****PBW Status****

[geoschmo]

Having some problems this morning. Not sure exactly, but it probably won't be back up till this evening at the earliest.

Geoschmo

[ March 23, 2004, 16:14: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

[Cipher7071]

You mean I have to entertain myself with some actual programming today? I guess it had to happen sooner or later. I have some other stuff to do too...sigh

[Gandalph]

8:30 here in sunny Santa Cruz and PBW is up and down and slow, in other words, being very sporadic this morning.

[geoschmo]

Ok. Looks like it didn't take as long as I thought. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif It appears to be back up and running normally now. I have turned off auto-turns though just to be sure. If there are no additional problems I'll turn auto-turns back on this evening.

Geoschmo

[Slynky]

Originally posted by geoschmo:
Ok. Looks like it didn't take as long as I thought. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif It appears to be back up and running normally now. I have turned off auto-turns though just to be sure. If there are no additional problems I'll turn auto-turns back on this evening.

Geoschmo <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, was just getting ready to post the happy news myself. It came up a bit slower than usual, but given the choice of down or slow... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif .

[tesco samoa]

bump

[Greybeard]

It's 6:31 CST and I can't access the PBW site. So, I guess I'll submit my turn via email.

[Roanon]

down here too

[geoschmo]

Ok guys, the PBW IP address has changed. The DNS for our domain name hasn't caught up yet, that's why you can't reach the site this morning.

In the mean time you can still reach PBW directly at the new IP: http://69.81.92.70

Game news emails and new turn emails also won't work for the time being. Turns emailed to the server though will be received.

I have turned off automatic turns for anybody who doesn't happen to check this forum on a regular basis.

Geoschmo

[ March 23, 2004, 13:03: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

[geoschmo]

It appears the DNS has now caught up. I havn't yet tested teh email to see if that is working though. If not it should be soon.

[Atrocities]

Thanks Geoschmo. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Lord Chane]

Down for me also.

[Cyclop]

I've seen a dozen Viagra spams this morning, could we send some to the pbw server to keep it up?

[Gandalph]

Friday morning here and I got a couple of turns done, then tried to upload another turn and lost contact. It appears PBW is down again.

[Edward]

Yep. PWB server appears down, tried using the IP number and it failed as well.

[geoschmo]

Ya, cable's out. It's been reported, but no eta.

[geoschmo]

Ok, we know what the problem is. Should be back up in an hour or two at the most.

[geoschmo]

Ok, actually not that long. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

However, as a result of the down time, the IP address has been reset once again. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif You can reach PBW right now at http://69.81.92.216

I will get the DNS reset, but that may not happen till tommorow. Until then you will have to go direct to the IP and the email send features will not work. sigh, you know the drill. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

EDIT: By the way, I am not in a position to turn off the auto turns at the moment. They are on and have been on all day. I will get them off in the next hour or two and leave then off till the DNS is caught up. If you have a turn that ran in the mean time contact your game owner about having the turn rolled back.

[ March 26, 2004, 20:55: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

[Randallw]

As I stated in another thread, PBW just went down.

Edit: I'm a bit confused. Have I been using the original and now the replacement is on?, or have I been using the replacement and now the original is back?

[ March 27, 2004, 09:50: Message edited by: Randallw ]

[Cirvol]

ya, it looks like geo is upto mischief yet again http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

i'm sure it will be back soon as per usual

[Fyron]

Geoschmo, have you cosidered getting a service like www.no-ip.org (http://www.no-ip.org) , which has a program set to automatically update the IP address related to the domain name when your IP changes? It is great for hosting sites when you are on a connection that changes IP address periodically.

[Cipher7071]

8 AM EST, March 27. Still down. Internal Server Error, HTTP 500.

[Roanon]

No problems here, everything seems to work fine

[Cipher7071]

Yup. It's working now. Danke schon.

[Dubrok]

works again for me

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by Randallw:
Edit: I'm a bit confused. Have I been using the original and now the replacement is on?, or have I been using the replacement and now the original is back? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">There's only one Randall.

[AMF]

I take it Autoun is still off, eh?

ummm...come to think of it, I think it's time to donate to PBW again...

thanks,

Alarik

[AMF]

EDIT: I meant "AutoRun"...

Originally posted by alarikf:
I take it Autoun is still off, eh?

ummm...come to think of it, I think it's time to donate to PBW again...

thanks,

Alarik <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">

[geoschmo]

Auto turns are back on now.

[Edward]

Can anyone access the PBW server? Can not access it says unavailable. :-(

[Thermodyne]

Nope. Its down, can't get there by name or IP.

[Spoo]

Not working for me either.

[Slynky]

And I have a turn due... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif .

[Renegade 13]

Turns don't run while PBW is down do they? I sure hope not.....

[Slynky]

Originally posted by Renegade 13:
Turns don't run while PBW is down do they? I sure hope not..... <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No, they don't run...I'm just hoping Geo is as careful as ever when he gets it fixed and turns auto-processing off before he brings it up. I can't remember if the game in question is on auto or not.

[Roanon]

It the server is still running but just not reachable, it will process turns automatically as usual, unless Geo turns it off. As I understand it, he must have access to the server to do that, though. Games can be rolled back to the previous turn, though.
So all we have to do is to wait for Geo...

[Atrocities]

Perhaps if we could all aford to donate more Geo could get away from this hack ISP he has and Subscribe to one that is far more stable and user friendly.

[Slynky]

Originally posted by Roanon:
It the server is still running but just not reachable, it will process turns automatically as usual, unless Geo turns it off. As I understand it, he must have access to the server to do that, though. Games can be rolled back to the previous turn, though.
So all we have to do is to wait for Geo... <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I thought georgig wrote a routine for Geo to be put on the server some time back that pinged (something) and if it didn't get a reply, it switched autoturns off. Hmmmm.

[AMF]

excellent idea! I'm off to paypal to donate to PBW!!!

thanks,

Alarik

Originally posted by Atrocities:
Perhaps if we could all aford to donate more Geo could get away from this hack ISP he has and Subscribe to one that is far more stable and user friendly. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">

[tesco samoa]

I finally did my first donation a month ago.

20 dollars us..

Long time coming... And very bad of me

I will be doing another 30 dollars in May

Does any one want to match ?

[AMF]

bah. Just did.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif [/busting tesco's chops]

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
[b] I finally did my first donation a month ago.

20 dollars us..

Long time coming... And very bad of me

I will be doing another 30 dollars in May

Does any one want to match ? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">

[AMF]

Hey, it's back up!

(10:34 PM EST)

[geoschmo]

Yep, it's back up. I have auto turns off now, but I can't guarantee that no turns ran in the mean time. I don't think they did though because the server wasn't just offline, it was actually down this time.

Back up and running now. If anyone has any issues, let me know.

Originally posted by Slynky:
I thought georgig wrote a routine for Geo to be put on the server some time back that pinged (something) and if it didn't get a reply, it switched autoturns off. Hmmmm. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Nope, he said he could do it, but he never got around to it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Grandpa Kim]

So lets all pitch in and buy georgig a round-to-it! *groan*

[Katchoo]

Getting an 'Internal Server Error' from PBW now (1:55pm EST).

EDIT: ...And now it's fixed itself. Hooray for automation!

[ April 12, 2004, 17:54: Message edited by: Katchoo ]

[se5a]

getting error:

Error: 500
Location: /graphic/games.jsp
Internal Servlet Error:

javax.servlet.ServletException
at org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.service(JspSe rvlet.java:508)
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet .java:853)
at org.apache.tomcat.core.ServletWrapper.doService(Se rvletWrapper.java:405)
at org.apache.tomcat.core.Handler.service(Handler.jav a:287)
at org.apache.tomcat.core.ServletWrapper.service(Serv letWrapper.java:372)
at org.apache.tomcat.core.ContextManager.internalServ ice(ContextManager.java:797)
at org.apache.tomcat.core.ContextManager.service(Cont extManager.java:743)
at org.apache.tomcat.service.connector.Ajp13Connectio nHandler.processConnection(Ajp13ConnectionHandler. java:160)
at org.apache.tomcat.service.TcpWorkerThread.runIt(Po olTcpEndpoint.java:416)
at org.apache.tomcat.util.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable. run(ThreadPool.java:501)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)

Root cause:
java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
<>

[se5a]

cant send my turn in, are auto turns still off?

[geoschmo]

I am not seeing any problem with the site. I can submit turns fine. Is it still doing it to you?

Auto turns are on.

Geoschmo

[Roanon]

Originally posted by se5a:

Error: 500
Location: /graphic/games.jsp
Internal Servlet Error:
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Try the text-based PBW. I always get a similar error when trying to undo my turn in graphic-based pbw, but text-based works. May help you too.

[se5a]

no, I tryed text as well, got the same error.
its working now though.

