[Strategical Combat] Query about ship placement

[Alneyan]

While playing a 2vs2 game (*Waves at Parabolize and Electrum*), I ran into a small problem with the way fleets are handled.

Does anyone know how you can ensure that a given ship will play before another one in a strategical battle? Or for this matter, how the different ships are placed within a given ship? After running a few experiments, it seems like the smaller crafts are the first to play, but I could be wrong. (And I do hope you can tweak around this)

Thanks in advance for any assistance regarding this problem!

[primitive]

Check out the formations.txt file

Only ship you have control over is the leader. The rest are placed according to the formation, with the oldest ships getting the lowest number. Since the oldest usually also is the smallest, some of the formations can suck really bad for certain fleet combos.

On the other hand, if you have the time it can be used as a feature; retrofit your old LCs with Shield Depleaters and Engine Destroyers and they can be quite effective as the front line http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Alneyan]

That's interesting news Primitive! *Grins* Thanks a lot, it will open new paths to my cunning efforts.

[Wardad]

Nice signature line Primitive.

[President Lomax]

If you are talking about moving each ship sepearatly in a fleet during battle then I know what to do. Just move every toher ship (other then the leader) until they have no movement points left, then when the leader moves they cannot follow him. I hope that sort of helps.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Originally posted by President Lomax:
If you are talking about moving each ship sepearatly in a fleet during battle then I know what to do. Just move every toher ship (other then the leader) until they have no movement points left, then when the leader moves they cannot follow him. I hope that sort of helps. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You can also tell them to break formation; I don't know where or if it works when your moving them.

[President Lomax]

I never knew there was a break formation button order thingy.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

The learning curve is steep, so it's not you. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Nice pics in your sig.

[ March 30, 2004, 05:01: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

[Kamog]

I always have my ships break formation. I'm not sure if there really is an advantage in keeping your ships in formation?

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Your ships don't follow the leader in formation, which really wastes movement and can stick them in bad positions.

[Ragnarok]

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
Your ships don't follow the leader in formation, which really wastes movement and can stick them in bad positions. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You mean that they do follow the leader in formation, do you not?
Breaking formation is always the best option cause the ships will then revert to their individual ship class strat. instead of the fleet strat.

[mac5732]

where do you find the break formation button?

[Wardad]

Mac, It is not just one button, but a group of buttons in the individual strategy menus.

There are buttons for types: transports, carrier, fighters, unarmed, etc...

[ March 30, 2004, 16:59: Message edited by: Wardad ]

[capnq]

In tactical combat only, under Orders, Clear All Group Assignments breaks the formation, also.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Originally posted by Ragnarok:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
Your ships don't follow the leader in formation, which really wastes movement and can stick them in bad positions. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You mean that they do follow the leader in formation, do you not?
Breaking formation is always the best option cause the ships will then revert to their individual ship class strat. instead of the fleet strat. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">With my unqouted Posts, you may have to scroll down 1 post. I refuse to qoute the post in front of mine. Fosters laziness.

[Kamog]

Speaking of the strategy menu, is there any way to delete a strategy you have created? Sometimes I have added my own strategies by using the "Add" button but there's no "Delete" button, so when I no longer want to use the strategies I made, I can't get rid of them and they clutter the window.

As a workaround, now I no longer name the strategies I made with anything specific. I just call them "Strategy A", "Strategy B" and so on and only make 2 or 3. I keep modifying them if I need to change them, and I just remember what they do. That way the window doesn't get cluttered up with a bunch of obsolete strategies.