OT: the best time loop ? [Archive]

Will

February 2nd, 2004, 11:18 PM

Groundhog Day was a Bill Murray movie, where every 'day', he wakes up on Groundhog Day. That's about all I really remember about the movie, I only watched it once around when it came out on video (which was a while ago). IIRC, he hates Groundhog Day, gets some kind of curse to live it over and over, and finally becomes a better person at the end. Or something like that http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

--edit: I've only seen previews for The Butterfly Effect, but I think that will turn out to be a good one. If I can just take the main character seriously, after he did all those silly movies.

Has anyone seen it? What do you think, if so?

[ February 02, 2004, 21:20: Message edited by: Will ]

narf poit chez BOOM

February 3rd, 2004, 01:04 AM

i like groundhog day. it was funny. Bill Murray is funny.

Atrocities

February 3rd, 2004, 01:28 AM

Ya, GHD was good.

If I could do time loop on me, I would go back to 1997 and end the sufforing then and there before it blossomed into the hell that is now my life. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Ah the things I would do over, and get right.

Master Belisarius

February 3rd, 2004, 01:31 AM

Is it a signal? While I'm checking the forum and reading this post, my little boy is seeing "Back to the Future".
Great movie!

Deathstalker

February 3rd, 2004, 02:49 AM

Anyone checked out Eliza Drishku's series Tru Calling?? Not a bad show, she re-lives the day to save dead people from ever dying....kinda neat....

Loser

February 3rd, 2004, 02:58 AM

I'm going with Groundhog Day, but I have to make certain that Donnie Darko gets mentioned.

Captain Kwok

February 3rd, 2004, 06:00 AM

I always liked the time loop in Star Trek: TNG's "Cause and Effect" episode where the Enterprise-D keeps going through the same day that concludes with a deadly collision with a starship from the past that's also stuck in the loop.

Kamog

February 3rd, 2004, 07:33 AM

The groundhog saw his shadow today so we'll have six more weeks of winter. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Fyron

February 3rd, 2004, 07:34 AM

*shoots the groundhog, then poisons its family* No more groundhogs! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Atrocities

February 3rd, 2004, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by Captain Kwok:
I always liked the time loop in Star Trek: TNG's "Cause and Effect" episode where the Enterprise-D keeps going through the same day that concludes with a deadly collision with a starship from the past that's also stuck in the loop. Ah yes, the Boseman NCC 1941, captained by Morgan Bateson, (Played by Kelsey Grammer). The Starship from the 23rd century which was Modernized to defend against Borg technology and if you listen to the audio in First Contact right after Picard tells Troi to put the battle on speaker, you can here Kelsey Grammer accept orders on behalf of the Bosemen. Nice touch.

It was a good episode of STNG. How many times did the Enterprise blow up?

dogscoff

February 3rd, 2004, 12:59 PM

Not exactrly a time-loop thing, but near enough: Twelve Monkies.

I need to see that film again, and this time I'm gonna try to watch it sober.

gregebowman

February 3rd, 2004, 03:03 PM

I got another time travel movie that defies description: Time Cop. Didn't necessarily loop, but he did go back a couple of times to the same point in time, and his house did blow up twice. What I really liked about this movie was that in the end, none of it happened. The bad guy and his younger self both died at the same time, thus causing time to flow in a different manner in which his life went on as it should have. Too bad he had no memory of the happy life.

Atrocities

February 3rd, 2004, 03:09 PM

I guess you would have to consider the Terminator series as a Time Loop too.

And I forget the name of the movie, but a moder day Aircraft carrier is sent back in time to just prior to the Sneak attack at Pearl Harbor. That was a good movie as well.

Rollo

February 3rd, 2004, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by dogscoff:
Not exactrly a time-loop thing, but near enough: Twelve Monkies.

I need to see that film again, and this time I'm gonna try to watch it sober. ... and leave that gorilla suit at home too.

gregebowman

February 3rd, 2004, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by Atrocities:
I guess you would have to consider the Terminator series as a Time Loop too.

And I forget the name of the movie, but a moder day Aircraft carrier is sent back in time to just prior to the Sneak attack at Pearl Harbor. That was a good movie as well. That movie was The Final Countdown. It's coming out on DVD soon, and I've already pre-ordered it. It's almost the perfect movie for me; it has both time travel and Pearl Harbor, 2 of my favorite subjects. Now, if Martin Sheen just wasn't in it.....

Roanon

February 3rd, 2004, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by gregebowman:
Now, if Martin Sheen just wasn't in it..... Oh so true! Perhaps we should start a new thread "Good films ruined by bad actors..."

Cipher7071

February 3rd, 2004, 04:48 PM

Bill Murray is more or less condemned to repeat the day until he get's everything right. It finally gets where he sort realizes what's going on. Every time he screws up, he knows he's just going to wake up again on Goundhog Day. And you're right, it's a very good movie.

gregebowman

February 3rd, 2004, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by Atrocities:
I guess you would have to consider the Terminator series as a Time Loop too.

