I Finally Did It

[CNCRaymond]

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif I made my first ship http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif


http://www.astmod.com/cnc.BMP http://www.astmod.com/cncm.BMP

It has taken me over a year, and now my vision is a reality. What do you think of it?

(Only phrase please, rejection will destroy my fragile ego.) j/k http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Grand Deceiver]

Very Nicely done!

[deccan]

Hmm, in the overhead view, it looks like the two weapon mounts are parallel, but they look pointed in different directions in the front. Otherwise, nicely done. Looks like a very mean ship.

[pathfinder]

Looks good http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[primitive]

Yummy

[narf poit chez BOOM]

nice

[XenoTheMorph]

Well done, I like it. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/icons/icon14.gif

Now how about all the others. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[minipol]

Very nice. Congrats! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

[Atrocities]

Ya its ok, ok start.

[Ed Kolis]

Cool ship http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Monolith]

Nice job, I may contact you for pointers when I try to do one. What did you do the model in?

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by Ed Kolis:
Cool ship http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Drat! He took the words right out of my "fingers". Anyway, very cool ship.

[Timstone]

Sweet dude!

[se5a]

Originally posted by Monolith:
Nice job, I may contact you for pointers when I try to do one. What did you do the model in? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">looks like doga

but yes, its a nice ship!
umnn what IS it though? a destoyer? cruiser? light carrier? WHAT!!

or is it just "a ship"

[Erax]

It looks like a light carrier to me. A very cool-looking light carrier.

[JLS]

Originally posted by CNCRaymond:
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif I made my first ship http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif


http://www.astmod.com/cnc.BMP http://www.astmod.com/cncm.BMP

It has taken me over a year, and now my vision is a reality. What do you think of it?

(Only phrase please, rejection will destroy my fragile ego.) j/k http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Real nice, I can't wait for the Set http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Great job!

[CNCRaymond]

I am happy that you all like it. I don't know what class it is now, nor do I know when I will have a "set" done. Time is very tight for me so things like this are not a top priority.

Have any of you ever sat down and figured out how much time you have spent on this game? I tried this the other day and was blown away by it. Just using an average of a half hour a day for 365 days a year for 3 years. It adds up. Nearly 23 days of my life have been dedicated to this game.

[PvK]

Looks nice!

[Grand Lord Vito]

Originally posted by CNCRaymond:
I am happy that you all like it. I don't know what class it is now, nor do I know when I will have a "set" done. Time is very tight for me so things like this are not a top priority.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Thanks for the flash they are beautiful.
Now you must go all the way or you are just a tease http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Monolith]

Originally posted by CNCRaymond:
I am happy that you all like it. I don't know what class it is now, nor do I know when I will have a "set" done. Time is very tight for me so things like this are not a top priority.

Have any of you ever sat down and figured out how much time you have spent on this game? I tried this the other day and was blown away by it. Just using an average of a half hour a day for 365 days a year for 3 years. It adds up. Nearly 23 days of my life have been dedicated to this game. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">We call that "quality time" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[CNCRaymond]

http://www.astmod.com/cnc/cruiser.BMP http://www.astmod.com/cnc/battleship.BMP

I am nearing completion of my first race. Here are two of the ships for the race.

The first one is a Cruiser (Animosity Class)
The second ship is a Battleship (Offender Class)

[Renegade 13]

Awesome ships there man. I'm looking forward to the full set.

Renegade

[Fyron]

What exactly is the point of the big gaping square hole in the front of some ships?

[tesco samoa]

perhaps a great place to stash some stuff http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[CNCRaymond]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
What exactly is the point of the big gaping square hole in the front of some ships? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Recessed Deflector Array (Duhhh) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Wardad]

Duhhh hahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaaaa

[Fyron]

Originally posted by CNCRaymond:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
What exactly is the point of the big gaping square hole in the front of some ships? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Recessed Deflector Array (Duhhh) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">So these are star trek universe ships then? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[CNCRaymond]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by CNCRaymond:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
What exactly is the point of the big gaping square hole in the front of some ships? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Recessed Deflector Array (Duhhh) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">So these are star trek universe ships then? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Do they look like they are from the Star Trek Universe? Frankly you can have them be from whatever you want them to be from. The opening could be a fighter bay, cargo port, space dust intake manafold, whatever the player wants it to be.

Wave Motion gun, gun port, viewing port, etc.

[CNCRaymond]

http://www.astmod.com/cnc/troop.BMP
Medium Troop

http://www.astmod.com/cnc/fighter.BMP
Medium Fighter

http://www.astmod.com/cnc/carrier.BMP
Carrier

http://www.astmod.com/cnc/ws.BMP
World Ship

[Fyron]

I see. It just tends to distort the continuity of the ship to have a simplistic box with a whole in it on the front. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif They are good ships otherwise.

Worldships are typically supposed to be more or less round, as they are mostly used for things like Death Stars, Battlemoons, and other giant spherical planet-like ships.

