and all of the old players no longer play.

The feeling that I am left with is one that can only be described as pale lonelyness. I wish you all could understand the power this game held for me and others. SEIV is a wonderful game and is ranked Number 2 on my list, with a wonderful community, and a solid fan base. But Tribes held something far more for me. I was, for a brief time, something that I had always wanted to be, but will never be again, engrossed in something larger than me, more powerful, and inspiring. I was amoung the Elites players and proud of it.

The feelings of accomplishment, of being important, of being good at something, special, inspired, wanted, of being a team player are all gone.

Tribes filled a void in my on line gaming life and now it is gone. And I do so horribly miss it so.

SEIV, although fun, could never be what tribes was to me. When SEIV has passed into oblivion, and this forum is no more, I will look back upon this time I have spent here, the things I have done for the game, and the people of this forum and miss it as badly as I miss tribes.

[ August 28, 2003, 14:25: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

geoschmo
August 28th, 2003, 03:35 PM
So what is Tribes anyway?

Atrocities
August 28th, 2003, 03:51 PM
If you have to ask, then it is too late. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Wydraz
August 28th, 2003, 05:53 PM
Forget nostalgia, and move past it! Everyone else has. Find out what your friends who used to play Tribes are playing now. Nothing Lasts forever. Go with the flow, and get into new and better things! You hated Tribes at first, so you'll probably hate everything else, but in time you'll find something better, just as everyone else has.

Atrocities
August 28th, 2003, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by Wydraz:
Forget nostalgia, and move past it! Everyone else has. Find out what your friends who used to play Tribes are playing now. Nothing Lasts forever. Go with the flow, and get into new and better things! You hated Tribes at first, so you'll probably hate everything else, but in time you'll find something better, just as everyone else has.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks, but I think you missed my point.

Lately games that have come out are lacking the very qualities that made their predecessors so popular. Moo3, SimCity 4, Civ3, and Unreal 2 for examples.

I never played SEIII, so for me SEIV was a new game.

Unfortunetly, a few of the poeple that I used to play tribes with are dead now, and those who are still around, don't do much of anything on line any more.

What I was trying to convy was the emotion the game brought out. The feeling that I had once experienced while playing. For me that time has passed, and I do miss it. Much like one would miss an old friend. You see, the game is really all I have left to help me remember my fallen friends.

Sarcasim aside, I do understand your point about it being time to move on, I have, but such is real life, we do miss the good times, and that I hope I never move past.

EvilGenius4ABetterTomorro
August 28th, 2003, 06:26 PM
Tunnels & Trolls on my TI-99/4a. I'm sure it still works but can't find the right kind of coal to power it. Simple and unpredictable....And so was the game. It was one of the first computer roll playing games I ever played. I had fun playing it and that's how I judge other games now. When I play a game now I ask myself "Am I having fun, or is this just another job"

SE4=fun
moo3=job

Cirvol
August 28th, 2003, 08:31 PM
have you tried eve Online atrocities?;p

me and deadmeat have, its pretty cool...
needs some work, but its just so damn beautiful

if you play in 'altered states' ever, its really fun

Puke
August 28th, 2003, 09:04 PM
The mans right, you young pups might not follow him, though.. Its not about the game, its about the experience playing. It could be anything, any group of people, any team or community. Any sport, martial art, race team, motorcycle club, or group of bar-flys.

I went into my favorite corner store about a year ago. I hadn't been there in about a year, since then. It was owned by this Italian family, they always a broad selection from many cases of wine, and this little deli where a little old lady that all the regulars called "mom" would make the best sandwiches you ever had. fresh sliced meat, sharp cheese, and a lot to choose from. When I showed up Last year, it had a new owner. He had pulled out the deli and only sold cheap wine. He told me there were some packaged sandwiches in the fridge, next to the bottled juice. It wasnt the same.

I remember walking in empty places where my friends and I used to congrigate, where I could find people on any given night to cause trouble with. I remember going back to old bars and finding all the regulars gone, and the grizzly old bartender replaced with some young girl with great tits, but that couldnt pour a drink to save her life.

some things do change forever, but you have to make new memories as you move on -- knowing that in time, those too will fade. all things die, its a part of living. you can keep a part of it alive as long as you carry it with you, and as long as you remember, theres a good chance that someone else does too. but things are never the same.

narf poit chez BOOM
August 29th, 2003, 02:52 AM
i almost miss tribes. and i never liked that game much.

mac5732
August 29th, 2003, 03:47 AM
Terrible Swift Sword by SPI, Board Game on Gettysburg, Since computers very very little time to play board games anymore. This game was IMHO the best civil war game ever made...

just some ideas Mac

Gryphin
August 29th, 2003, 04:27 AM
Wydraz um, it was nostalgia that brought me back to Empire Deluxe. Almost Ironic in light of your post.