. I have to disagree. The Terminator, at least the first one, is more of a time paradox movie. If Sarah Conner hadn't of met Kyle Reese originally, then who was the father of John who led the revolution? But John couldn't exist without Kyle Reese making jiggy with Sarah, right? That's what I've always wondered about.

Gryphin

February 3rd, 2004, 06:04 PM

I like the SG1 episode where some aliens set them up to relive situations from their past over and over and over.

EvilGenius4ABetterTomorro

February 3rd, 2004, 08:28 PM

The Final Countdown,
U.S.S. Nimitz goes back in time a few days before Dec 7, 1941. We get to see just how good F-14's are against Mitsubishi Zero fighters. And how to take out a helicopter with a flare gun.
If I could go back in time I would not buy Imperium Galactum, or Moo3, and use the money saved to waterproof Atrocities's house.
Yeah I'll second that 12 Monkeys also.

Narrew

February 3rd, 2004, 09:07 PM

This is not a time issue, but it is something I have thought about. Total Recall, I wish they had done a sequel because I don't know if he was in the chair the whole time, or if he was a "spy", I think they did a great job of fooling me, well I was caught completly off guard with the Sixth Sense also so maybe its just me.

tesco samoa

February 3rd, 2004, 09:25 PM

for me it is the bugs bunny one....

narf poit chez BOOM

February 3rd, 2004, 09:46 PM

there was another sg1 time loop one. very funny. ti'lk and o'neal live the same day over and over and over again for 2-3 months. minor spoiler: one second after time loops, ti'lk gets hit in the face with a door.

gregebowman

February 3rd, 2004, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by Narrew:
This is not a time issue, but it is something I have thought about. Total Recall, I wish they had done a sequel because I don't know if he was in the chair the whole time, or if he was a "spy", I think they did a great job of fooling me, well I was caught completly off guard with the Sixth Sense also so maybe its just me. I've always wonder if Total Recall really happened, or if that was a fantasy he went through. That flash of light at the end really makes you wonder. I've never heard anything about it; unlike the interview of the director for Blade Runner in which he did admit that Decker was a replicant. As far as Sixth Sense, I too was surprised at the ending.

dogscoff

February 5th, 2004, 10:41 AM

I've always wonder if Total Recall really happened, or if that was a fantasy he went through
Hell yeah, it was a fantasy. The way that the whole film completely fulfilled his wish-list (the athletic, classy, ****ty woman etcetc) did it for me. Also that highly improbable machine capable of making an entire planet's atmosphere breathable in less time than it takes for Arnie's eyes and veins to bulge unconvincingly out of his pLasticised head could never exist in anything other than some crappy, exagerrated, quasi-scifi, adolescent gunporn fantasy.

David E. Gervais

February 5th, 2004, 12:02 PM

Grrrrr, someone had to mention BladeRunner eh? One of my favorite movies, but no longer available in it's Great Original Theatrical release. (With Harrison Ford Narrating) Now the only Version you(I) can find is the stinky, bland, boaring, Director's Cut. That IMHO is but a shadow of the original. I don't mind a Director's Cut Version, but don't remove the original. I'd like to see how sales would compare if the Origial Version was available for sale at the same time as the Director's Cut. I bet the Original would out sell the DC Version by at least 4-1. (That would be very satisfying, to have the director find out his Version sucks, and that he never should have changed a Great movie into a mediocre one.)

Oh well, nuf said.

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

P.S. BTW My vote goes for Final Countdown, with GHD a close second.

Mephisto

February 5th, 2004, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
there was another sg1 time loop one. very funny. ti'lk and o'neal live the same day over and over and over again for 2-3 months. minor spoiler: one second after time loops, ti'lk gets hit in the face with a door. Ah, one of my favourite episodes! "What are you smiling at?" *dreaming* "�Nothing�"

Kamog

February 6th, 2004, 08:54 AM

dogscoff

February 6th, 2004, 12:06 PM

I thought that Total Recall was real and not fantasy. Quail (Schwarzenegger) knew it was real when that psychologist guy came and told him to swallow the pill, but he was sweating with fear.
Doesn't mean a thing. For one thing, it could have been part of the software to make him sweat when a gun is pointed at him. For another, he probably *was* afraid- not for his life but because he was about to lose a customer to psychosis which would be bad for business and probably for his own job.

Quaid had lost it, he was living in a dream world. Best place for him too.

kalthalior

February 6th, 2004, 06:50 PM

The SG1 episode where Jack and Teal'c lived the same day over and over was titled "WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY" from season 4. My favorite part was when they both learned to juggle while helping Daniel translate the pictures of the inscriptions.

