OT: Sky Captain and the World of Tommorow... [Archive]

geoschmo

March 15th, 2004, 09:01 PM

Saw a trailer for this movie coming soon. Looks slightly interesting. Allthough at this point it's hard to say it won't simply be two hours of eye-candy with no discernable plot. On the plus side it's steampunk, so it's got that going for it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

But one major early gripe, why rip-off the theme song from Stargate? There aren't enough out of work composers that they couldn't get an original orchestral work? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

tesco samoa

March 15th, 2004, 09:20 PM

will check that out.

hell boy looks like a 2 hour slam fest...

atari_eric

March 15th, 2004, 10:03 PM

From what I've seen from half the Posts at Slashdot, producers tend to "borrow" themes from other movies for trailers, because often the real scores aren't recorded yet.

gregebowman

March 15th, 2004, 10:17 PM

Originally posted by atari_eric:
From what I've seen from half the Posts at Slashdot, producers tend to "borrow" themes from other movies for trailers, because often the real scores aren't recorded yet. From what I know of movie soundtracks, this is true. Some composers, like my favorite, John Williams, will wait until the movie is complete and edited, then sit through a viewing and compose the movie afterwards. Other composers do it different ways. So there may be a soundtrack yet to go with the trailer.

dogscoff

March 15th, 2004, 10:38 PM

Saw trailer for that sky thing, and I have to agree: Looks like a standard spesheffex fest with a partially redeeming steam-tech theme.

After the League of Exyawnary Gentlemen I guess Steam tech is in.

However I did see a ciple of trailers that look really good: One looked like a remake of Dawn of the Dead, and the other was some kind of genre-spoof named Shawn of the Dead which looked utterly hilarious...

Atrocities

March 16th, 2004, 12:08 AM

I will reserve judgement until after I see it.

narf poit chez BOOM

March 16th, 2004, 05:30 AM

i will reserve seeing it until i see reports here. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Randallw

March 16th, 2004, 09:05 AM

Did you know the director of Sky captain is the same guy who wrote the software to do the background effects. It's supposed to be a new system where you just put together the movie and then stick the actors in where they are needed. I've seen a trailer for it, and personally I think it just looks like game cutscreens with known actors.

General Woundwort

March 16th, 2004, 12:46 PM

I've seen the trailer twice in the theatres, and I still can't figure out WTH it's supposed to be about, or why I should spend $5-8 to go see it. The appeal of steampunk is lost on me. I'll just save the money for the extended edition of ROTK... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

gregebowman

March 16th, 2004, 07:57 PM

Originally posted by Randallw:
Did you know the director of Sky captain is the same guy who wrote the software to do the background effects. It's supposed to be a new system where you just put together the movie and then stick the actors in where they are needed. I've seen a trailer for it, and personally I think it just looks like game cutscreens with known actors. Just heard something on Glenn Beck this morning. Apparently, this guy was creating the movie one frame at a time at his own home in Michigan before some Hollywood producer saw it and bankrolled him. Apparently he had been working on this since the early 90's, and had only 6 minutes of movie done. But it was enough for this producer. He was moved to an off-Hollywood studio. The 6 minute film was shown to some actors, and Jude Law and Gwyneth Paltrow signed up. Sounds like another Hollywood success story, if only the movie lives up to the hype.

Deathstalker

March 17th, 2004, 02:21 AM

Gotta admit though, after seeing Angela Jole in that military outfit she'd make a great Honor Harrington if they ever did an Honor movie http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Caduceus

March 17th, 2004, 02:35 AM

I must say I hadn't heard anything about Sky Captain until I saw the trailer in the theater a few months ago (along with Pitch Black's sequel). I was waiting after the first thirty seconds for someone to "snap out" of a dream sequence.

In regards to the theme musics, there are about ten or so pieces which you'll hear over and over again for various trailers, depending on the company releasing the picture. Over the Last few years, I've noticed a few recurrent ones:
Stargate - main theme
"Bishop's Countdown" from Aliens
The Patriot - theme

I'm sure you all know more too. But for the most part, it is a.) cheaper and b.) often the composer isn't involved at the point the trailer is released or he/she is working on the film and can't be troubled with a trailer.

Wildcard

narf poit chez BOOM

March 17th, 2004, 07:36 AM

Originally posted by Deathstalker:
Gotta admit though, after seeing Angela Jole in that military outfit she'd make a great Honor Harrington if they ever did an Honor movie http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif i was thinking that to.

HH is tall, though, so they'd have to do some camera tricks because i'm pretty sure AJ is short.

Join the FAAA! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

dogscoff

March 17th, 2004, 09:42 AM

HH is tall, though, so they'd have to do some camera tricks because i'm pretty sure AJ is short.
Just make sure every actor cast alongside her is even shorter. And that the sets are built to 90% scale =-)

narf poit chez BOOM

March 17th, 2004, 09:46 AM

well, they did a good job with that with lotr, but they only had a few really short characters played by short people. i think it might be impracticle to do the reverse.