As it is, I long for the days of Armored Miniatures (1/285). Still I admit I could never go back to them. I doubt I could find my old friends there. I remember the human interaction, the laughter around the table, Having dinner, Drinking beer (before there were micro brews aavailable). The zingers that would fly, The reparte, The comraderie. I almost established it here in the old Gryphin Growltiagga thread. It is not the same.

:: Lifts a bottle of Michilobe in salute ::
In the name of my old alias, "Ka ta din" Here's to the olde days. Peace my friends. Long may you live, May your victories be often and sweet.

[ August 29, 2003, 03:28: Message edited by: Gryphin ]

Wydraz
August 29th, 2003, 04:38 AM
Interesting replies. I don't mean to knock nostalgia per se, but when a game dies, there is no need to mourn too much. I came to SEIV because I was missing games like Star Control and the original MOO (I won't touch MOO3).

I guess you could say it was because of nostalgia. But I'm not going back to the old games. Compared to today's games, they begin to pale. But the feelings and wonder of discovery was what it was all about for me. So I'm not disagreeing, I'm just saying that new things can often be better than old, if you keep an open mind. Take Starfury, for instance. I can't wait!

ZeroAdunn
August 29th, 2003, 06:25 AM
I miss SEIV... and it is still around and kicking, how sad...

Atrocities
August 29th, 2003, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by ZeroAdunn:
I miss SEIV... and it is still around and kicking, how sad...<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ya, they don't make games like that any more. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Taera
August 29th, 2003, 10:25 AM
i miss Battlezone. single and multi player. Still the best, for me.
i miss the thrill i had playing doom 2.
i miss the long hours i spent playing SE3, there's no that addictivity in SE4 for me.
i miss civ2, the original one.

there are a lot of games i miss, old games. modern games... they're made to be sold and eye-candy, and do fit in timelines and budgets, plus the monopolies of the gaming world.

Lord_Shleepy
August 30th, 2003, 01:56 AM
Commander Keen...X-Com:Terror from the Deep...the original Oregon Trail...Prince of Persia...Pac Man...Biomenace...Outlaws...Artillery...Centipede. ..Digger...Hang-Man

Do not miss playing Zork. Stupid guess which synonym to type crap...rage...

QuarianRex
August 30th, 2003, 02:17 AM
I miss Armored Core, the original on playstation. A bunch of us would sit around the tube trying to blow the bejeezus out of each other. Constantly trying to re-engineer the mech to better be able to dodge missiles or to be able to squeeze on two grenade launchers at the same time without slowing to a crawl.

Some of the most fun games were the ones with self-imposed limitations like the melee games, or the all rocket games (few things were more satisfying than pasting a buddy in the mellon from across the map with an unguided rocket and claiming that it was due purely to skill http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif ).

The gasps of astonishment and sheer joy of dodging to the edge of the bLast radius of a grenade launcher, taking a mere ten damage of what would have otherwise been an armor shredding death to my stripped down chassis with a laser strapped to the arm.

Ahh... but I ramble.

I miss the laughter, the competition, the sharpening of our collective reflexes. Ahh, the joy.

deccan
August 30th, 2003, 07:50 AM
Originally posted by Lord_Shleepy:
...X-Com:Terror from the Deep...<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Why this instead of Enemy Unknown? Terror from the Deep was just a rehash of the original.

narf poit chez BOOM
August 30th, 2003, 08:15 AM
i miss test drive for the a500. even though i still have it, it's one of the games that won't tranfer over, for some mysterious reason - not non-standard.

i can still play it on the amiga, but i'm kinda afraid to...that the graphics'll be to bad, relativily. i could do the entire thing without one cracked windshield. in the one that was good on turns. lexus, i think. could hardly get the ferrari to turn and the lambrougini was worse.