[Roanon]

Originally posted by geoschmo:
Auto turns are on.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Are auto turns off now? NGC 4 is about an hour past deadline and still not processing.

[tesco samoa]

stuff looks fine to me

what are you using for a browser

[Intimidator]

I can't reach the PBW-site, is it down or is it my provider ??

Intimidator

[Unknown_Enemy]

it's down. We'll have to wait for Geoschmo to finish his night (Why the hell should he need to sleep in the first place ????? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

[ April 17, 2004, 10:11: Message edited by: Unknown_Enemy ]

[Electrum]

Originally posted by Unknown_Enemy:
it's down. We'll have to wait for Geoschmo to finish his night (Why the hell should he need to sleep in the first place ????? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Maybe if you type louder he will wake up. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[taterbill]

Geo, can you give us an update?

Thanks!

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Originally posted by Edward:
Gee... Give the man a break, he might have had a late night. He does a great job keeping the server up and running 24/7, especially since he does not profit from running the system for our benifit. That reminds me time to make another donation to the fund. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Carefull with that. (http://www.paypalsucks.org)

[geoschmo]

Sorry guys, I didn't even know there was a problem till just now. I've been doing the family stuff all day. I kicked it, looks like it's ok now.

Geoschmo

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Originally posted by geoschmo:
Sorry guys, I didn't even know there was a problem till just now. I've been doing the family stuff all day. I kicked it, looks like it's ok now.

Geoschmo <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ok, thanks. Don't worry about the whining.

[Aiken]

Geoschmo, I'd like to say you too many thanks to post 'em here, so I'll probably send you a mail. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[taterbill]

Hmmm... I'm still getting a DNS error...

Is it just me?

[TerranC]

Originally posted by taterbill:
Hmmm... I'm still getting a DNS error...

Is it just me? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Could be just you; It worked fine for me when I logged on 5 minutes ago.

[taterbill]

What's the PBW raw IP again?

Thanks,

Bill

[Intimidator]

The sun is already up in the states, so time for him to wake up.............


Inti,

[Edward]

Gee... Give the man a break, he might have had a late night. He does a great job keeping the server up and running 24/7, especially since he does not profit from running the system for our benifit. That reminds me time to make another donation to the fund.

[Intimidator]

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[taterbill]

OK, I've tried www.pbw.cc, (http://www.pbw.cc,) seiv.pbw.cc, and the raw IP http://69.81.92.70, and I still can't get in...

Am I the only one who can't?

Arrrgh!

[Slynky]

I just got in. Not sure what your problem is, Tater... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif

[taterbill]

Geo,

Is http://69.81.92.70 still the raw IP, or is it something else now? I'm thinking it has to be a bad DNS server, and I'm hitting the wrong IP.

Thx

[taterbill]

OK, apparently the raw IP is 69.81.92.216, but that's not helping:

C:\Documents and Settings\Bill>ping www.pbw.cc (http://www.pbw.cc)

Pinging seiv.pbw.cc [69.81.92.216] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 69.81.92.216:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

C:\Documents and Settings\Bill>ping 69.81.92.70

Pinging 69.81.92.70 with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 69.81.92.70:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

C:\Documents and Settings\Bill>ping www.pbw.cc (http://www.pbw.cc)

Pinging seiv.pbw.cc [69.81.92.216] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 69.81.92.216:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

C:\Documents and Settings\Bill>ping 69.81.92.216

Pinging 69.81.92.216 with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 69.81.92.216:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

[David E. Gervais]

not that it will help, but I just played my PBW turn and everything is working fine for me. I have the same IP you posted. precisly, the web page I log in at is..

http://69.81.92.216/graphic/index.jsp (http://69.81.92.216/graphic/index.jsp)

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Slynky]

I'm really taking a wild guess, tater, but what the heck.

If you have a firewall, make sure you didn't accidently block the IP.

[taterbill]

Thanks Slynky, but that was the first thing I checked...

I'm not even getting to the host-side name server. Something is misconfigured somewhere that is denying access from my ISP. I had a tech support rep at Qwest DSL tech support try getting on, and he couldn't either. Here's a traceroute...