General Woundwort

March 17th, 2004, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
well, they did a good job with that with lotr, but they only had a few really short characters played by short people. i think it might be impracticle to do the reverse. Actually, John Rhys-Davies (aka Gimli the Dwarf) is over 6' tall. None of the actors who played hobbits are below "normal" size either.

narf poit chez BOOM

March 17th, 2004, 11:22 AM

i guess they did a very good job if they got me thinking that, then. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

why qoute if the post your replying to is right below? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif

[ March 17, 2004, 09:24: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

General Woundwort

March 17th, 2004, 12:19 PM

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
why qoute if the post your replying to is right below? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif You never know if someone is going to "jump in" and get their post in before you do. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

narf poit chez BOOM

March 17th, 2004, 12:35 PM

in which case, you can go onto the next topic you have tabbed, read that one, check the previous one and if so, then qoute using cut and paste.
Originally posted by General Woundwort:
You never know if someone is going to "jump in" and get their post in before you do. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif [/QB]like so. my method aviods unnessasary clutter. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ March 17, 2004, 10:57: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

TerranC

March 17th, 2004, 10:17 PM

Originally posted by gregebowman:
I don't think John Rhys-Davies would be considered short. Indeed; I don't think anyone would consider 6 foot 1 (185 cm) short.

narf poit chez BOOM

March 18th, 2004, 02:25 AM

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
i guess they did a very good job if they got me thinking that, then. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif you guys must have missed that.

Atrocities

March 18th, 2004, 02:27 AM

John Rhys-Davies would make a great Pultmier (sp) if any of the Clive Custler "Dirk Pitt" novels were made into movies.

(Raise the Titanic does not count, that was a horrible movie)

gregebowman

March 18th, 2004, 02:45 AM

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
well, they did a good job with that with lotr, but they only had a few really short characters played by short people. i think it might be impracticle to do the reverse. I don't think John Rhys-Davies would be considered short. IIRC, he was about the same height as Harrison Ford in the Indiana Jones movies. If you saw a short Gimli, it was usually from behind. They only used his face for close-ups.

sachmo

March 18th, 2004, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by Deathstalker:
Gotta admit though, after seeing Angela Jole in that military outfit she'd make a great Honor Harrington if they ever did an Honor movie http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif My thought is that she's to sexual to be Honor. I picture someone a bit plainer, but pretty. Like the girl from Lost in Translation maybe?

Pictures (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0424060/)

[ March 18, 2004, 15:25: Message edited by: sachmo ]

gregebowman

March 18th, 2004, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by Atrocities:
John Rhys-Davies would make a great Pultmier (sp) if any of the Clive Custler "Dirk Pitt" novels were made into movies.

(Raise the Titanic does not count, that was a horrible movie) You may get your wish. I don't know about Rhys-Davies, but Clive Cussler has given permission for one of his novels to be made into a movie. I forgot which one it was, but I read this not too long ago.

(and I agree with you, Raise the Titanic stunk to high heaven. Although I wonder, if they ever do a remake, how would they raise the Titanic in it's current state?)

geoschmo

March 18th, 2004, 06:08 PM

They made Raise the Titanic into a movie? I read that book. If it's the same one I'm thinking of. It was interesting. Read it years ago, back before Ballard found the actual Titanic. That was the first place I had heard about the Y2K bug. It was an interesting bit of background for one of the characters, that supposedly he made his fortune figuring out how to fix all those computers in time. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Edit: Ah, never mind. The book I read was not Cusslers novel, but was The Ghost From the Grand Banks by but Arthur C Clarke. Kind of the same idea I guess. But without the spy story underpinning.

[ March 18, 2004, 16:20: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

gregebowman

March 18th, 2004, 08:05 PM

Originally posted by geoschmo:
They made Raise the Titanic into a movie? I read that book. If it's the same one I'm thinking of. It was interesting. Read it years ago, back before Ballard found the actual Titanic. That was the first place I had heard about the Y2K bug. It was an interesting bit of background for one of the characters, that supposedly he made his fortune figuring out how to fix all those computers in time. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Edit: Ah, never mind. The book I read was not Cusslers novel, but was The Ghost From the Grand Banks by but Arthur C Clarke. Kind of the same idea I guess. But without the spy story underpinning. I liked Clarke's ideas on how to raise both sections of the Titanic. I wonder how feasible it would be in today's terms. It would be costly, though.

narf poit chez BOOM

March 19th, 2004, 06:03 AM

Originally posted by sachmo:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Deathstalker:
Gotta admit though, after seeing Angela Jole in that military outfit she'd make a great Honor Harrington if they ever did an Honor movie http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif My thought is that she's to sexual to be Honor. I picture someone a bit plainer, but pretty. Like the girl from Lost in Translation maybe?
Pictures (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0424060/) <hr /></blockquote>hopefully, someone who could be made to look at least a little chinese, although DW has stated that since there aren't to many 6'2" chinese actors/martail artists, he's looking first for someone who can do HH's personality and presence first. not a direct qoute. i'm not sure if you could do that with her^ face, not knowing anything about makeup.