Raging Deadstar
August 30th, 2003, 08:40 AM
I'll be honest the only game i miss playing is the demo of seII. I can remember the time i installed that, and went on a 48 hour playing binge lol. Many sleepless nights because of that game! To use Quarian Rex's quote:

"I just defeated the galaxy on easy mode, with only 4 AI players, I outnumbered their ships 3 to 1. I'm so skillfull!!!!" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

But seriously i still dust down the cd from time to time and play it for a few days. The one thing that annoyed me was i never got the hang of tactical combat that much http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

cybersol
August 30th, 2003, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by Atrocities:
I could loose myself in tribes for literally days. I would play 24 hours or more at a time. The game was simply the best all time game that I have ever played before or since.

Tribes will always be my favorite game.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I totally understand the tribes addiction. I never got it, but in grad school, I had a roommate who was the strategist/leader for one of the top three clans in tribes. He was consumed by it, they had a team practice or a game almost every day, Lasting 4 hours a day or more. Neal was his name, but I don't remember the clan name http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif I played a little, and though the 4ms ping was nice my old computer at the time just couln't keep up.

Its amazing you can go from a twitch of the finger type game to a slow methodical game like SEIV, Atrocities. I always find the former interesting, but they don't hold my attention like the latter.

As for my own nostalgia, amoung computer games I miss my first few the most. Reach for the Stars (the original) I still play sometimes on the Apple II GS when I am home for christmas (that is where the II GS is). It was a spreadsheet but it was fun and it started the 4X experience for me. Oh, and I was way into cyberpunk around this time. A game called Nueromancer for the IIGS was the best adventure game and the best cyberpunk rendition I have seen. Even though noone ever heard of it.

And my first wargame and multiplayer game was the original Empire at a local bookstore after hours in CGA 4 colors: black, white, baby blue, and hot pink http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ August 30, 2003, 10:17: Message edited by: cybersol ]

Gryphin
August 30th, 2003, 02:11 PM
I miss SE III on purly nostagic reasons. I was playing 20 hours a week when she divorced me.
(a symptom not the cause )

Atrocities
August 30th, 2003, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by Gryphin:
I miss SE III on purly nostagic reasons. I was playing 20 hours a week when she divorced me.
(a symptom not the cause )<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not to offend you, but you do realize that is a sympton of Space Empires Addiction do you not?

The first stages of the addiction are:

1. Obssive behavior often associated with the phase, "Just one more turn."
2. You begin to miss work because you stayed up all night long playing Space Empires.
3. Your partner leaves you because you spend all of your time playing Space Empires.
4. Rapid weight gain.
5. Lack of desire to bath
6. Sleeping at your computer desk.
7. Forum addiction.
8. Days will pass by and you will still think is is sunday when in fact it is Friday.
9. Nothing begins to matter except beating the Eee.
10. You burn up your mouse, and must buy a new one.

Later stages of the addiction are most powerful and best discussed later.

Geckomlis
August 30th, 2003, 02:58 PM
Romance of the Three Kingdoms.
http://www.classicgaming.com/reviews/nes/rtk.htm
I did not know the game was based on a book:
http://www.threekingdoms.com/

I actually got the book (in translation) via inter-library loan this week. It is really quite good. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I could not have been older than 16 when I first played ROTK... I feel old.

Atrocities
August 30th, 2003, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by cybersol:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Atrocities:
I could loose myself in tribes for literally days. I would play 24 hours or more at a time. The game was simply the best all time game that I have ever played before or since.

Tribes will always be my favorite game.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I totally understand the tribes addiction. I never got it, but in grad school, I had a roommate who was the strategist/leader for one of the top three clans in tribes. He was consumed by it, they had a team practice or a game almost every day, Lasting 4 hours a day or more. Neal was his name, but I don't remember the clan name http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif I played a little, and though the 4ms ping was nice my old computer at the time just couln't keep up.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif There were so many. EDEN, ***, LOD, PCP, DOW, KIN, etc.

I forget most of what the clan tag names stood for. But EDEN and *** (Assassins Secret Society) were among the best of the best IIRC.

As Nueromancer, I had a friend who played it. He loved it. I even recall him calling into work sick so he could go to Incredible Universe and buy a help guide on the game. LOL. Like non of us have ever done that before. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

oleg
August 30th, 2003, 03:09 PM
I miss mom, Mom, MOm, MOM mOM moM mom !!!

The best game ever. Well, AI sucks big time and the idea of "game balance" is anathema , but still, it it was a marvelious game.

Gryphin
August 30th, 2003, 04:21 PM
Atrocities
No offence taken, < gryns >

The following apply:

1. Obssive behavior often associated with the phase, "Just one more turn." - Yes, big time

3. Your partner leaves you because you spend all of your time playing Space Empires. - Yeppers
4. Rapid weight gain. - Almost
5. Lack of desire to bath - For 2 days at most after that the ichyness interupts my train of thoughts
10. You burn up your mouse, and must buy a new one. - Wore out the springs 2 Kensington Track Balls in less than 5 years (which they replaced for free)

11) Has a list of Priortys and playing SE IV is at or near the top.

12) Warned all potential girlfriends of my addiction and made it clear where they stood in priortyes.

Cheeze
August 30th, 2003, 06:25 PM
I used to love playing Tribes. I found the game annoying because I couldn't figure out how to play. Then I discovered the Storm voice pack, and everything changed. I would spend more time trying to figure out which South Park/Simpsons/Wrestling quote to fire off with my next death, or the unoccasional successful kill. That alone made the game worth playing. I eagerly bought Tribes 2 and still don't understand what people hate about it, except that the voice packs didn't work. Why they would make that change mystifies me. It's not as much fun unless I can scream "Screw you, hippie!" as I get blown to pieces by a mortar, sniped from some mountain, etc.

I pretty much stunk to high heavens at it but it was fun all the same. Few things will match nailing some ultra-good player (judging by all the silly letters attached at the front of his handle) with a mine or, in my few shining moments, a shocklance. My connection has never been terribly good or fast, so I was generally outmanuevered and outskilled. Unless I played one of those ridiculous over-hyper games, when the railgun fired like a machine gun. I would laugh watching a piece of Tribes landscape go up like it was hit by a cluster bomb, or see death coming my way, swift and certain.

I miss Doom 2. I played that game pretty steadily, and had a laptop. I would be at some laundromat and people would be wondering what was happening on my computer, with all the gunfire and demonic screams. Best moment was, while playing at around 4:30am (through the night of course), I was racing forward and suddenly heard some god-awful pig squeal noise. I don't know how I went from running forward to running back, but that sound completely freaked me out I had to stop playing for a few minutes. That was my first encounter with an arch-vile (I think!), and that was great! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

JLS
August 30th, 2003, 08:35 PM
Commodore 64:
Carriers at war
Gettysburg
Romancing the Kingdoms
IMPERIUM GALACTICA

Amiga:
Earl Weaver Baseball

Windows:
Alpha Centuri
Waterloo

All multiplayer and played with great friends, this I now miss

dogscoff
September 1st, 2003, 05:45 PM
After reading this thread I miss tribes, and I never even played it.

Seriously...

Those late-night, lights-out, slightly beered-up face-too-close-to-the-screen sessions of llamatron 2112 on the Amiga will always have a special place on my scarred and abused retinas.

Oh, and playing "Alien Breed" with my bestest buddy back in my teenage days, crapping our pants as we ran for the decklift while the self-destruct countdown ticked on, lost and panicked and mobbed by a horde of giger-esque 16-bit beasties...

narf poit chez BOOM
September 1st, 2003, 07:16 PM
llamatron...the robot was nice. kept me alive nearly twice as long.

Atrocities
September 1st, 2003, 08:07 PM
I just played a game that I bought about a year ago. Star Wars Galactic Battle Grounds. Now this game is not that old, yet the game play and graphics are horribly, and I do mean horribly, out dated. They look absolutely horrendous. I had to check the game to be sure it was a true Lucas Arts game, and sure enough it was. WTF happened! Did Lucas Arts just decide to take a gaint leap backwards in technology? My god!!! This game sucks so bad that it makes MOO3 look like a My Sims champion of the year.

The laser beams look so fricking hooky that I nearly fell out of my chair in discust! What an absolute horrible excuse for a POS antiquited game! I guess Lucas has poored off into more than one area of his Star Wars empire.

A bad leader is a bad leader. Time to fire Lucas and higher in some talent!

Not since MOO3 have I been so utterly and completely disappoined in a game. All they did was take AOE (ONE) and swap out graphics. Dated graphics no less. Here is a game that could have rocked, especially after their first attempt at it was a failed POS, and they drop the ball again. Hell Empire Earth set the sandard, and Lucas Arts fell far far far far far below it with this game.

