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Pablo
February 4th, 2004, 11:19 AM
After a difficult (slow at first) game against the USA (and unfortunate ending) we were declared victorious... But we want more! Any country willing to take the challenge for a team vs team game? Chicken?
One at a time, please http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ March 02, 2004, 10:30: Message edited by: Pablo ]

Karibu
February 4th, 2004, 11:38 AM
I could be in the Finnish team if we get enough players (I will ask my friends). You know, our name comes from the fact that we always finish the arguments... or everything for that matter http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ February 04, 2004, 09:38: Message edited by: Karibu ]

Pablo
February 4th, 2004, 12:33 PM
Nice to hear a voice for a challenge! Just make sure that your friends are 'finnish' too and will not leave the game in the middle without a replacement. Get the players (5-6) here if possible and we will discuss the details.

Asmala
February 4th, 2004, 12:46 PM
This sounds cool, lets see if we get enough Finnish players. I can't promise for others but I won't drop out of the game.

Pablo
February 4th, 2004, 01:02 PM
Suggested conditions as in the game against the USA:
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Game name: LT vs FIN
Max Players: 14 (7/7) 10 (5/5)
Turn duration: 72 hours
Turn automation: Timed turns only
SE4 Version: Stock v1.84 (Gold Patch 3)

Starting resources: 20000
Starting planets: 3
Home planet value: Good
Score display: Allied
Technology level: Low
Racial points: 3000
Quadrant type: Custom design
Quadrant size: Large
Event frequency: None
Event severity: N/A
Technology cost: Medium
Victory conditions: Last Alliance Standing
Maximum units: 5000
Maximum ships: 5000
Computer players: None
Computer difficulty: N/A
Computer player bonus: N/A
Neutral empires: None

Other game settings:
- Intelligence - YES
- Players can colonize all planet types
- Gifts\Tributes - YES
- Technology Gifts\Tributes\Trades - YES
- Ruins - YES
----------------------------
Rules agreed by LT team. FIN is everything fine for you?

Edit: Asmala, it will be the pleasure to meet you again http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

[ February 04, 2004, 11:03: Message edited by: Pablo ]

Karibu
February 4th, 2004, 04:18 PM
Stats are fine with me. I asked couple of my friends to join. I will tell here when I receive their answer. Asmala, do you have any finnish friends to join in this game?

Pablo, how the player location is made? Totally random, so the team members would be scattered around in the galaxy or are you able to make them group in one part of the universe?

Also I am able to start the game earliest at march 1st, because I am travelling the Last week of february and unable to be Online during that time.

Lastly, I would like to know who are our future enemies (do they hang in this board?) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Asmala
February 4th, 2004, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by Pablo:
Edit: Asmala, it will be the pleasure to meet you again http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Thanks. The game where we meet was Space 3:Expansion if I'm right. It was a nice game (and BIG, I've neither before nor after have over 20M overproduction per turn or build a sphereworld http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif ) and you had quite a big empire but the end wasn't good, Vienetai shouldn't have surrendered to me.

About game settings, I'm not sure if ruins are good. In team game they aren't so important but they can still unbalance the game. And I really suggest banning religious trait.

Asmala
February 4th, 2004, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by Karibu:
Asmala, do you have any finnish friends to join in this game?<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Nope, sorry.

Pablo
February 4th, 2004, 06:18 PM
Asmala, I do not think that ruins may so much overpower the game to be Banned when they add some unpredictability.
About the talisman - we are for letting it in. If you're afraid of it - use it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Asmala
February 4th, 2004, 08:24 PM
I'm not afraid of it (because I can take it too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ) but I've played one 3vs3 team game before and in that game both teams had two talisman players and one support player. IMO it makes the game less interesting. I'm curious how many talisman players there were in Lithuania vs USA game?

The other thing we should consider is ancient trait. It is absolutely sure both teams will have one ancient player and that would make exploring useless, thus removing one game aspect.

And what about colony/atmosphere types. Should a team pick one colony type so others must be researched or no limits.

Simplify
February 5th, 2004, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by Asmala:
I'm not afraid of it (because I can take it too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ) but I've played one 3vs3 team game before and in that game both teams had two talisman players and one support player. IMO it makes the game less interesting. I'm curious how many talisman players there were in Lithuania vs USA game?

The other thing we should consider is ancient trait. It is absolutely sure both teams will have one ancient player and that would make exploring useless, thus removing one game aspect.

And what about colony/atmosphere types. Should a team pick one colony type so others must be researched or no limits. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Simplify are ready and willing. And if you didn't knew that before, I am Finn.
I have played (too) many thalisman games before, so I vote to drop that too. And if we talking about good playing (in team), maybe we should drop Ancient race also.
When I saw the racial points: 3000, I was sure that this game is religious, so if we are going to allow talishman I will suggest to use max 1000 racial points, maybe even 0.

Cheers

tesco samoa
February 5th, 2004, 06:37 PM
every time i read the title to this thread i see

lithuanian teen wants more !

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Asmala
February 5th, 2004, 08:14 PM
LOL http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Karibu
February 5th, 2004, 10:39 PM
Okay. My friend Hese has agreed to join in this game. Now there is 4 finns: Asmala, Simplify, Hese and me. Do we need more? I don't know any other finns around here... I would like to know our opponents.

Pablo
February 5th, 2004, 11:39 PM
Well, we'd like at least 5 vs 5 or even better 7 vs 7 as both countries are small enough to get the number of players. From my experience - the bigger the country the harder it is to find team players. Haven't you ever played a Finland only game? We had a couple 20 player games. Asmala was accepted into the third one (and won it!). So we have some unfinished business with him http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
Talisman and ancient race - we would like to leave it in the game as well as ruins and intel. This is our team's wish. If all FIN players are against it - we will have to come to a compromise somehow. Anyway it is nice to see that Finland has some players ready for battle http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Pablo
February 6th, 2004, 03:34 PM
One of our team players came up with an idea about Lithuania vs. Scandinavia game in case there are no more players from Finland. What do you think?

Simplify
February 6th, 2004, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by Pablo:
One of our team players came up with an idea about Lithuania vs. Scandinavia game in case there are no more players from Finland. What do you think? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I think 4 Finns beat 7 Lithunians, anyway. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Cheers

BBegemott
February 6th, 2004, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by Simplify:

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana"> Originally posted by Pablo:
One of our team players came up with an idea about Lithuania vs. Scandinavia game in case there are no more players from Finland. What do you think?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I think 4 Finns beat 7 Lithunians, anyway. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Cheers
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hey! That's not ice hockey! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Liudas
February 7th, 2004, 01:19 PM
yeah find at least 5 or 6 players and we can start the game. we already found 6 players and waiting for competitors.

Asmala
February 7th, 2004, 08:53 PM
BBegemott, you're in Lithuanian team? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

BBegemott
February 7th, 2004, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by Asmala:
BBegemott, you're in Lithuanian team? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Surely I am http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Karibu
February 9th, 2004, 12:54 PM
I don't think we find any more Finnish players. At least I don't know any who are able to participate this game. Perhaps some Swedish or Norvegian but I don't know any of them either.

Or we can just start 4 vs. 4.

Liudas
February 9th, 2004, 05:01 PM
how about we just create a game and wait players to join it? maybe some of finnish players dont use this forum and don`t know about this game? we just need to arrange the rules of game.

dogscoff
February 9th, 2004, 05:20 PM
Or you could change the title of this thread from "lithuanian team wants more" to "Finnish team needs more players!"

That might help...

Pablo
February 10th, 2004, 07:37 AM
Done.

Edit: anybody willing to be a GM or make a custom map for team vs. team game with the teams on the opposite sides? If there are only 4 or 5 players maybe a Medium map should be used?

[ February 10, 2004, 05:41: Message edited by: Pablo ]

Ruatha
February 10th, 2004, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by Karibu:
I don't think we find any more Finnish players. At least I don't know any who are able to participate this game. Perhaps some Swedish or Norvegian but I don't know any of them either.

Or we can just start 4 vs. 4. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Primitive is norwegian, ask him.

primitive
February 10th, 2004, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by Ruatha:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Karibu:
I don't think we find any more Finnish players. At least I don't know any who are able to participate this game. Perhaps some Swedish or Norvegian but I don't know any of them either.

Or we can just start 4 vs. 4. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Primitive is norwegian, ask him. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sorry guys.
Too many games and not enough time http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

BTW:
Ruatha is Swedish, ask him http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Liudas
February 11th, 2004, 07:42 PM
So ruatha what about you? wanna join your scandinavian friends against evil lithuanian team? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )

Ruatha
February 12th, 2004, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by Liudas:
So ruatha what about you? wanna join your scandinavian friends against evil lithuanian team? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ) <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Nah, I'm to afraid of these evil balts.

Asmala
February 12th, 2004, 10:25 PM
There is fifth player coming to Finnish team. Since we can start only on the 1st of March there is still time to get the team full.

Simplify
February 12th, 2004, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by Asmala:
There is fifth player coming to Finnish team. Since we can start only on the 1st of March there is still time to get the team full. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Nice! Can you tell us who that going to be?

Pablo
February 17th, 2004, 08:22 AM
At the moment there are 6 Lithuanian players and 5 Finnish. In case of 5 being a maximum number - LT team will drop 1 player.
Still we need a map and a GM for our game. Anybody?

Karibu
February 17th, 2004, 08:00 PM
I suggest we wait until 3rd of March because I have one another game starting 1st day and because I haven't done my empire file for this game and propably settings are not done by this friday and I am travelling from 20th feb to 29th february. I need some time when I come back home.

Pablo
February 18th, 2004, 06:57 PM
Karibu, no problem starting the game when you come back but from our experience in the LT vs USA game it is very difficult to get things going. That's why I suggest starting the game on PBW and joining it. You can upload your empire when you're ready. By that time we should have everything prepared (map, other emp files etc.). Hopefully...

Tuksa
February 20th, 2004, 08:22 AM
Originally posted by Simplify:
Nice! Can you tell us who that going to be?<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That would be me.

Asmala
February 20th, 2004, 06:33 PM
I'd like to hear players opinion about following issues:

-storm creators (if the game starts before the new patch is released)
-deeply religious trait
-ancient trait
-same atmosphere and colony type for all
-3000 racial points

I suggest banning first three and lowering racial points.

Liudas
February 20th, 2004, 07:36 PM
i dont have an opinion on acient race and storm creators, but i preffer to keep 3000 racial points, it lets to create stronger empires and makes the game faster , and i would like to use all kind of colony tipes and all breatheble planets. Dont make the game complicated because both sides have some inexperenced players.As for the the talisman i think most of our players would like to use it, so i am with them.

BBegemott
February 20th, 2004, 08:21 PM
Yeah, storm creators should be Banned.

deeply religious- in this team game empire without this trait would be in serious disagvantage. So we have 2 options: everybody *must* take talisman or nobody does it. Personally I would like to go with first choice.

ancient race- i'm fine either way.

I would like no restrictions on planet type & atmosphere. Deathmatch should be quick.

racial points- i'm fine either way.

Asmala
February 20th, 2004, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by BBegemott:
I would like no restrictions on planet type & atmosphere. Deathmatch should be quick.<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If there is no restrictions each player would take different atmosphere and colony type. That means no research required to get all colony types and lots of extra job when players trade population and transports to proper planets. Easier if all team members have to choose same atmosphere.

That is the reason why I asked the same atmosphere for all players but I have no problems whatever we decide.

With 3000 racial points it's sure everyone will take the talisman. So the question is whether we want it. And ancient, it's up to you if you want to explore or not. It's also absolutely sure one team member picks ancient trait.

Liudas
February 21st, 2004, 08:20 AM
we don`t need to research colonization tipes, we can just trade them among us. So we could use all planets and moons.

Asmala
February 21st, 2004, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by Liudas:
we don`t need to research colonization tipes, we can just trade them among us. So we could use all planets and moons. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah I know and that's the reason I suggested all team members should pick same colony type so trading isn't possible and other colony types have to be researched.

Asmala
February 21st, 2004, 09:47 AM
Is the map FQM or standard?

Cheeze
February 21st, 2004, 07:12 PM
This is not my game so my input is really unimportant. I really like the Deeply Religious trait beyond the talisman itself, and much like the max aggressiveness/defensive/bezerker design, I think it gets over-used and limits planning and thinking that can make the game much more enjoyable.