TraceRoute to 69.81.92.216 [www.pbw.cc]

Hop (ms) (ms) (ms) IP Address Host name
1 0 0 0 66.46.176.3 -
2 0 0 0 216.191.97.41 pos5-3.core1-mtl.bb.allstream.net
3 0 0 15 216.191.65.173 pos2-1.core2-tor.bb.allstream.net
4 0 15 0 216.191.65.243 srp2-0.gwy1-tor.bb.allstream.net
5 16 15 32 12.125.142.5 -
6 16 15 32 12.123.5.218 gbr5-p80.cgcil.ip.att.net
7 16 16 15 12.123.6.65 ggr2-p310.cgcil.ip.att.net
8 47 203 203 66.185.132.97 pop2-chi-p5-3.atdn.net
9 31 16 31 66.185.148.64 bb1-chi-p1-0.atdn.net
10 32 15 47 66.185.153.51 bb1-cin-p3-0.atdn.net
11 31 47 16 66.185.133.1 pop1-cin-p0-0.atdn.net
12 31 15 32 66.185.133.10 rr-cincinnati.atdn.net
13 32 15 31 65.25.128.242 pos10-0.dytnoh1-rtr1.woh.rr.com
14 31 47 31 24.29.161.154 srp1-0.kttroh1-ubr2.woh.rr.com
15 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
16 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
17 Timed out Timed out Timed out -
18 Timed out Timed out Timed out -

Trace aborted.


Geo, could you maybe ask your host admins to take a look? Please?


Edit: spelling

[ April 18, 2004, 20:31: Message edited by: taterbill ]

[taterbill]

Also, would somebody do me the favor of looking at the 3-Planet Quickstart and (New) Galactic Combat 4 games and seeing if my turns were received via email. I've never used email submission before and just want to make sure I didn't screw anything up.

Thanks!

TaterBill

[Slynky]

Originally posted by taterbill:
Also, would somebody do me the favor of looking at the 3-Planet Quickstart and (New) Galactic Combat 4 games and seeing if my turns were received via email. I've never used email submission before and just want to make sure I didn't screw anything up.

Thanks!

TaterBill <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I show your turned successfully emailed:

Apr 18, 2004 4:46:10 PM EDT

[taterbill]

Thanks mucho, Slynky, I appreciate it!

[taterbill]

Oh, hey, I see you get a confirmation when you email your turn. Cool! Shows how little I know...

[geoschmo]

Yeah, I don't have a clue Tater, but it will probalby clear up in a day or two.

[ April 18, 2004, 23:19: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

[geoschmo]

Ok guys, looks like we are down. Not sure what's wrong. Probably going to be this evening before I can get a good look at it.

Geoschmo

[Joachim]

Originally posted by geoschmo:
Ok guys, looks like we are down. Not sure what's wrong. Probably going to be this evening before I can get a good look at it.

Geoschmo <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Whimper, I just finally got the two lads in bed and asleep - log on and.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Oh well. Time for some Day of Defeat then.
Thanks for the update Geo.

[geoschmo]

Ack, never mind. I did a quick reboot and everything appears ok now. Not sure what was going on, but I'll keep an eye on it.

[Slynky]

I just got to it.

[tesco samoa]

looks good to me

[Deathstalker]

Is anyone having trouble uploading stuff to the PBW site?? I'm having trouble uploading an update to the Gold-D-2 mod. Just a small data zip (not even 400kb). Starts to upload but never finishes....(or times out).

anyone??

[PvK]

I didn't have any trouble uploading a PBW file but that was a couple hours ago IIRC and it was a rather small file of course.

PvK

[JurijD]

Originally posted by geoschmo:
Are you having the problem with the graphic or text ui. Have you tried both? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I tried both Graphics and Text ui on different computers and I get the same error report on both.
The game name is "3rd Cross-galaxy Transwarp access hub"

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by Deathstalker:
Is anyone having trouble uploading stuff to the PBW site?? I'm having trouble uploading an update to the Gold-D-2 mod. Just a small data zip (not even 400kb). Starts to upload but never finishes....(or times out).

anyone?? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It is in .zip format and not .rar or something like that, correct?