It is like going from a computer game of today back in time to the day of the old Atari 2600 games. That is how bad this game is. I thought Civ 3 was a bad game, boy I had no clue.

If you have not bought Galatic Battle Grounds yet, DON'T! not even on the budge rack. Wait to pick it up at a garage sale for 50 cents. Hell that is all that I will get for this POS crap fest game of all time. What a hunk of utter bantha fodder!

If I could take this game and give it back to Lucas Arts, it would be in a billion peaces with a note attacked explaining where they can put the peaces. What a horrible and nasty trick to play on the fans. Hell I though what Quick Silver did was bad, I had no concept that they had learned it from Lucas Arts.

On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being SEIV, SW GBG rates no higher than a 3. (Moo3 rated a 4.)

I can not believe that I spent the money to buy this game, and never played it. I feel cheated by it. I need a shower now. I will never buy another lucas arts product until long after it has gone to the junk discount bin, and then only if it has a favorable review from people like those who come here.

Atrocities
September 1st, 2003, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by Gryphin:
Atrocities
No offence taken, < gryns >

The following apply:

1. Obssive behavior often associated with the phase, "Just one more turn." - Yes, big time

3. Your partner leaves you because you spend all of your time playing Space Empires. - Yeppers
4. Rapid weight gain. - Almost
5. Lack of desire to bath - For 2 days at most after that the ichyness interupts my train of thoughts
10. You burn up your mouse, and must buy a new one. - Wore out the springs 2 Kensington Track Balls in less than 5 years (which they replaced for free)

11) Has a list of Priortys and playing SE IV is at or near the top.

12) Warned all potential girlfriends of my addiction and made it clear where they stood in priortyes.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">One of the more advanced stages of SEIV Addicition is the almost crack cocain like withdrawal syptoms you experience when PBW is down.

sachmo
September 2nd, 2003, 02:26 AM
Warsong for Sega Genesis
Battlefront for Commodore 64
Red Storm Rising for Commodore 64
Gunship for Commodore 64
Baseball Stars for Nintendo

narf poit chez BOOM
September 2nd, 2003, 06:27 AM
i spent a while today wandering around outdoors. on trails. it's fun. small trails. still fun. me monosyllabic. oops.

JLS
September 2nd, 2003, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by sachmo:
Warsong for Sega Genesis
Battlefront for Commodore 64
Red Storm Rising for Commodore 64
Gunship for Commodore 64
Baseball Stars for Nintendo<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Battlefront and Red Storm Rising are great games for the 64, sure I remember http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

geoschmo
September 2nd, 2003, 04:59 PM
I had Red Storm Rising for the PC. Great submarine game.

Atrocities
September 2nd, 2003, 05:05 PM
One of the best, most thrilling, spine tingling games that I have ever played was the Alien Vs Predator of the The Atari Jaguar. I am telling you that game stood hair on end in places that I did not think possible. I actually recorded myself playing it from star to finish on a VCR. I can remember when we had no clue as to what to do or where to go, and then you hear it, that unmistakeable purring sound of a predator. He is near by and you like hell to get away. The trip through the Alien mother ship was especially frightening. This game scared me more than any game since. I still get chills think about it.

Sim City 3 UL. This game has got to be one of the best of the series. IT was fun, easy, difficult, playable. Unlike SC4 that is not fun at all.

System Shock II. NOW THIS GAME, is a damned good example of excellent game making. It has a good story, excellent game play, awsome playability and so on. I especially enjoyed it, and just finished playing it again. Now on to DeusEX again.

BOTF. One of the most under appreciated games of all time. For a star trek game it had a lot to offer, but the lawsuites over the Civilization licenses torpedo Microprose and the game was never supported.

Rebellion by Lucas Arts was for all intents and pruposes the first game that I was ever addicted to. Back in 98 when it came out I would stay awayke after work for hour playing it. I loved the game and wish I could have found the fan base sooner than I did. The game had a horrendous learning curve, but once learned, it was a lot of fun to play. I do miss it so.

Doom. Nuff said.

Freespace I - An excellent game that really set the standard for space flight sims.

Zelda and the Legend of Zelda were two of Nintendo finest games. they don't make them like that any more.

DavidG
September 2nd, 2003, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by Atrocities:
System Shock II. NOW THIS GAME, is a damned good example of excellent game making. It has a good story, excellent game play, awsome playability and so on. I especially enjoyed it, and just finished playing it again. Now on to DeusEX again.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ditto! This game has the best music I've ever heard too since it is linked to the plot not just background crap. When you hear that erie music start up you know something bad is about to happen!

