Newbie Question #17

[Litcube]

Is max # of facilities directly proportional to max population?

[narf poit chez BOOM]

quick answer: nope.

long answer: population and facility max is determined by planet type and domed/undomed status. neither can be changed, outside of text editing. although there is a facility that can give you more cargo spaces.

[ January 27, 2004, 03:08: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

[Suicide Junkie]

Not precisely, but they are closely related.
See planetsize.txt for specific numbers.

Ack, too slow by seconds!

[ January 27, 2004, 03:09: Message edited by: Suicide Junkie ]

[narf poit chez BOOM]

bwahahahaha! i got this one first, and i typed more even before the edit! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

well, hey, i don't get many of them.

it's all that running on the mousewheel. around and around and around and around and around and...

[ January 27, 2004, 03:10: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

[Captain Kwok]

Originally posted by Litcube:
Is max # of facilities directly proportional to max population? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No, it is not.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">Size Pop Fac Pop/Fac
Tiny 500 5 100
Small 1000 10 100
Medium 2000 15 133
Large 4000 20 200
Huge 8000 25 320</pre><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">

[ January 27, 2004, 03:13: Message edited by: Captain Kwok ]

[Grandpa Kim]

Hmm, not quite. It works like this:

pop 100 m 1 fac
pop 200 m 2 fac
pop 300 m 3 fac
pop 400 m 4 fac
pop 500 m 5 fac
pop 1000m 10 fac
pop 2000m 15 fac
pop 4000m 20 fac
pop 8000m 25 fac

If you took advanced storage techniques multiply both pop and fac by 1.2 and round down the facilities.

Some mods give even larger planets and, as i recall, things get even more out of whack.

[Grandpa Kim]

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif AAK!

I gotta learn to type way, way, way faster!

[Captain Kwok]

Stupid code blocks always cost me that extra minute or two.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

*gives himself a medal*

[Litcube]

Interesting. Seems arbitrary.

Where's 6, 7, 8, and 9 facilities!?

[Fyron]

It is actually not arbitrary at all... breatheable planets have 5 facilities per size class. Domed colonies have 1/5 the space for everything.

[Litcube]

Oh..

[QBrigid]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Domed colonies have 1/5 the space for everything. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">What are you saying?
Fyron even I know there is not space for everything at Domed colonies.

[QBrigid]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
It is actually not arbitrary at all... breatheable planets have 5 facilities per size class. Domed colonies have 1/5 the space for everything. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The more I look at this Imperator Fyron you are mostly wrong about this, too.

[Ragnarok]

Originally posted by QBrigid:
The more I look at this Imperator Fyron you are mostly wrong about this, too. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Fyron is correct.

Non-Breathable 100M - 1 facility
Breathable 100M - 5 facility

etc..
etc..

Unless I am mistaken that is the way it all works...

[ January 27, 2004, 13:44: Message edited by: Ragnarok ]

[JLS]

Originally posted by QBrigid:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
It is actually not arbitrary at all... breatheable planets have 5 facilities per size class. Domed colonies have 1/5 the space for everything. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The more I look at this Imperator Fyron you are mostly wrong about this, too. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Fyron may have ment to say planets Facility Slots, not to be confused with planets cargo storage or cargo SPACE.
EDIT:= Or both.
Or not?

However, I can see how this can be misunderstood.

[ January 27, 2004, 14:06: Message edited by: JLS ]

[JLS]

Originally posted by Captain Kwok:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Litcube:
Is max # of facilities directly proportional to max population? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No, it is not.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">Size Pop Fac Pop/Fac
Tiny 500 5 100
Small 1000 10 100
Medium 2000 15 133
Large 4000 20 200
Huge 8000 25 320</pre><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana"> </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">QB, this may Help.

[geoschmo]

Expanding a little further on what JLS posted:

For tiny through huge planets, the facilities have a ratio of 1/5 (between domed and undomed).

For tiny and small worlds, the pop and cargo ratio is also 1/5.

For Medium worlds, the pop and cargo ratio is 3/20.

For large worlds the pop and cargo ratio is 1/10.

For Huge worlds the pop and cargo ratio is 1/16.

And for Ringwolrds and Sphereworlds, all three ratios are 1/2.

[ January 27, 2004, 14:30: Message edited by: geoschmo ]