[JurijD]

Yes, I'm having problems uploading my player file. I get this error report:

--------------
Error: 500
Location: /GameUpload
Internal Servlet Error:

java.lang.NullPointerException
at cc.dpf.pbw.servlet.seiv.GameUpload.processRequest( GameUpload.java:222)
at cc.dpf.pbw.servlet.seiv.GameUpload.doPost(GameUplo ad.java:288)
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet .java:760)
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet .java:853)
at org.apache.tomcat.core.ServletWrapper.doService(Se rvletWrapper.java:405)
at org.apache.tomcat.core.Handler.service(Handler.jav a:287)
at org.apache.tomcat.core.ServletWrapper.service(Serv letWrapper.java:372)
at org.apache.tomcat.core.ContextManager.internalServ ice(ContextManager.java:797)
at org.apache.tomcat.core.ContextManager.service(Cont extManager.java:743)
at org.apache.tomcat.service.connector.Ajp13Connectio nHandler.processConnection(Ajp13ConnectionHandler. java:160)
at org.apache.tomcat.service.TcpWorkerThread.runIt(Po olTcpEndpoint.java:416)
at org.apache.tomcat.util.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable. run(ThreadPool.java:501)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)

------------

It happened when I uploaded my .plr file ... then realised I forgot to do something and un-did the turn. When I tried to upload the new .plr file I got the error. I've been trying to upload for 2 hours now... I'm constantly getting this error ever since.

what gives?

[ April 23, 2004, 12:36: Message edited by: JurijD ]

[geoschmo]

Are you having the problem with the graphic or text ui. Have you tried both?

[JurijD]

erm, I know u´re bussy geo but my turn deadline is approaching and I´d really like to get this resolved as its very annoying.

Nothing seems to work, I even tried to resign from the game and then sign in from a new account I created.... but I still got the same error report.

the reason has to be on the PBW server, I´m sure of it. If u want I can resign from the game and u can sign in and try and upload something, u´ll prolly get the same error report.

wanna try this?

[ April 24, 2004, 09:53: Message edited by: JurijD ]

[Atrocities]

what web browser are you using? If you using anything other than IE I would try IE and see if the errors continue.

Most of the time I have to use IE to join or accept players.

If your using IE then switch to something else like netscape to upload files from. A while back I could not download or upload anything to PBW and it was because of an MS update for IE. It totally invalidated my install of IE and no matter what I did I could not get my upload or downloads to work for PBW.

It was not PBW, it was an IE thing so try that first. Good luck.

[JurijD]

I´m using IE
So what u are saying... if I´m not using IE I should use it and if I am using it I should not:)

hehehe, kinday funny. Ok I´ll try something else.... what do you propose?

[geoschmo]

We're jsut trying to figure out what your problem is Juri. Some people have problems with other browsers, but you should be pretty safe usign IE all the time. I don't know why you are getting this error when nobody else is. Do you have all your javascript settings turned off or something?

[JurijD]

read the post above please.... I clicked on post twice http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ April 24, 2004, 14:17: Message edited by: JurijD ]

[JurijD]

Originally posted by geoschmo:
We're jsut trying to figure out what your problem is Juri. Some people have problems with other browsers, but you should be pretty safe usign IE all the time. I don't know why you are getting this error when nobody else is. Do you have all your javascript settings turned off or something? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ok here´s the deal: Yesterday I uploaded my turn file at around 12:00 GMT. Then I realised I forgot to do something and I un-did my turn. 5 min later as I tried to upload my turn again I got that error I posted below. I´ve been getting it ever since.
1. I tried everything I could think of. I resigned from the game and then joined again (easy to do as I am the game host)
2. I tried resigning and then joining back using another account I created
3. I tried uploading from 3 different computers (win 98, 2000, xp, different IE Versions)
4. I even got 2 friends of mine to try and upload it. (one from New Zeeland and one from Slovenia) they both said the page just "clouldn´t upload the file ... the download went on forever and never finished" but they didn´t get the error report which is strange

Nothing worked, every time the same error report appears.

Therefore I don´t think it has to do with my browser-related settings (browser type, settings, updates etc.) because I didn´t change my browser in those 5 min.... and the thing won´t upload on any of the other computers I tried.

take a look at that error report I posted, It says something about a servlet error or something, that has to be server based and not remote-client based....

maybe something went wrong with that turn I un-did and now the server doesn´t want to accept another one on top of that....


anyways thanks heaps for the help.

[ April 24, 2004, 14:20: Message edited by: JurijD ]

[JurijD]

the PBW server appears to be offline ATM, I can´t even open the page.

[Grandpa Kim]

Yup. I'm getting connection refused.

[Slynky]

It was down a good chunk of Last Saturday, too. Geo was busy with family and didn't notice till late in the afternoon.

[Renegade 13]

I also can not get into PBW.

[Fyron]

What browser are you using JurijD? This problem is most definitely browser related... (well, not the server being down the other one http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) PBW was designed explicitly for IE. It does not work well in other browsers (at least, some functions).