Episode Description from SCIFI (http://scifi.com/stargate/episodes/season4/0406episode.html)

Cheeze

February 6th, 2004, 07:24 PM

Funniest part of that SG1 episode was when Jack and Teal'c open the gate and bring the golf bag. First is Teal'c in golf clothes. Second is Jack swatting balls through the gate. He asks Teal'c how far the planet is on the other end, and it's something like 80,000 light years.

Jack: "That's got to be a record" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

gregebowman

February 6th, 2004, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by David E. Gervais:
Grrrrr, someone had to mention BladeRunner eh? One of my favorite movies, but no longer available in it's Great Original Theatrical release. (With Harrison Ford Narrating) Now the only Version you(I) can find is the stinky, bland, boaring, Director's Cut. That IMHO is but a shadow of the original. I don't mind a Director's Cut Version, but don't remove the original. I'd like to see how sales would compare if the Origial Version was available for sale at the same time as the Director's Cut. I bet the Original would out sell the DC Version by at least 4-1. (That would be very satisfying, to have the director find out his Version sucks, and that he never should have changed a Great movie into a mediocre one.)

Oh well, nuf said.

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

P.S. BTW My vote goes for Final Countdown, with GHD a close second. I agree with you 200%!! Give me the original Version of Blade Runner and the Director's Cut. They do this for other movies; I don't understand why they can't for BR. I haven't bought the dvd. I"m holding out for the original Version. Once I get that, if it's not a combined dvd, then I'll get the director's cut. Unless the director has the say on which Version can be released?

gregebowman

August 2nd, 2004, 11:19 PM

Originally posted by gregebowman:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Atrocities:
I guess you would have to consider the Terminator series as a Time Loop too.

And I forget the name of the movie, but a moder day Aircraft carrier is sent back in time to just prior to the Sneak attack at Pearl Harbor. That was a good movie as well. That movie was The Final Countdown. It's coming out on DVD soon, and I've already pre-ordered it. It's almost the perfect movie for me; it has both time travel and Pearl Harbor, 2 of my favorite subjects. Now, if Martin Sheen just wasn't in it..... <hr /></blockquote>Finally, after all of these months, I finally watch The Final Countdown. I still think it's a pretty good time travel flick, even with Martin Sheen in it. But as I was watching it, I realized that they should have used this film as a Navy recruiting film instead of Top Gun. Top Gun only dealt with pilots. That may make up about 1 or 2 percent of the Navy population. This film showed what aircraft crews did, and spent quite a bit of the movie showing the crew doing their jobs. If anyone was interested, and didn't hope to have any chance to be a pilot, you could get a look at what the enlisted personnel did on a ship. Ships have their officers, but it's the crew who actually run things. That's what I was thinking when I was watching this film. So if you're thinking about a career in the Navy, check this film out.

narf poit chez BOOM

August 2nd, 2004, 11:44 PM

Originally posted by Cheeze:
Funniest part of that SG1 episode was when Jack and Teal'c open the gate and bring the golf bag. First is Teal'c in golf clothes. Second is Jack swatting balls through the gate. He asks Teal'c how far the planet is on the other end, and it's something like 80,000 light years.

Jack: "That's got to be a record" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif My favorite from that was when the general walked in and wanted to know what was going on.
"On a backswing?!" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ August 02, 2004, 22:44: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

gregebowman

August 3rd, 2004, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by geoschmo:
My favorite time loopy movie: Frequency (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0186151/)

Not a strict time-loop movie, cause no one actually travels but they only communicate across time, but it's cool nonetheless. I loved this film too. Makes me wish I could have done something like that, since my dad passed away in 2000. But we never had a short-wave radio. We had a cb for a short time in the 70's. Another movie I like with that theme is Field of Dreams. Not really a sci-flick, but you have the ghosts/reincarnations? of some of baseball's greats and then Ray's dad shows up.

Sinapus

August 3rd, 2004, 08:29 PM

"What is wrong, O'Neill?"
"Everytime we loop back, Daniel is asking me a question. Problem is, I wasn't listening the first time."
"You are not the only one experiencing discomfort from this, O'Neill."
*fwash*
*WHAM* "Uh, sorry sir!"

rdouglass

August 3rd, 2004, 08:47 PM

Nobody mention 'Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure'? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

AMF

August 3rd, 2004, 08:57 PM

"memento"

Definitely NOT a time-loop plot per se, but it sure felt like one, no?

Raging Deadstar

August 4th, 2004, 01:15 AM

I quie liked the time loop stuff B5 did, but I go With Stargate SG1 for this.

Narf: I believe the correct quaote was "In the Middle of My Backswing!!!" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif (I watch SG1 waaaaaaay too much http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) It was a gret episode. I think one of the best parts not already mentioned was when Jack and Teal'c kept correcting daniel on latin and daniel kept getting ran into http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Not forgetting the "resignation" part http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif