sure this has been asked a million times....

[nesrall]

Question about weapon platforms. I thought I remembered reading the weakest are destroyed first?(like comparing a WP with all shields or armour with one with just weapons)...I had thought I read WP's with weapons would be destroyed before the ones with shields or armour? What I'm wondering is when I build one should I include shields &/or armour on everyone or can I build an all shields & all armour ones & still have effectiveness?....also...doubting it much...but is there anyway you can tweek a .plr file without playing the whole turn over?

[DavidG]

Originally posted by nesrall:
also...doubting it much...but is there anyway you can tweek a .plr file without playing the whole turn over? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Nope. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[nesrall]

Thank You...I didn't think so but it doesn't hurt to ask. Everyone is stumped on the WP question huh?

[PvK]

Maybe we just didn't realize we only had 35 minutes to notice and respond. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

First-hit WP is generally determined by the total damage absorbtion capacity of the WP. Lowest damage resistance total are hit first.

Therefore, one tactic is to build small WP's which are all armor and/or shields, and then medium or large WP's which have weapons and maybe some armor/shields, but whose total damage resistance is greater than the all-defense WP's. That way, the weapons keep firing as long as possible.

PvK

[ October 31, 2003, 21:42: Message edited by: PvK ]

[Fyron]

Actually... aren't WPs destroyed randomly?

[narf poit chez BOOM]

36 minutes.

[Atrocities]

I have never noticed which is destroyed first. I always thought they were destoyed randomly or by some system that I am unaware of. But good question non the less.

[Asmala]

I can't remember who but someone made tests about this. The result was that weapon platforms tend to be destroyed from weakest to strongest. But when two platforms had almost the same amount of hitpoints (e.g. platforms differ only by one PDC) the stronger can be destroyed first.

From this I've thought that the weapon platforms are destroyed randomly to a certain extent. After every hit one weapon platform is picked randomly and if the accumulated damage is greater or equal than the picked platform it will be destroyed.

So if there's two platforms, 400 and 800 hps, and they are fired by a weapon which deals 50 damage per shot, it's highly unlikely that the 800 hp platform is selected 8 times in succession which means 400 hp platform is destroyed almost always first.

But as I said I haven't myself done these tests so I could've though incorrectly.

[Mephisto]

They are not destroyed randomly, PvK has it quite right. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[oleg]

Originally posted by Mephisto:
They are not destroyed randomly, PvK has it quite right. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I don't think so. There was some rigourous testing done (sorry, don't remember by whom and in what thread it was posted http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif )
The conclusion was units are destroyed randomly but it is skewed by the fact that lower hit point units have more chance to be destroyed first by simple roll of the dice and weighting against HP ratio. Well, at least that was my vague recollection of the debate http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Sorry if I'm wrong.

----

P.S. My post is almost the rewriting of Asmala' I did't read it first before posting.

[ November 01, 2003, 14:09: Message edited by: oleg ]

[Asmala]

Remember weapon platforms are always destroyed first. I don't know how the rest of the units are destroyed but frankly it doesn't interest me.

[Mephisto]

Originally posted by oleg:
Well, at least that was my vague recollection of the debate http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Sorry if I'm wrong.<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Mmm, I did quite a bit of testing myself on this and that was the result. Then again this was some time ago so it might have changed.

[Fyron]

Originally posted by Asmala:
Remember weapon platforms are always destroyed first. I don't know how the rest of the units are destroyed but frankly it doesn't interest me. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Only in the latest Versions of SE4. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif