OT: Heating Space

[Katchoo]

A Star is super hot. So my query is would the space approaching a Star be heated aswell?

If this proves true, then if you found a safe distance from a Star (where it wouldn't be too hot) and if you had a suit that could effectively filter the radiation comming off the Star, then you could work outside your spacecraft without worrying about freezing to death.

Just imagine slapping on some sunscreen (SPF 50 jillion) and playing outside your spaceship in nothing but your birthday suit!

(The things you think about while trying to fall asleep... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif )

[Spoo]

Ah, but the lack of pressure would make you explode. Not pretty.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

we had a thread on that. you wouldn't explode, just suffocate.

[se5a]

and no, emptyspace itself does not heat up, gases do and solid objects do even more effectivly (depending on there reflective properties or lack of)

so being outside your spaceship without protection (apart from exploading) you would cook if you were in full sunlight.

I dont think being cold is realy much of a problem in space, being hot is the problem.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

depends how far from a sun you are.

[Taz-in-Space]

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[narf poit chez BOOM]

Yes, the SUPER-NOVA EXTREME may be hot, but is it long Lasting? will this model meet my needs?

i do have a solar system to heat, you know.

[ February 21, 2004, 05:33: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

[Atrocities]

We could always plug in a bunch of Cadet heaters into solor generators and set them adrift in the solor system. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Narrew]

Ok, this is what would happen, minus all the suffocating.

The side facing the sun will heat up, and the side facing deep space will radiate heat, your mission if you wish to accept it, is to move closer to the sun so that the middle part of your body is a normal 98.6 f. But I will not speculate the temperature of the part of your body that is on the sun side or the deep space side.

Reading about refining metals in space, the vacuum is a large help, they can have extreme temperature ranges with in a few feet. Of course Halliburton has yet to build their space exploiting space mill. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[Puke]

im not very smart, but this is how i understand it:

if you were about as far from the sun as we are now, and were hanging out naked in space, you would experience very fast moving particles eminating from the sun, slamming into you. they would heat you up very quickly, and if you were "mooning" the sun, you would very quickly have third degree burns on your back side.

due to the lack of pressure, you would most certainly embolize and i believe capilaries and things are supposed to burst. your body would actually retain heat since you dont have anything much to radiate it to, and you would keep getting hotter as the sun cooked you from the rear. but since there is no pressure in a vaccuum, you would freeze (i have seen videos of water in a vaccuum simultaniously boiling and freezing. bizzare.)

Things like the cells in your eyeballs (facing away from the sun) would explode as the water in them freezes and ruptures the cell walls. not that your eyeballs themselves would explode, but think of a serious case of freezer burn.

[Fyron]

Pressure is not the only thing to consider while out in space. The difference in relative concentrations of the system (you) and the environment (space, vacuum) is extreme. Stuff will want to diffuse from you out into space.

[Phoenix-D]

It will want to, but it won't have a very easy time of it. The concentration of water inside and outside a human body under normal conditions is a very high ratio too, for example. Skin is tough.

[Fyron]

But not nearly as great as the difference between matter and vacuum. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Phoenix-D]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
But not nearly as great as the difference between matter and vacuum. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'm walking around here occasionally with 1% humidity. That's a really frigging high gradient.

It helps that half the stuff your body does anyway is pump things against gradients. Not as extreme, but in vaccum you'll have other issues anyway. Tack on the layers of skin in between..and diffusion becomes a non-issue.

[Kamog]

is to move closer to the sun so that the middle part of your body is a normal 98.6 f. But I will not speculate the temperature of the part of your body that is on the sun side or the deep space side.<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Maybe you can rotate yourself so that your body is warmed evenly.

[Taz-in-Space]

Yes, the SUPER-NOVA EXTREME may be hot, but is it long Lasting? will this model meet my needs?

i do have a solar system to heat, you know.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, Narf; there IS a guarantee!

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[narf poit chez BOOM]

Originally posted by Taz-in-Space:
Yes, Narf; there IS a guarantee!

Guarantee: ACME stands behind the quality of our products and states that any entity that DIRECTLY EXPERIENCES the SUPER-NOVA EXTREME in action, and is afterward dis-satisfied with the level of heating experienced, will be refunded its full original purchase price! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif
Claims must be filed in person.

P.S. please read the following disclaimer:
ACME and its agents is not responsible for persons or property left too close to the heater. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif [/QB]<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">But how much will it cost? Is it expensive? I only have a few hundred thousand in Minerals, Organics and Radioactives!

[Taz-in-Space]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Taz-in-Space:
Yes, Narf; there IS a guarantee!

Guarantee: ACME stands behind the quality of our products and states that any entity that DIRECTLY EXPERIENCES the SUPER-NOVA EXTREME in action, and is afterward dis-satisfied with the level of heating experienced, will be refunded its full original purchase price!
Claims must be filed in person.

P.S. please read the following disclaimer:
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But how much will it cost? Is it expensive? I only have a few hundred thousand in Minerals, Organics and Radioactives!

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[Suicide Junkie]

From physics, a blackbody at 37 degrees C will radiate about 500 W/m²

If you take the surface area of a body as about 2m², that means you're losing 1000 J/s.

Take your weight in KG, and your body temprature should drop about one degree in (your weight in KG here) seconds.

For the non-metric among us: 1 KG = 2.205 pounds.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Originally posted by Taz-in-Space:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Taz-in-Space:
Yes, Narf; there IS a guarantee!

Guarantee: ACME stands behind the quality of our products and states that any entity that DIRECTLY EXPERIENCES the SUPER-NOVA EXTREME in action, and is afterward dis-satisfied with the level of heating experienced, will be refunded its full original purchase price!
Claims must be filed in person.

P.S. please read the following disclaimer:
ACME and its agents is not responsible for persons or property left too close to the heater. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

But how much will it cost? Is it expensive? I only have a few hundred thousand in Minerals, Organics and Radioactives!

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

That's the beauty of this model - you can retofit your current Space Heater to be a Super-Nova Deluxe via our Nucleonic Disruption technology! Yes! For only 200K minerals, prepaid.

Worried that one of your enem, Err, neighbors are too cold? Send THEM a Super-Nova Deluxe upgrade! And make sure they NEVER have heating worries again...

And, for only an additional 50K, we can include
a cloaking device to make it that 'suprise gift' you are just dying to give them!
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, sign me up for this exiting opportunity with the bonus cloaking device and send it to Master Belisarius, please! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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[Atrocities]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
We could always plug in a bunch of Cadet heaters into solor generators and set them adrift in the solor system. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I still think this is the best idea so far.