[ November 17, 2003, 20:34: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[CNCRaymond]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
I see. It just tends to distort the continuity of the ship to have a simplistic box with a whole in it on the front. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif They are good ships otherwise.

Worldships are typically supposed to be more or less round, as they are mostly used for things like Death Stars, Battlemoons, and other giant spherical planet-like ships. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I can add a round ship but why must all deathstars look alike?

[PvK]

More nice pictures!

Maybe the hole in the front is for scooping up dropped components and cargo in Starfury... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

I don't have any imagination problems with square recesses in front, or with non-round world ships.

Er, and actually, that world ship picture below looks relatively rounded to me already.

PvK

[ November 17, 2003, 21:10: Message edited by: PvK ]

[Fyron]

Originally posted by CNCRaymond:
I can add a round ship but why must all deathstars look alike? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Because then they are not deathstars... the whole concept of the world ship is a ship that looks like a world. Big, spherical. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Not just rounded... but spherical.

I don't have any imagination problems with square recesses in front, or with non-round world ships. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif It has nothing to do with "imagination problems".

[ November 17, 2003, 21:27: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[primitive]

Yummy

Nice looking ships there, but I got some comments on the world ship http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I like the fact its not beeing round (or spherical http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ), but looking like its been carved out of an astroide.
But it looks: Tiny http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

The bridge on top makes it look the size of a Caribian Cruiseship. Big enough for a week of holiday, but hardly something to be the scourge of the galaxy http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[CNCRaymond]

http://www.astmod.com/cnc/ws2.BMP
The Death Star World Ship. And I tried to make it round, but the program has limits. I will include it with the set, but I do not like it.

[CNCRaymond]

http://www.astmod.com/cnc/cruiser2.BMP

How does this look compared to the older Version?

http://www.astmod.com/cnc/cruiser.BMP

[Fyron]

Originally posted by CNCRaymond:
The Death Star World Ship. And I tried to make it round, but the program has limits. I will include it with the set, but I do not like it. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I never said it should look exactly like the Death Star... just more like a world than a big ship. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif And, I will have to second primitive's statement that your other worldship doesn't look very big... make it look a bit rounder and more like a massive ship (like not having a singular gigantic bridge sticking out on top or just two big guns/engines or whatever those things on the side are).

How does this look compared to the older Version?<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Better to me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Are these ships asymmetric http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif or is it just a trick of the angle http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif ?

[ November 17, 2003, 23:24: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[CNCRaymond]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

Are these ships asymmetric http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif or is it just a trick of the angle http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif ? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I do not understand your question. The angles might be effecting the intended appearance of the ships but again that is a limitation of the program used to create them

http://astmod.com/cnc/ws3.BMP

How is this one? Does it look bigger?

[primitive]

Much Better, but I think the "building" on top still could be smaller. Maybe it also could be worth a try to move the camera a bit down. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Fyron]

It looks like a 4 story building on top of the asteroid... if it were 4 stories on a world ship, it would be a mere dot with that sized image. Think small moon. Maybe it could look like a small city on top of that thing?

[CNCRaymond]

Thanks for the feed back you two. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Which of the two do you like the most?
http://www.astmod.com/cnc/ws4.BMP http://www.astmod.com/cnc/ws4a.BMP http://www.astmod.com/cnc/ws2a.BMP

[ November 18, 2003, 02:15: Message edited by: CNCRaymond ]

[Fyron]

I like the left one better...

The front "gear" piece looks like the asteroid is phasing through it or something, as they overlap on both the left side of and the top of that one "spoke". Or the top and right, depending on the perspective you look at it from. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

I still think you should add many tiny grey structures on the top (or maybe a few http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) to make it look more massive. Kind of like how the death star looks almost like a city when you get close to the surface. Or keep it like that. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[CNCRaymond]

Could someone please do me a favor and sort these names for me. I tried but this computer has Word Perfect on it and word perfect does not sort individual names. (Word Perfect is a horrible program. Completely useless.)

http://www.astmod.com/cnc/Kaelon.txt

I wrote an html program to randomly generate names and this was the first batch.

http://www.astmod.com/cnc/ws5.BMP

Working site for the race is at www.astmod.com/cnc/Kaelon.htm (http://www.astmod.com/cnc/Kaelon.htm) for those of you who would like to see it. PS, it is also a neo standard set as well.

[ November 18, 2003, 02:48: Message edited by: CNCRaymond ]

[Captain Kwok]

Just cut and paste to MS Excel or a spreadsheet equivalent and then sort - then cut and paste back to notepad etc.

[Narratio]

Sorted and emailed to you

[CNCRaymond]

Thank you both.

http://www.astmod.com/cnc/ws5a.BMP

how does this one look?

[ November 18, 2003, 03:41: Message edited by: CNCRaymond ]

[Fyron]

Could someone please do me a favor and sort these names for me. I tried but this computer has Word Perfect on it and word perfect does not sort individual names. (Word Perfect is a horrible program. Completely useless.)
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Check out www.openoffice.org (http://www.openoffice.org) . It is a good free, open source alternative to MS Office (and all those other office suites that are still in business). It has a Version of Word, Excel, Power Point, and Word Art (or whatever that MS Office crap graphics program is). It can save files into and from all standard (and many non-standard) file formats, including Mac, MS, and others. Oh, and it is a heck of a lot smaller than MS Office to boot, with all the same functionality. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif And unlike some office suites, it won't make you sell your firstborn to use it...