Ruatha
September 2nd, 2003, 10:26 PM
Ultima Underworld I & II, why did they have to have an end??

I don't miss Civ 2 as I still play it, but not as much as I play CivNet. (Both installed on my computer and I've played them in the beginning of this year)

Space fighters: X-wing (The original before Tie-fighter) and the two Freelancer games, goodies!

But apart from the Ultima Underworld games and Civ 1&2 there's really no old game I'd play again, (kind of a lie as I play old arcade games on the MAME emu...but thats something completely different!)

For the Last 6 months I haven't played any game except SEIV.
Will have to brush up on some other games as we're having a LAN weekend this autumn though;
Unreal tournament, Heroes of might and magic IV.

[ September 02, 2003, 21:28: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

Wardad
September 2nd, 2003, 10:41 PM
TROPICO

narf poit chez BOOM
September 2nd, 2003, 10:43 PM
what's MAME?

JLS
September 2nd, 2003, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by Ruatha:

Ultima Underworld I & II, why did they have to have an end??
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I know Ruatha, they were great, I have all the older Versions boxed away.

What was it - I thru IV was Commodore 64

Then V-VIII DOS or windows 3.1 a few were a little buggy as I recall.

Then Ultima IX Ascension for 95+

Ultima IV and Ultima IX was my favorite. However I never Finished V-VII
My son loves ultima IX Ascension.

I never have time to even try the On Line Version, besides once I am on, I will never get off, so I don’t dare

[ September 02, 2003, 21:50: Message edited by: JLS ]

JLS
September 2nd, 2003, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by Wardad:
TROPICO<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Paradise Isle I still play it (ALOT), great game.

Has anyone tried the Sierra series games of Caesar, Pharaoh, and the new one Emperor?

My wife and I play Emperor LAN when possible and it is fun. New upgrade has just been released and adds much more to multiplayer...

JLS
September 2nd, 2003, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by geoschmo:
I had Red Storm Rising for the PC. Great submarine game.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Right, Hunt for Red October was the C64 sub game

Red Storm Rising was in my opinion Tom Clancy best work. Is there a game Red Storm rising, this would be centered around a all out war with NATO versus USSR with Jack Ryon to the rescue

[ September 02, 2003, 22:16: Message edited by: JLS ]

Ruatha
September 3rd, 2003, 10:02 PM
MAME is Multi Arcade Machine Emulator, Currently emualates 4083 coin op games, I mostly play Space Duel.

Mame net (http://www.mame.net)

Mame DK has screenshots of all games (http://www.mame.dk/)

[ September 03, 2003, 21:04: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

openair
September 3rd, 2003, 11:01 PM
this thread got me thinking of some old games i used to love...

one game in perticular i used to play for hours on end has escaped my memory, i cannot for the life of me remember what it was called... i think it started with an 'F'... Farscape, Farlight, Freesomthing... i dunno...

it was a Sidescrolling shooter/adventure... takes place far into the future, i think the character escapes from jail at the beginning of the game...(Fugitive?) Very dark game, well for its time, enemies include aliens, living planets, and sercurity bots... had an energy pistol for a weapon... anyone know what im talking about?

PS: game was out around/b4 Doom1... 486/386 days...

[ September 03, 2003, 22:02: Message edited by: openair ]

dogscoff
September 4th, 2003, 09:36 AM
Paradroid on the C64. Now that game was just too good for words.

Ruatha
September 4th, 2003, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by openair:
this thread got me thinking of some old games i used to love...

one game in perticular i used to play for hours on end has escaped my memory, i cannot for the life of me remember what it was called... i think it started with an 'F'... Farscape, Farlight, Freesomthing... i dunno...

it was a Sidescrolling shooter/adventure... takes place far into the future, i think the character escapes from jail at the beginning of the game...(Fugitive?) Very dark game, well for its time, enemies include aliens, living planets, and sercurity bots... had an energy pistol for a weapon... anyone know what im talking about?

PS: game was out around/b4 Doom1... 486/386 days...<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Flashback

Screenshots (http://www.adventurecollective.com/reviews/flashback.htm)

[ September 04, 2003, 10:26: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

openair
September 4th, 2003, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by Ruatha:
Flashback<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Exaclty! Thank you!

[ September 04, 2003, 21:28: Message edited by: openair ]

Ack
September 5th, 2003, 12:36 AM
Tunnels & Trolls on my TI-99/4a.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think I still own this game. I transferred it to 3.5" from the original 5.25" about 10 years ago. I haven't tried playing it in about two years, but it worked fine on my old 486. The copy protection still requires that you own the manual though.

Shadarr
September 5th, 2003, 01:41 AM
The games I mostly feel nostalgic about were the first games of a type I played. I can remember playing Red Alert for almost an entire weekend, or staying up till well past midnight playing Romance of the Three Kingdoms on Genesis.

I still have those games, but I don't play them anymore because I've played other games in the same genres and gotten jaded. The novelty is gone, and the flaws are that much more apparent. But I still remember sending my team of 10 generals with intelligence 90+ into a province to turn it into the model of farming efficiency, and agonizing over whether to capture Lu Bu and try to keep him loyal (mostly through saving and reloading) or just execute him.

Lord_Shleepy
September 5th, 2003, 02:20 AM
Why this instead of Enemy Unknown? Terror from the Deep was just a rehash of the original. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not sure...maybe cuz someone gave it to me for free...or maybe because it was so much fun watching those fat, mostly naked islanders spin around in a circle and burst into meat. Just one of those games with charm...if not originality...or high techness. :-) Not to mention that the music was really catchy...der de der de der de der de der DE DERR!!! der de...

Muahaha!

mac5732
September 7th, 2003, 04:15 AM
Guadalcanal for the old Apple, and I think the name, but it was also for the apple, it was the invasion of Iceland, fought between Russians against the Nato allies... Don't have the game anymore but it was good

just some ideas Mac

Atrocities
September 7th, 2003, 04:41 AM
Dark Forces Jedi Night

I bought my first computer, a Acer P75 with an 850 meg HD and 4 megs of ram just to play this game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif And boy was it ever a great game.

Quake II - This game was a lot of fun too. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif The Last game to have co-op play. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[ September 07, 2003, 03:42: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

Taz-in-Space
September 7th, 2003, 05:47 AM
Narf asked:
"what's MAME?"

I think it stands for: Multi Arcade Machine Emulator.

You know those old Atari 2600 games and others from same time period.

Had lots of good games for the time...

mac5732
September 8th, 2003, 06:55 AM
River Raid for the atari, played it by the hour

mac

Alari
September 8th, 2003, 08:09 AM
I had to think about it for a while, but eventually I remembered: Sonic 2. Used to play it with a friend, in single-player mode. Normally in single player mode, Tails would just follow Sonic around and get killed a lot, but you could control Tails with the second controller (I don't think it was documented anywhere, I just tried it one day and it worked) This was spiff since Tails was essentially immortal, and you wouldn't lose rings or anything, except in the tunnel race thingy. Helped in Boss fights, and it was nice to play cooperatively. ^.^

Also miss every game of the Ultima series, tho Exult helps with Ultima 7 and U7 part 2. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif I'm an Ultima ****. ^.^; Waiting for a U8 emulator or fix. (Yes, I actually liked that one. =)

Whoever liked Paradroids: try this - http://www.javaonthebrain.com/java/noids/

I liked Tribes too but wasn't much good at it, tho thankfully didn't have too much trouble with cheaters. Of course now I want to go reinstall it after reading this thread. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

I miss mining in Jumpgate. =( Easing a heavy ship up next to a tasty 'roid and mining away, was very peaceful and relaxing. ( http://www.jossh.com )

Miss a lot of other games too, more than I can remember.

[ September 08, 2003, 07:13: Message edited by: Alari ]

Atrocities
September 8th, 2003, 08:34 AM
I kinda miss playing Bolders Gate and Freespace.

deccan
September 8th, 2003, 12:06 PM
Hey, anyone remember an old Microprose game called Hyperspeed / Lightspeed? Had you in control of a single person starship tasked with assembling the resources needed to establish a new colony world.

Loser
September 8th, 2003, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by deccan:
Hey, anyone remember an old Microprose game called Hyperspeed / Lightspeed? Had you in control of a single person starship tasked with assembling the resources needed to establish a new colony world.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think about that one every now and then.

I used to play Lightspeed a whole lot, and always wanted to pick up Hyperspeed.

As was my way with RPGs, I eventually just hexed my way to all the components I needed in the savegame and played through the 'story' part of the game as a sort of superpower. But it was still a lot of fun. I like to give those a shot again. I may still have the Lightspeed diskettes around here somewhere.

By the way, I just picked up MoO2 from the $9.99 rack and poked at a few games. Still fun, but rather restrictive after so much Space Empires IV.

narf poit chez BOOM
September 8th, 2003, 11:56 PM
thanks to the people who told me what MAME is.

Suicide Junkie
September 9th, 2003, 01:13 AM
The games I mostly feel nostalgic about were the first games of a type I played. I can remember playing Red Alert for almost an entire weekend...<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ah, yeah. That game is still fun. I play multiplayer coop with my brother mostly. Bit of modding done too, with really cheap infantry, rapid-firing pillboxes and long range flame towers to chew them up. Choppers with super-slow nuclear-tipped missiles are quite cool too. One hit takes 'em down, they're very expensive, and the missile takes forever to land http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Chronon
September 9th, 2003, 02:25 AM
Civ and Civ2, MoO and MoO2, SMAC and SMAX - those are the computer games that lost me the most sleep (can't do those 3am bedtimes anymore). SEIV has replaced them on my hard drive, and I'm really not tempted to play them anymore.

The games I really miss playing are all board games: Diplomacy, Third Reich, Advanced Civilization (Avalon Hill Version), Victory, and Rommel in the Desert. Nothing beats sitting down with some friends and playing a game for the day. Even SEIV can't compare (although sometimes it comes pretty close).

Ruatha
September 9th, 2003, 05:26 AM
Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
thanks to the people who told me what MAME is.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You're welcome, it's one of the best programs I know.

narf poit chez BOOM
September 9th, 2003, 07:11 AM
what's the legal situation on that stuff?

Puke
September 9th, 2003, 09:37 PM
you still go to hell for stealing, if thats your question.

conveniently, i dont believe in such things. And i have never broken a law that i agreed with, or thought applied to me, specifically.

regarding MAME and legality, some companies have released their games into the public domain, so they are legal to play. others are only legal to play only if you own the physical rom, license, or cartridge - but are so old that are generally classified as abandonware, which means that the copyright holder does not care enough to defend their property. yet other games are recent enough to be defended, or are the property of rather posessive companies that dont like being robbed, or plan on capitalizing on the retro-arcade market.

mame and other emulators also have the ability to emulate systems that are still on the market, and have new games being made for them. this is largely considered theft, of the kind that will do direct financial harm to a company. not like the kind of theft you can argue for in the music industry, that ends up increasing product awareness and leads to larger overall sales. but in either case, you are breaking the law and will surely eternally burn in eternal torment for all eternity. forever. yeah.

SO DONT STEAL GAMES, YOU FILTHY CUR!

but if you do, and you dont have the time / money / effort to rig up a real arcade console, a few companies make PS style gamepads for the PC with fully programmable buttons and dual analog sticks, which you can use to play such games as BATTLEZONE, that require dual stick action. of course, you really need a twisty joystick or a paddle (dial) if you want to play such games as DISCS OF TRON or HEAVY BARREL. might as well maximize that emersive arcade experience, while your burning in hell. forever. it wont require quarters to play, JUST YOUR SOUL!

narf poit chez BOOM
September 9th, 2003, 10:38 PM
ok...

so which ones are public domain, since i neither want a bad tan or criminal charges? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ September 09, 2003, 21:40: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

sachmo
September 9th, 2003, 11:49 PM
FWIW, right now I miss playing Hearts of Iron. But I'll get my fix when I get home... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Ruatha
September 15th, 2003, 03:18 AM
You can get the Hot Rod Joystick (http://www.hanaho.com/products/HotRodJoystick/) and get the Capcom roms legally:

1941 - Block Block - Commando - Exed Exes - Ghouls'n Ghosts Magic Sword - Mercs - Section Z - Side Arms - Son Son - Street fighter (Hhyper Fighting) - Strider - U.N. Squadron - Varth

Other than that the public domain roms are;
Gridlee (http://www.mame.dk/gameinfo/gridlee/)
Robby Roto (http://www.mame.dk/gameinfo/robby/)
Polyplay (http://www.mame.dk/gameinfo/polyplay/) Polyplay

[ September 15, 2003, 02:22: Message edited by: Ruatha ]