Robotech Ship Set

[Atrocities]

http://www.astmod.com/images/ship1_Portrait_Race.PNG http://www.astmod.com/images/ship1_Mini_Race.PNG
http://www.astmod.com/images/ship2_Portrait_Race.PNG http://www.astmod.com/images/ship2_Mini_Race.PNG

I have not done much with this set aside from these two ships. I am working on a few more but in order to complete the set I might have to use some creative license. Again the completion of a set this difficult would require some time, and a slight interest from those who would like to have this set completed.

[ April 19, 2004, 20:38: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[Imperial]

Zentraedi flagship and command cruiser, wow great work!!! The hardest part about Robotech ships, moreso for the Zentraedi is that there are only 5 main ships in there fleet, if you are going strictly by the first series canon. I have seen other concept drawings/ images from Macross that add ships to it.(Meaning that its hard to fill in gaps if you plan on doing a full set for SE-IV) but it can be done like you said with some creative license. The Earth forces have alot more ships to draw from. Still the work presented is awesome, well done, especially Coming from DOGA.
I am sure there are some Robotech fans who will admire these ships.

[Atrocities]

Thanks Imperial. This set will be slow coming. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif I just have to be in the mood to work on it and lately I have been kinda running on low.

[parabolize]

I never played Robotech but I really like the ships anyway.

[Randallw]

Atrocities, I have been unable to access ASTMod site or any of your links. I have no trouble with any other sites. Might there be some reason why I can't get your site?. I was actually thinking of making a Zentraedi shipset recently.

[Atrocities]

http://www.galileo.spaceports.com/~william/main.htm
http://www.astmod.com
http://www.astmod.com/startrek/stm.htm

They all worked for me just now. It might be an issue with the new anti virus spamming software they are installing though.

[General Woundwort]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
Again the completion of a set this difficult would require some time, and a slight interest from those who would like to have this set completed. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Consider a "slight interest" registered. So get cracking! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[pathfinder]

It amazes me what you are able to do with DOGA AT. Bravo!

[Randallw]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
http://www.galileo.spaceports.com/~william/main.htm
http://www.astmod.com
http://www.astmod.com/startrek/stm.htm

They all worked for me just now. It might be an issue with the new anti virus spamming software they are installing though. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I got the gallileo site but then when I tried to look at shipsets at ASTMod it didn't work.

[Yef]

Whoa, that shipset looks amazing.
I've never heard of Robotech, but I love those ships. I'm definitively getting that one when its ready.

What about the infantry and troops. Those got to be brainkillers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif (Will they be legged or hovers?)

[Tnarg]

Great looking ships AT, so are you going to make a mod for these http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Just kidding, but I would be interested in any more ship that you make. Good job.

[gregebowman]

Count me in for being interested. Never really got the chance to watch the tv show when it first came out, but I got the first 2 volumes on dvd. Been able to watch the first volume, but haven't seen the second volume. And there are 5 or 7 volumes total? Like I've said before, too many dvd sets, not enough time or money.

[QuarianRex]

That is great work AT. Once this is done would you mind if I included it in my ill fated Robot Mod. The one thing that I'm missing is some appropriate robot pics (and AI files, and playtesting by someone other than me...). If I could get you to do some extra battlepod pics when the shipset is done I would be eternally grateful.

[Randallw]

Originally posted by Yef:
Whoa, that shipset looks amazing.
I've never heard of Robotech, but I love those ships. I'm definitively getting that one when its ready.

What about the infantry and troops. Those got to be brainkillers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif (Will they be legged or hovers?) <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">For a minute there I thought you said Hooves. In which case, yes the Battlepods would have hooves. Zentraedi infantry, troops and mecha, have legs. If you did have Zentraedi they would have to have massive physical strength since they are 50 feet tall. To be realistic you would have to reduce maintenance while removing repair ability.