I suggest you limit each team to one religious player. With a 5-on-5 match, the religious trait becomes useful but not overly dominant in the game. Chances are many religious ships will be focused near each team's respective player, but there will be too many places for it to entirely dominate. The religious player will probably supply talisman ships so that each player will have some, so they become part of the strategic game but not the only part. It would make the game much more interesting.

I gather this was a no intel game? That would prevent each side from merely focusing on the other team's religious player.

Asmala
February 22nd, 2004, 11:13 AM
This isn't no intel game.

Simplify
February 22nd, 2004, 11:23 AM
Hi there,

I have promised to play in Finnish team, but I need to say that I have played TOO many religious games. I hate the situation that I need to take religious cause my opponents takes it too... So I will vote NO for religious.
I will vote YES for intelligence.
Everything else is fine with me.

Cheers

Pablo
February 23rd, 2004, 08:21 AM
This is getting to the point of LT for religious and FIN against. We will rediscuss this issue and maybe decide to leave the talisman out. Everything else should be left as stock game settings.
I am not aware of the issues about the storm creators so some info would be helpful.
Choosing same atmosphere is not our point as the game should be team-based so trading is frequent and management of colonies is also team-based (organization is more important than speed).

Liudas
February 23rd, 2004, 05:01 PM
Yes that is the point, i want to see which of us are more organized. I know you asmala are good player, but are you a good team player? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Simplify
February 23rd, 2004, 05:41 PM
Can somebody post what kind of game conditions we have so far. It's much easier to figure this out after that. I will also say that Ancient race should be Banned (if we are talking about team playing) and how about if we can allow only 1 of kind special trait / team. F.e you can have 1 religious player one organic and so on... If you like?

Liudas
February 23rd, 2004, 08:34 PM
Nah, whats the point of the team if they cant even coordinate their research because of different advanced traits?

known conditions:
storm creators: Banned
talismans: i think it will be Banned
3k racial points: i think most of players would like to have 3k racial points
acient: dont know, i think it will be Banned
same atmosphere tipe: lithuanian team doesnt agree with it.

Asmala
February 23rd, 2004, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by Pablo:
I am not aware of the issues about the storm creators so some info would be helpful.<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If you use "repeat orders" when creating storms you can create up to 250 storms in one turn. Since storm creators are cheap it's easy to create hundreds of storms over each of your planet and sun. You can imagine the game will Last long then. This will be fixed in upcoming patch.

Pablo
February 24th, 2004, 07:56 AM
Thanks Asmala, I must have missed it somehow. In this case storms are Banned for sure.
As I understand, we still have only 5 Finnish players...
Game settings are as Liudas mentioned. No limitations on racial traits (only religious Banned) or atmosphere types. Intel/ruins/trade/whatever also allowed. 3000 racial points.

Simplify
February 24th, 2004, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by Pablo:
Thanks Asmala, I must have missed it somehow. In this case storms are Banned for sure.
As I understand, we still have only 5 Finnish players...
Game settings are as Liudas mentioned. No limitations on racial traits (only religious Banned) or atmosphere types. Intel/ruins/trade/whatever also allowed. 3000 racial points. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sounds great!
Let's get organized and go for it!

Asmala
February 24th, 2004, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by Asmala:
Is the map FQM or standard? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">BUMP

Pablo
February 25th, 2004, 09:14 AM
FQM maps are better than stock so we may use it. In the game LT vs USA we had a great 'surprise' map made by Unknown_Enemy who was also the GM for the game. The same would be great this time too. I will open a new thread for the subject.

Liudas
February 25th, 2004, 01:48 PM
Yes, there was few unpleasant suprises, mostly in USA side. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif But it makes the game more intresting.

Karibu
February 29th, 2004, 04:10 PM
My suggestion is following:

1. 3000 racial points
2. Ban talisman, but not religious (nature shrine is still tempting)
3. Ban Ancient race
4. Intel is on.

Also, patch 1.91 ispublished, so the storm creator question is academic (I suppose we use the newest patch). Now we need someone to set the rules on stone, create map and create the game so we can start. Also confirmation of players would be nice.

Pablo
February 29th, 2004, 04:41 PM
Yes, Karibu, you are correct. And you may check out this thread (http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=011062)as there are some discussions about map and GM for our game.

Asmala
February 29th, 2004, 09:22 PM
I need a clarification for two things:
1. Ancient, is it Banned or not?
2. Why turns are Timed turns only and not Fully automatic?

Pablo
March 1st, 2004, 03:38 PM
Ancient is Banned together with talisman.
Timed turns are for the reason that in our game against USA we had some gaps between turns for a week or even more. After that the GM set timed turns and everything started to move forward.

Asmala
March 1st, 2004, 05:05 PM
But if all players are ready why should we wait?

Karibu
March 1st, 2004, 05:11 PM
I think that the best option would be to use LPU (Last player upload), so when the Last player uploads his/her turn, the new turn is generated automatically but not before.

Also all the game settings must be listed somewhere (racial points, mods, starting resources, etc.) before we can make the empires.

Btw. one more suggestion: Scores are only visible to allied palyers. Then it is more exciting when you don't know if your opponent is stronger and it makes intel more important.

Liudas
March 1st, 2004, 06:21 PM
Game name: LT vs FIN
Max Players: 10 (5/5)
Turn duration: 72 hours
Turn automation: Timed turns only
SE4 Version: Stock v1.91 (Gold Patch 4)

Starting resources: 20000
Starting planets: 3
Home planet value: Good
Score display: Allied
Technology level: Low
Racial points: 3000
Quadrant type: Custom design
Quadrant size: Medium
Event frequency: None
Event severity: N/A
Technology cost: Medium
Victory conditions: Last Alliance Standing
Maximum units: 5000
Maximum ships: 5000
Computer players: None
Computer difficulty: N/A
Computer player bonus: N/A
Neutral empires: None

Other game settings:
- Intelligence - YES
- Players can colonize all planet types
- Gifts\Tributes - YES
- Technology Gifts\Tributes\Trades - YES
- Ruins - YES
- Ban talisman, but not religious (nature shrine is still tempting)
- Ban Ancient race

[ March 01, 2004, 17:42: Message edited by: Liudas ]

Pablo
March 1st, 2004, 08:29 PM
Karibu, you are correct again - score will be visible only of allies. I told you what happened in our game against USA with ALPU turning. Somebody leaves the game and it just freezes. I agree we can try ALPU in this game but with the condition that turn duration is no longer than 3 days. 3 days is because sometimes people leave for the weekend without internet connection.

primitive
March 2nd, 2004, 09:54 AM
So far we have Executer, Pablo, BBegemott and Admirolas from Lithuania.

Who is the Last player ?

BTW:
Pablo, Could you please rename the thread to something more suitable http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Pablo
March 2nd, 2004, 12:40 PM
done

primitive
March 2nd, 2004, 01:03 PM
Okay, time for the Finns to join. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Karibu
March 2nd, 2004, 05:22 PM
I joined the game and the game shows gray (as it should) in my list when I go to PBW, but I can't see my race in "pending join" -state in the game player listing. I hope it is there...

BBegemott
March 2nd, 2004, 05:24 PM
Don't worry. I see Karibu pending join.

Karibu
March 2nd, 2004, 07:34 PM
Okay. I see it now too. Perhaps it took some time from the server. Usually I notice it directly after joining the game.

primitive
March 3rd, 2004, 11:16 AM
Still missing 3 Finns.

I will go skiing in the weekend so you better hurry if you want this started before then. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

The map is almost ready. Just a few tests to run.

Zharktas
March 3rd, 2004, 01:11 PM
Is this game still open or am I just way too late?

primitive
March 3rd, 2004, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by Zharktas:
So... I can still join in the finnish team? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If there is an extra Lithuanian it's still time to increase the game to 6 x 6.

I will need to add you to the game Last, so I will need your PBW nick and a working e-mail address for you. E-mail me if you don't want to post it here (my address is in my profile)

primitive
March 3rd, 2004, 03:32 PM
OK, a bit about the map then.

In each of your home systems you will find a strange warppoint in the corner (don’t worry it’s not damaging). These warpoints lead to the Vilnius and Helsinki systems. Use these for easy communication and sending reinforcements when needed.

Beware, apart from this line of communication, your allies may be far away and your enemies may be close (it differs).

I don’t think I have to remind you of the importance to guard this backdoor well if one of your teammembers gets swarmed early http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Simplify
March 3rd, 2004, 04:12 PM
Sounds like VERY interesting map. I can hardly wait. Thx Man!
Originally posted by primitive:
OK, a bit about the map then.

In each of your home systems you will find a strange warppoint in the corner (don’t worry it’s not damaging). These warpoints lead to the Vilnius and Helsinki systems. Use these for easy communication and sending reinforcements when needed.

Beware, apart from this line of communication, your allies may be far away and your enemies may be close (it differs).

I don’t think I have to remind you of the importance to guard this backdoor well if one of your teammembers gets swarmed early http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">

Liudas
March 4th, 2004, 02:14 AM
Don`t worry zharktas the game will not begin without you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Karibu
March 4th, 2004, 02:35 AM
Also Hese and Asmala are still missing. I informed Hese yesterday and he was still coming. I think it may take few days for them to make their empire files. Also I think we have to negociate with ourselves (Fin team) how to organize our race stats so that we can get best out of it.

Fin team so far:
Hese
Asmala
Simplify
Karibu
Tuksa

Zharktas
March 4th, 2004, 02:54 AM
So... I can still join in the finnish team?

Pablo
March 4th, 2004, 07:09 AM
Yes, it does sound interesting. About the 6th LT player - I will try to find one today.

Primitive, the settings are:
3000 points
Religious: only the talisman component is Banned
Intel: On

And have a nice weekend in the mountains! Don't forget your camera http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Pablo
March 4th, 2004, 11:14 AM
Got it. Primitive, please expand the game to 12 players http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

primitive
March 4th, 2004, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by Pablo:
Got it. Primitive, please expand the game to 12 players http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">OK,

I will need to add the two Last players manually to not screw up the map. Need the PBW nick for your Last guy.

Pablo
March 5th, 2004, 02:25 AM
His pbw nick is Bingo.

Asmala
March 7th, 2004, 11:44 AM
I was on vacation this week so that's the reason I didn't join to the game.

The map sounds great. I can't wait till the game starts. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif However it'll take some time before we (FIN team) have discussed our strategies.

Karibu
March 7th, 2004, 06:56 PM
Asmala is right. I wish you Lithuanians are patient with us (well, you get to kick our asses soon enough http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) for organizing the races of 6 people takes some time.

Pablo
March 7th, 2004, 09:09 PM
Don't worry, we need some time too to coordinate the races but please, not a month... We should start the game some time this week. What do you think?

Asmala
March 7th, 2004, 10:03 PM
I think we'll be ready some time next (almost this) week.

Karibu
March 8th, 2004, 07:27 AM
I'll be ready in this week also.

Asmala
March 8th, 2004, 09:47 PM
Primitive, the description in PBW isn't quite correct. You could copy this descpription to there:

Game name: LT vs FIN, Battle of the Baltics
Max Players: 12 (6/6)
Turn duration: 72 hours
Turn automation: After Last player only (will be changed to fully automatic if we encounter problems)
SE4 Version: Stock v1.91 (Gold Patch 4)

Starting resources: 20000
Starting planets: 3
Home planet value: Good
Score display: Allied
Technology level: Low
Racial points: 3000
Quadrant type: Custom design
Quadrant size: Medium
Event frequency: None
Event severity: N/A
Technology cost: Medium
Victory conditions: Last Alliance Standing
Maximum units: 5000
Maximum ships: 5000
Computer players: None
Computer difficulty: N/A
Computer player bonus: N/A
Neutral empires: None

Other game settings:
- Intelligence - YES
- Players can colonize all planet types
- Gifts\Tributes - YES
- Technology Gifts\Tributes\Trades - YES
- Ruins - YES
- Ban talisman, but not religious (nature shrine is still tempting)
- Ban Ancient race

Pablo
March 9th, 2004, 07:41 AM
Thanks Asmala, I missed the starting planet number/value thing.

Simplify
March 9th, 2004, 09:29 AM
Primitive: Can you tell us the approximate size of galaxy, or is it secret?

primitive
March 9th, 2004, 10:50 AM
Asmala;
Thanks, description updated.