[ November 18, 2003, 05:20: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[Fyron]

Originally posted by CNCRaymond:
how does this one look? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Starting to look massive now! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Is it supposed to be carved out of a massive planetoid (asteroid variety), or just made to look like one? I don't know how hard it would be to make it irregularly shaped in Doga if it is the former (though you seem to have that going on with the structures on the top already), though that could be a new direction to go, if you want more artistic fun. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif If not, keep it as is. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[primitive]

Originally posted by CNCRaymond:

how does this one look? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Great, it looks like something to fear http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Now you only need to make a whole set of similar looking ships for an asteroide race (none breathers) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Atrocities]

Nice work on the set. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Atrocities]

OBTW, what AI are you going to use for the race?

[Atrocities]

Hey I see you posted the race for download. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

The race portrait looks oddly familar though.

Nice set all round. Good work.

[Atrocities]

here is the link for those who don't want to look for it.

www.astmod.com/cnc/Kaelon.htm (http://www.astmod.com/cnc/Kaelon.htm)

Tis worth the download time IMHO. OH, and its Neo Standard too. Thats is always a big plus. And it has a couple extra ships more than Neo calls for cool. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[gregebowman]

Looks great. Can't wait to play this race in my next game.

[CNCRaymond]

Originally posted by primitive:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by CNCRaymond:

how does this one look? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Great, it looks like something to fear http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Now you only need to make a whole set of similar looking ships for an asteroide race (none breathers) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ask and you shall receive. <font color=purple>The Oxmal (http://www.astmod.com/cnc/Oxmal/Oxmal.htm)</font color>

There is no description as of yet, but basically the Oxmal are a race that value rock, they love it, they incorperate it into their designs as all of their ships are made in part by asteroids cut to exacting specifications and designs. The process that they employee in manufacturing give their ships a shiny polished appearance.

[ November 23, 2003, 02:54: Message edited by: CNCRaymond ]

[CNCRaymond]

http://www.astmod.com/cnc/Oxmal/Oxmal_Portrait_FighterMedium.PNG http://www.astmod.com/cnc/Oxmal/Oxmal_Portrait_WarBase.PNG http://www.astmod.com/cnc/Oxmal/Oxmal_Portrait_Battleship.PNG

The Oxmal (http://www.astmod.com/cnc/Oxmal/Oxmal.htm)

I am uploading the file at the moment so if you click on the download tag and it gives you a 404 error try back in about 30 minutes or so.

For a list of credits please read the Read-Me document.

[ November 23, 2003, 03:49: Message edited by: CNCRaymond ]

[CNCRaymond]

Oh ya, the set is also neo-standard.

I know it is not much to look at, but if you read the description, it explains the rock look. Enjoy or not; I had fun making the set so there. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Fyron]

You know... that would make a good Magic race for Adamant Mod. Mind if they get incorporated? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[primitive]

Originally posted by CNCRaymond:
Ask and you shall receive. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">LOL,
Keep making new shipsets at this pace and you will pass Atrocities late next year http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

The Oxmal is a great looking set. I espescially love the larger ships, they are pure gold.

But there's always something. Its difficult to tell which way the smaller ships (up to LC) are heading. Would it be possible to make them a little wider (and/or whiter) at the back ?

[CNCRaymond]

The Oxmal (http://www.astmod.com/cnc/Oxmal/Oxmal.htm)

I enlarged the mini ships and given the smaller ships a more defined aft appearance.

Sure by all means Fyron, feel free to use them for you mod.

[Atrocities]

They look really nice CNC. Especially the revision set as it makes them far more viewable. Good work.

[primitive]

Sweet !!!
The Primitive Hordes will definitely be using this set in a PBW game soon http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Atrocities]

The Ai was perty good too. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Very nicely done sets CNC. I am jelous now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

{at lest someone is using my spare parts for something.}

[narf poit chez BOOM]

what spare parts?

[Atrocities]

I made a about spare items total for use with any ship set. Something on the order of 15 bases, 25 troops, 15 weapon platforms, mines, and satellites. I posted about it some time ago. I also posted about it at www.spaceempires.net (http://www.spaceempires.net)

[narf poit chez BOOM]

ah. thanks.

[Fyron]

CNC, after creating your zip files, please delete the file Thumbs.db. It adds 200 KB to the files for no reason! It is the file used by XP to store the thumbnails for thumbnail viewing. It will be overwritten on anyones computer that wants to view them in thumbnail view anyways. So, it is a waste of bandwidth to include that file. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[CNCRaymond]

Man I do so very much hate XP. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif

Thanks for the tip Fyron. I guess I should have cought this when I zipped them. Must set PC up to detect hidden folders.