[Kevin Arisa]

Very nice. I would definitly download it if you finish it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Atrocities]

Cool, I guess I shall have to get to it then. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I have one of the blue troops (toy) so I can model after that.

To fill out the set and organize it I will need help on. Let me finish the other ships I have images for and then ask how you would place them.

Escort
Frigate
Destroyer
Light Cruiser
Cruiser
Battle Cruiser
Battleship
Dreadnought
Baseship

NEO
Scout
Corvetter
Heavy Destroyer
Heavy Cruiser
Heavy Dreadnought
Juggernought
Heavy Baseship

Light Carrier
Carrier
Heavy Carrier
Tiny Carrier
Massive Carrier

Space Station
Battle Station
Starbase
War Station (base)

etc.

[Saber Cherry]

From what I've seen of Robotech, the artwork seemed pretty lousy... but those ships look awesome! Good work=)

[Ragnarok]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
Any Feed Back? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes...you're breaking up.. I can't read your post... the feedback is too great... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

But seriously, excellent work AT. I like the ships alot!

[sachmo]

Beautiful. I'm ready to see veritechs. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Atrocities]

I have made the Weapon Platforms and Carriers. The set is coming along.

[Imperial]

Superior work!!--bravo

[Stone Mill]

Sweet. Nice craftmanship, Atrocities.

[Atrocities]

Thanks Guys. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I am happy that people like the work. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Atrocities]

The Carriers

http://www.astmod.com/images/robotech/Car1_Portrait_Race.PNG http://www.astmod.com/images/robotech/Car1_Mini_Race.PNG
http://www.astmod.com/images/robotech/Car2_Portrait_Race.PNG http://www.astmod.com/images/robotech/Car2_Mini_Race.PNG
http://www.astmod.com/images/robotech/Car3_Portrait_Race.PNG http://www.astmod.com/images/robotech/Car3_Mini_Race.PNG

[Saber Cherry]

Comments:

Of the ships you posted with variants, each time, I thought the variant looked cooler. As for the carriers, the top two are very difficult to distinguish for me... the differences are subtle. Perhaps the middle and bottom one could be made wider, or the top one could have some additional colored patterning on it (the blue markings, for example)?

Another possibility is the "thorns" on the sides, which could be varied in number for the different size classes. For the ships below the carriers, for example, you could give them 2, 3, and 4 side-thorns at the ship's tail - currently, the overhead outline of the bottom two is identical, as they are different only by a vertical fin and the grey tanks. Coloring the vertical fin so it is obvious on the overhead view might be nice, too, as would giving the bottom one wider wings. The red dots near the front might look better if you could move them out a bits, so they were visible in an overhead view...

Lastly... naming the ship sets (eg "Carriers") is very useful for giving specific feedback=)

[Imperial]

I think the carriers look fine as is-- but im not that asthetic(sp?)

[Atrocities]

I can doll up the second one a bit more. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Carriers

Light Carrier
Carrier
Heavy Carrier

The Varients are actual ships that I have seen that were slightly differant than the once I was modeling after. I may doll up the Varients a bit more to distingish them a bit more, but right now I want to concentrate on just getting the set roughed out.

[Saber Cherry]

Originally posted by Imperial:
I think the carriers look fine as is-- but im not that asthetic(sp?) <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I think they look fine, too; I just have trouble distinguishing between the top 2 carriers, and between the bottom two ships of the group of three below carriers, whatever they are. They all look great, but in the overhead view those ones are hard to differentiate.

[Atrocities]

Thanks Cherry. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I will doll the second one up a bit to give it a tad differnt look. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Atrocities]

The Carriers Revised

http://www.astmod.com/images/robotech/Car1_Portrait_Race.PNG http://www.astmod.com/images/robotech/Car1_Mini_Race.PNG
Light Carrier
http://www.astmod.com/images/robotech/Car2_Portrait_Race.PNG http://www.astmod.com/images/robotech/Car2_Mini_Race.PNG
Carrier

http://www.astmod.com/images/robotech/Car3_Portrait_Race.PNG http://www.astmod.com/images/robotech/Car3_Mini_Race.PNG
Carrier Heavy

(Note they will be the same as the ones below because I replaced them.)

[Fyron]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
NEO
Juggernought <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Where do you keep getting this Juggernought from for Neostandard? It is not on there...

http://www.dogscoff.co.uk/neostand.htm

[Saber Cherry]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
The Carriers Revised<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Nice! They're now immediately obvious, plus the heavier ones look more intimidating http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Urendi Maleldil]

Zentraedi ships. Cool. Are you gonna do any battlepods? Or that huge mobile base?

[Atrocities]

Thank you. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Atrocities]

http://astmod.com/images/robotech/ship3_Portrait_Race.PNG http://astmod.com/images/robotech/ship3_Mini_Race.PNG


And a Varient

http://astmod.com/images/robotech/ship3a_Portrait_Race.PNG http://astmod.com/images/robotech/ship3a_Mini_Race.PNG

[ April 01, 2004, 12:08: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[Atrocities]

http://astmod.com/images/robotech/ship4_Portrait_Race.PNG http://astmod.com/images/robotech/ship4_Mini_Race.PNG

And a Varient

http://astmod.com/images/robotech/ship4a_Portrait_Race.PNG http://astmod.com/images/robotech/ship4a_Mini_Race.PNG

[ April 01, 2004, 12:10: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[Atrocities]

http://astmod.com/images/robotech/ship5_Portrait_Race.PNG http://astmod.com/images/robotech/ship5_Mini_Race.PNG

http://astmod.com/images/robotech/ship5a_Portrait_Race.PNG http://astmod.com/images/robotech/ship5a_Mini_Race.PNG

http://astmod.com/images/robotech/ship5b_Portrait_Race.PNG http://astmod.com/images/robotech/ship5b_Mini_Race.PNG

[Atrocities]

Any Feed Back?

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Atrocities:
NEO
Juggernought <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Where do you keep getting this Juggernought from for Neostandard? It is not on there...

http://www.dogscoff.co.uk/neostand.htm </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I always include a Juggernought with my Version of the Neo Standard Ship sets. I don't have to get it from any where, nor do I really need permission to include it in my sets. I include it because I like too. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ April 02, 2004, 04:36: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[Fyron]

It is not making the image or including it that is the issue, but you constantly labelling it as a neo standard image, which it is not. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
It is not making the image or including it that is the issue, but you constantly labelling it as a neo standard image, which it is not. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Fyron, bugger off. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Atrocities]

http://www.astmod.com/images/robotech/Race_Portrait_TroopSmall.PNG
Troop Small

http://www.astmod.com/images/robotech/Race_Portrait_TroopMedium.PNG
Troop Medium

http://www.astmod.com/images/robotech/Race_Portrait_TroopLarge.PNG
Troop Large

[Shrapnel]

Wicked set Atrocities. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to the Earthers ships http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Atrocities]

Thanks http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[narf poit chez BOOM]

There kinda dark and hard to see.

And I got over 4000 Posts! Yaay!

[ April 07, 2004, 07:25: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

[QuarianRex]

The troops are pretty good but need a little tweaking. See if you can Bend the legs a little more and make the 'head' a little bigger. You also might want to use a scout battlepod as small, missile battlepod as medium and an officers battlepod as large.

Here are some links for pics...

Battlepods
http://www.chronocorp.com/covers/robotech02.jpg
http://www.lunamanar.com/starfire/pics/robotech.jpg
http://www.solarwinds.com/mac/images/robotech/rt-game1.gif

Officers Battlepod
http://www.angelfire.com/hi/KyleStranger/Crossworlds/Officer.html

Missile, Officers, and Scout Battlepods (hard to see though)
http://www.macrossworld.com/macross/models/nichimo/hcug-zentradi.jpg

Also note that the battlepods were usually blue/white or blue/grey (with the officers pods being darker and havind some red), as opposed to the solid green of their ships. The battlepods were also used as fighters. The third battlepod pic is of them flying in space. I hope that this can help a bit.