[ April 24, 2004, 18:29: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[capnq]

Other suggestions for Juri to try when PBW comes back up:

1) Clear your browser's Cache, or 2) reboot your computer.

[Grandpa Kim]

3. I tried uploading from 3 different computers (win 98, 2000, xp, different IE Versions)
4. I even got 2 friends of mine to try and upload it. (one from New Zeeland and one from Slovenia) they both said the page just "clouldn´t upload the file ... <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sounds to me like it is the .plr file that is the problem, NOT the browser. Is it reasonable to play the turn again? If you can, try to upload the new .plr file.

[freduk]

I can't access it either.
when I trace the IP, I get timed out.
I trace via amsterdam, london, NY, chicago and get timed out on the connection that comes after srp1-0.kttroh1-ubr2.woh.rr.com.
How does this work for you jurij? (type tracert seiv.pbw.cc in MSDOS)

[geoschmo]

Well, it's back up now. I did something really really stupid and I'll thank everyone not to ask me about it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[geoschmo]

Juri, I have turned off auto processing so your turn should not run just yet. If you still can't get the .plr file to upload, email it to me and I'll give it a try. You don't have to withdraw from teh game, but tell me what game it is. I couldn't find it in the eariler Posts.

[Fyron]

Originally posted by geoschmo:
Well, it's back up now. I did something really really stupid and I'll thank everyone not to ask me about it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">What did you do? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[trooper]

You've spoken too much : Confess and Repent !

[ April 24, 2004, 21:53: Message edited by: trooper ]

[Aiken]

Send your turn by e-mail.

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
What browser are you using JurijD? This problem is most definitely browser related... (well, not the server being down the other one http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) PBW was designed explicitly for IE. It does not work well in other browsers (at least, some functions). <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I brought this up already and he said he is using IE. Leave it to MS to muck up PBW for a guy.

[Roanon]

Maybe he should try to NOT use IE... if it doesn not work with any Version of IE it *might* be a bit rash to conclude that it will only work with IE...
Except for a few javascript commands that work only with IE (and are not recommended to use anyway) there should be no problem when using any other brother than IE.

The real problem might be, though, a corrupt database or invalid entry - undo turn only half done with some flags still set that make PBW refuse to accept a new turn, for instance. But this could only be solved by Geo himself, and may not be simple.

[tesco samoa]

Geo it is the game

3rd Cross-galaxy Transwarp access Hub

player number 1

and it is on automatic turns..

Yuri... I suggest you place the game on no auto until resolved.

Another suggestion is to email your turn to some one and your login and password to pbw ( set up a temp one )

And see if they can upload it with no problems

I will do that if you like seiv at symaptico dot ca.

[tesco samoa]

I see geo already suggested that... So it must be a good suggestion... email either of us or both of us http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[geoschmo]

I was able to log in as Juri and upload a turn, so there is no problem with the server. Of course the problem could have been server related and be rebooting it today might have fixed it. I suppose if Juri is able to upload ok now then that's what it was.

It's possible it's someting to do with the specific .plr file you are trying to upload, but I think that is unlikely. PBW doesn't do anysort of file verification, other then to make sure it has the right name. You could upload an empty file and PBW would take it if it had the right name. I can't imagine why that would cause 500 error.

Geoschmo

[Atrocities]

In case it hasn't been said lately, thank you Geoschmo for all the work you do with PBW. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif It is perhaps the most appreciated SEIV related thing any one can do, and you do it very well. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[JurijD]

I also tried to upload "a" turn from another game that I renamed "transwarp_0001.plr"; and it worked. I guess the .plr file must be currupt in some way. I´ll redo my turn and try and upload it again.

thanks for the help.

[JurijD]

Ok, I did my turn again and the new .plr file generated uploads withouth any difficulty. That means that the PBW server is in some way sensitive to "corrupt" files...maybe it does some other checkig besides the name of the file..

anyways thanks for the help again. cya

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by JurijD:
Ok, I did my turn again and the new .plr file generated uploads withouth any difficulty. That means that the PBW server is in some way sensitive to "corrupt" files...maybe it does some other checkig besides the name of the file..

anyways thanks for the help again. cya <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, it might be that. But did you actually try uploading your original .plr file again after the server got rebooted? If not then we can't say definitevly what the problem was. It may have been a server problem like you suspected, but only limited to your game or something. Either way though, I guess the important thing is it's working now.

Geoschmo

[Roanon]

Originally posted by geoschmo:
I guess the important thing is it's working now.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Amen http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

And thanks, Geo. Are auto-turns back on?