Simplify:
At work right now, so I don’t have the exact numbers but I would guess about 150 systems. Some of you guys may meet very early so be carefull http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Simplify
March 10th, 2004, 08:09 AM
Hi,

I just uploaded my empire (first one).
Mov'it, mov'it, mov'it!!!

Karibu
March 10th, 2004, 07:45 PM
I have a little problem. I have made empire using Borg shipset. However, in SEIV shipset download section is several borg shipsets and when I go to upload my empire, there is only 2 borg shipsets in combobox.

How can I be sure the other shipset is same as the one in my computer? Or that it would not generate any errors during game. The first option is to use "default shipset (build in)", which I assume that my empire file includes my shipset. How can this be done? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif

Asmala
March 10th, 2004, 10:14 PM
"default shipset (build in)" means you're using a shipset which is in stock SE4 (ie. the Version you install from cd). Even if you're using a stock ships set, say Phong, you shouldn't pick "default shipset (build in)" but "Stock Shipset - Phong" so others know what you've selected and selection of two same shipsets can be avoided.

I don't know other way to find out which Borg shipset you're using but downloading them all and then comparing.

geoschmo
March 10th, 2004, 10:23 PM
It probably doesn't really matter which Borg shipset you are using. All SE4 cares about when you play your turn is that there is a shipset folder with the correct name. I would guess most or all of the borg shipsets out there have the folder named just "borg" so any of them should work. As far as teh AI files needed for processing, those are on teh PBW server and is not affected by which borg shipset you happen to be using on your own pc.

Geoschmo

Karibu
March 10th, 2004, 10:29 PM
okay. Thanks for clarification.

Simplify
March 12th, 2004, 03:25 PM
FINNs are going to be ready tonight. And FINNs will FINish you soon.
How about you guys, when you are ready to start?

Cheerz

Pablo
March 12th, 2004, 09:40 PM
One of us is away a little but should be back today/tomorrow so there should be no long pause for the start. And we will see who will finish those Finnish http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Asmala
March 13th, 2004, 06:48 PM
All empires are now uploaded. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

primitive
March 13th, 2004, 07:24 PM
Just a couple more hours now http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Liudas
March 13th, 2004, 10:48 PM
Something is wrong. When i make turn i saves to baltic_001.plr and when i want to upload turn it is written that it must be litvsfin_0001.plr. And when i push sent turn button, menu popups asking me do i want to download "gameupload" file, and doesn`t lets me upload turn.

primitive
March 13th, 2004, 10:52 PM
Oups, My bad.

New turn 1 in an hour http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

primitive
April 26th, 2004, 03:31 PM
So, Wassup ?

Everybody happy so far ?

BBegemott
April 26th, 2004, 03:43 PM
Yeah, Lithuanians are happy.
Don't know what about Fins, as their total HW number was reduced by 2 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ April 26, 2004, 14:43: Message edited by: BBegemott ]

Greybeard
April 26th, 2004, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by Karibu:
Okay. My friend Hese has agreed to join in this game. Now there is 4 finns: Asmala, Simplify, Hese and me. Do we need more? I don't know any other finns around here... I would like to know our opponents. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I could be a finn. Asmala and I were blood brothers in one of our games. Does that count??? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Just jesting...Greybeard

Karibu
April 27th, 2004, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by Greybeard:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Karibu:
Okay. My friend Hese has agreed to join in this game. Now there is 4 finns: Asmala, Simplify, Hese and me. Do we need more? I don't know any other finns around here... I would like to know our opponents. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I could be a finn. Asmala and I were blood brothers in one of our games. Does that count??? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Just jesting...Greybeard </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, if you feel so Finn, you could turn your coat and ally with us. We are going to win, after all http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

primitive
April 27th, 2004, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by BBegemott:
Yeah, Lithuanians are happy.
Don't know what about Fins, as their total HW number was reduced by 2 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Only 16 to go then http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Good luck to both teams. Hope the map is to your liking.

Liudas
April 30th, 2004, 11:21 PM
Thanks primitive, the map is great. As for the progress of the game, we have some colonies in their hw systems and they have none in ours (they had one, but it was quickly destroyed), and we are pushing them slowly to the corner. If we keep it this way and don`t get any surprizes we gonna win sooner or later.