Never moded my game! please advise me on one!

[wilhil]

hi!

I have only played the game normally, and I think it is brilliant, but after playing about 50 games or so, even though it is diffrent every itme, it just gets a little bit repetitive, and I want to try a mod!

I tried adding one thing my self, a new size ship, mothership, just one engine but 3500 space instead of 1500. I did not like this though as I didnt know how to make the AI Build one, I wanted a heavier ship, but I no way want to cheat! it is a bit unfair if the ai builds fleets of ships, and one mothership of mine can wipe them out! I want them to invade me with them aswell!

so basically, can anyone recomend a good mod for me to download that will keep me entertained for ages!

Thanks

wilhil

[ December 11, 2003, 20:10: Message edited by: wilhil ]

[narf poit chez BOOM]

ages, you say? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif porportions! from everything i've heard, it takes ages! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

i don't really know. i'm not playing much anymore.

[Cyrien]

I would recomend the Devnull Mod for just a little change from the standard game and for a larger change you could try the AIC Campaign.

If you want the AI to be smarter in just the normal game then the TDM modpack is perfect.

Though really to get the best out of SE4 you should try playing against other people. PBW is great for this.

[Fyron]

P&N mod with patched TDM AIs is a good choice for lots of small changes to the game that really add up. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

You have to add an attack ship design to each of the races' AI_Ship_Design.txt file that is 3500 kT in size (and a good design, of course), so that they will be able to design them. Once they design them, they will build them (unless in the early phases when they have a max tonnage of ship they will build).

For more information on modding the game (although it is not about AI modding, just the data files), check out SEIV Modding 101: A Tutorial (http://galileo.spaceports.com/~kazharii/modding101/ModdingTutorial.html).

[ December 11, 2003, 23:30: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[wilhil]

p & n, TDM, PBW, AIC...

ahh, please give names and links e.t.c.! I have no idea about anything, i love the game, but i am still a noob to the community, and understand nothing you are saying!

[Fyron]

http://www.malfador.com/se4mods.html has it all.

P&N = Pirates and Nomads
TDM = a "mod" that is really a collection of a bunch of custom tweaked AIs, that provides much stronger AI opponents than the stock game does.
PBW = Play By Web, a server that automates the hosting necessities of hosting a PBEM (Play By Email) multiplayer game
AIC = AI Campaign, which is loosely based on Proportions and has a lot of custom techs and comps for AIs to get around as many of the limitations of the AI as could be done, without much in the way of just giving them superstrong weapons/shields/etc.

[ December 11, 2003, 23:42: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[wilhil]

thanks, looking now

[wilhil]

also, I love star trek, and have seen a few mods, wich is the best one? I fancy giving it a try!

[Fyron]

The Star Trek Mod by Atrocities and Kwok (NOT the Atrocities Star Trek Mod, the other one) is the best one.

[pathfinder]

Originally posted by wilhil:
also, I love star trek, and have seen a few mods, wich is the best one? I fancy giving it a try! <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The AST mod by Atrocities is an excellent Star Trek mod. It is found here:
http://newageshipyards.cjb.net/

[ December 11, 2003, 23:58: Message edited by: pathfinder ]

[Fyron]

Originally posted by pathfinder:
The AST mod by Atrocities is an excellent Star Trek mod. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Though not as well laid out and developed as the Star Trek Mod. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Suicide Junkie]

Hey, I notice you don't have the Imagemodmod in there!

http://imagemodserver.mine.nu/imagemod/imagemodmod.zip

[wilhil]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
The Star Trek Mod by Atrocities and Kwok (NOT the Atrocities Star Trek Mod, the other one) is the best one. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I am trying this one, but when I load, half the planet pictures are missing http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif I looked in the help and it said

You need to install the Image Mod Components/Facilities/Planets/Combat modules.


but where do I get this from? I looked on the mod site and found the link, but I can not work out how to install it! I am sorry, but I love the game, but I am a noob to how it works on the moding site, and I just dont know what ot install and stuff! please help!

[Ed Kolis]

edit: oh, sorry, didn't read your post carefully enough... might fix it when I have the imagemod files handy http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ December 12, 2003, 16:45: Message edited by: Ed Kolis ]

[Fyron]

Extract Components.zip into the Pictures\Components folder. It is okay to do so in the stock Pictures folder, because it does not change any stock images, just adds many new ones. And, it will save having to have to have 10 copies of all those images in different mods. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Each other file gets installed in the exact same manner, using the appropriate folder under Pictures instead of Components. So Combat.zip gets extracted to Pictures\Combat and so on.

Yes, you want to overwrite files named Components.bmp, Beams.bmp, Torps.bmp, and so on. These contain a table of the "minis" for each image, as they have a 128x128 pixel "portrait" and a 36x36 pixel "mini".

[President_Elect_Shang]

Originally posted by wilhil:
Thanks for all of your help, I know have it all working!

now a diffrent sort of question! there are soooo many map types with the star trek mod! what is the diffrence between all the diffrent types like wpm wph wpl e.t.c.?

Thanks <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Not looking at them right now but I cn say for the above Warp Point Medium, Warp Point Heavy, Warp Point Light, the rest go along the same lines.

[Fyron]

If the FQM help documents were included, check them out. If not, go to the FQM website (http://fqm.spaceempires.net) to view it.

[wilhil]

Thanks for all of your help, I know have it all working!

now a diffrent sort of question! there are soooo many map types with the star trek mod! what is the diffrence between all the diffrent types like wpm wph wpl e.t.c.?

Thanks