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by Roanon:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by geoschmo:
I guess the important thing is it's working now.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Amen http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

And thanks, Geo. Are auto-turns back on? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Not yet. I'll do that later this evening. I want to make sure everybody is caught up.

[AMF]

I think PBW is down at the moment (11AM, EST, Sunday May 2nd). At least I can't get to it, maybe it's just me.

thanks,

Alarik

[ddaavvee72]

I can't access the site either.

[Slynky]

I just got in.

[AMF]

Really. Hmm. Strange. I still can't get in, and I didnt do anything to my system from late Last night to this AM, so I can't figure it would be me...but, no big deal. It's a nice day, better probably for me to go sit on the porch and have a beer in the sun, and do some relaxing out of doors anyways...I'm sure PBW will be accessible later...

thanks,

Alarik

EDIT: spelling

Originally posted by Slynky:
I just got in. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">

[ May 02, 2004, 15:51: Message edited by: alarikf ]

[Roanon]

It works for me also, looks like the problem is on your side.

[Loser]

It seems that PbW has taken a more active stance on its hate for Hotmail, and it currently trying to kill my account. I have recieved the five hundred kilobyte new turn for NGC5 five, count them five times so far today.

First two times in ten minutes at around five this morning, then three times in fifteen minutes just now.

Not sure what might be done about this, but it is somewhat vexing.

[geoschmo]

We haven't changed anything in the code. I am not sure what's up with this Hotmail problem. I got several hundred email bounces again this weekend. As far as I know PBW does not attempt to resend an email if it fails the first time. Although I cannot say for sure that the service we use to send emails doesn't do that. Just like a person, once you send an email and it gets to your isp, you don't have any control over what happens then.

I don't really understand what's going on. It definetly seems limited to people with Hotmail accounts though, as far as I have heard.

[Loser]

Seven times now, although since I can really only fit tow of them in the account, there's no telling how many additional times it's tried to cram one of them in there.

Still, I understand if there isn't much that can be done about it.

[AMF]

Does it have anything to do with Sasser?

My hotmail has been apparently unaffected, FWIW.

Originally posted by Loser:
Seven times now, although since I can really only fit tow of them in the account, there's no telling how many additional times it's tried to cram one of them in there.

Still, I understand if there isn't much that can be done about it. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">

[Loser]

Originally posted by alarikf:
Does it have anything to do with Sasser?

My hotmail has been apparently unaffected, FWIW.<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">"Sasser"?

Not sure what that is.

But it's only NGC5 that's doing it right now, so it might have something to do with the game as well.

Unless we coudl follow every one all the way through, or unless I posted all the header information and someone interpreted it, we're going to have a bit of a time pinning any of that down.

[Atrocities]

I don't know if this matters or not, but I have received two virus emails today claiming to be from admin@pbw which I know is not true.

In other words I know that pbw did not send them. I really hope that one day that the person or persons responible for these viruses and other nasty pest come into some harm. Like loosing the ability to use their fingers or something.

[ May 04, 2004, 22:18: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[Baron Grazic]

Originally posted by Loser:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by alarikf:
Does it have anything to do with Sasser?

My hotmail has been apparently unaffected, FWIW.<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">"Sasser"?

Not sure what that is.

</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sasser is the Lastest Virus to be doing the rounds. Much like the MSBLast Virus, it sends packets to random IP addresses to effect other MS computers. It is not an Email Virus.

[Roanon]

Affects only WIN2k and WIN XP computers. Uses a bug (or deliberatly build-in feature of M$ to spy on you?) in the system, you don't need to open an email or use a browser.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
I don't know if this matters or not, but I have received two virus emails today claiming to be from admin@pbw which I know is not true.

In other words I know that pbw did not send them. I really hope that one day that the person or persons responible for these viruses and other nasty pest come into some harm. Like loosing the ability to use their fingers or something. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I got one supposedly from Eric Flint. And I KNOW he doesn't have my email address. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

EF is a baen auther. Very good one.

[JurijD]

I can't open the PBW site. Page not found error.

[Loser]

I'm getting the "did you get that memo?" act from PbW again.

Fortunately, two of the Proportions savegames won't fit in the inbox, so I'll just leave one in there for a day or two to take up space.

Anyone else have this issue?

[Grandpa Kim]

Here's another:

http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=011620

[capnq]

it's only NGC5 that's doing it right now<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'm in NGC5 also, but I'm not getting any duplicate mails.

[Loser]

Originally posted by capnq:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana"> it's only NGC5 that's doing it right now<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'm in NGC5 also, but I'm not getting any duplicate mails. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, it isn't NGC5 or PbW itself I'm sure. NGC5 calmed down for me, but Proportions is up to eight copies now. Unfortunately a friend has been trying to get a large e-mail to me today, so I can't just let the PbW e-mails fill my box so they stop showing up.

[edit: make that nine.]

[ May 05, 2004, 20:29: Message edited by: Loser ]

[parabolize]

Originally posted by Loser:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by capnq:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana"> it's only NGC5 that's doing it right now<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'm in NGC5 also, but I'm not getting any duplicate mails. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, it isn't NGC5 or PbW itself I'm sure. NGC5 calmed down for me, but Proportions is up to eight copies now. Unfortunately a friend has been trying to get a large e-mail to me today, so I can't just let the PbW e-mails fill my box so they stop showing up.

[edit: make that nine.] </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You know that you can tell pbw to not send the turn with the emails right?

[Loser]

Originally posted by parabolize:
You know that you can tell pbw to not send the turn with the emails right? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">yeah, but then it won't do it for any of them, and I do like getting the e-mail notifications.

(ten now)

[edit: make that thirteen]

[ May 05, 2004, 21:01: Message edited by: Loser ]

[Suicide Junkie]

Does anybody know if there is a way to completely disable the sending of "new turn available" emails?

Especially since starting the SJmod beta games, I'm getting pages and pages of the Messages between each check of my email.

[Loser]

I've turned off the 'send me the whole turn' option and it's still popping up in my Inbox. The whole, four hundred seventy-one kilobytes of it.

I'm up to twenty now. I have been sent twenty half-meg e-mails today. I wonder if Hotmail is going to get ticked at me about this. (Not worried, of course, just curious.)

[Grandpa Kim]

Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:
Does anybody know if there is a way to completely disable the sending of "new turn available" emails? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">From the PBW home page choose "My Options". There's a check box in there that should work.

[Suicide Junkie]

I only see the box for not including the turn file with the notification... (which I already have had unchecked for years now)

Not an option to eliminate the notifications entirely.

[Loser]

I turned off the 'send turn with notificaiton' part and I'm still getting them. I'm up to twenty-five now. I don't think turning the whole thing off, which I can't find a way to do either, will stop whatever is causing my problem.

[AMF]

It really looks like the god of computer chaos has decided to visit you...don't take this the wrong way, but from a bystander perspective it's almost amusing to watch this whole evolution. Maybe you offended hotmail somehow? Perhaps sacrificing a goat to the hotmail god would help? My sympathies...


Originally posted by Loser:
I turned off the 'send turn with notificaiton' part and I'm still getting them. I'm up to twenty-five now. I don't think turning the whole thing off, which I can't find a way to do either, will stop whatever is causing my problem. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">

[Loser]

Hmm... it might have stopped. It's been a couple hours since the Last one and I'm only up to twenty-six or -seven.

[geoschmo]

I was doing some work on it this morning. Should be ok now.

[AMF]

It's just lulling you into a false sense of security.

Just wait.

You'll see.

Originally posted by Loser:
Hmm... it might have stopped. It's been a couple hours since the Last one and I'm only up to twenty-six or -seven. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Originally posted by Loser:
I turned off the 'send turn with notificaiton' part and I'm still getting them. I'm up to twenty-five now. I don't think turning the whole thing off, which I can't find a way to do either, will stop whatever is causing my problem. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hmm...cancel the hotmail account and get a new one?

[David E. Gervais]

Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:
Does anybody know if there is a way to completely disable the sending of "new turn available" emails?

Especially since starting the SJmod beta games, I'm getting pages and pages of the Messages between each check of my email. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Can't your e-mail software block out (filter) Messages by subject matter? If so, just filter any e-mails with the phrase "new turn available" in the subject heading.

Just a thought, Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Atrocities]

I am not sure if I should report this or not, but I have not been recieving notices of new turns becoming available.

Its not important or anything, but still I thought I should mention it so if it is old news please forgive my post.

[Loser]

Originally posted by alarikf:
It's just lulling you into a false sense of security.

Just wait.

You'll see.<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, I've gotten 'new turn' notices for the other games I'm in, with no attatchemnts. Hotmail cleared out the Deleted Items overnight, but I'm pretty sure I wasn't any furhter than twenty-seven or twenty-eight.