[Atrocities]

Thanks, Those help a lot. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Imperial]

a friendly--BUMP http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Atrocities]

lost but not forgotten.

[Atrocities]

I guess I need to be honest and let you all know that I no longer have any of my files. I don't know what happened but a few days ago the computer shut off without warning, no reason for it, just an HP thing. That shut off compermised my DOGA files, my STM files, and a hell of a lot more.

I am just now finding out that most of my important files are gone. I discovered the error in the STM by accident and thankfully it was an easy fix.

However the ships for this set are not. I still have the 3 pods, but that is ALL I have.

The rest are gone.

[TerranC]

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[Kevin Arisa]

Ouch. It is like a computer plague. Let's hope it isnt spreading. I must now go and backup everything. It would be a good idea for everybody to do so. This data loss problem is becoming an epidemic! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

[General Woundwort]

It seems to strike SEIV modders with uncanny regularity. Hugh Manatee lost all his shipsets Last year. The pre-AST mod work done by CPT Kwok suffered the same fate.

I personally suspect it's the work of disgruntled MOO3 programmers...

[Imperial]

help is on the way--wink- http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Atrocities]

It makes me sick that computer components have slipped so much in quality these days that something like this can happen. I think it was an over temp issue because it just did it again. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif >:

I remember back in the day paying $400.00 for a 1 gig hard drive and being blown away by how much storage it had. My God you would never be able to fill a one giger up.... and you know what, that HD still works! Which is more than I can say for the other sixty I have boughten since.

[pathfinder]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
<font color=red>Its All Gone</font color> http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">My heart aches for ya Atrocities. I just went thru 2 HDD failures. Lucky me in that the one HDD with my DOGA and B5 MOD files did not die.

[Raging Deadstar]

Originally posted by General Woundwort:
It seems to strike SEIV modders with uncanny regularity. Hugh Manatee lost all his shipsets Last year. The pre-AST mod work done by CPT Kwok suffered the same fate.

I personally suspect it's the work of disgruntled MOO3 programmers... <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You're onto something here!! Imagine if someone actually finished a game Of MOO3, and enjoyed it? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif The sure impossibility and physics defying nature of this event could cause strnage events, like hard drive burn outs, all over the globe!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Maybe i'm just a little paranoid..... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Sorry to hear about this Atrocities, It's true that computer product quality is slipping. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[Atrocities]

<font color=red>Its All Gone</font color> http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[QuarianRex]

Damn.

Double Damn.

Double Dog Damn.

[Atrocities]

Well is any one interested in good news?

Thanks to some help and a lot of time talking to MS support I was able to recover about 40% of my work which was enough to reconstruct all the images. Albeit they are slightly changed.

The set is all but finished say for the three base images.

I have to admit that I am damn proud of this set and I hope that once it is out many of you will like it as much as I.

[Kevin Arisa]

This is good news indeed! It is about time someone was able to retrieve their data. Take that HD failure! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[pathfinder]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
Well is any one interested in good news?

Thanks to some help and a lot of time talking to MS support I was able to recover about 40% of my work which was enough to reconstruct all the images. Albeit they are slightly changed.

The set is all but finished say for the three base images.

I have to admit that I am damn proud of this set and I hope that once it is out many of you will like it as much as I. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Looking forward to seeing it!

[Raging Deadstar]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
Well is any one interested in good news?

Thanks to some help and a lot of time talking to MS support I was able to recover about 40% of my work which was enough to reconstruct all the images. Albeit they are slightly changed.

The set is all but finished say for the three base images.

I have to admit that I am damn proud of this set and I hope that once it is out many of you will like it as much as I. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Looking forward to it Atrocities, Guess MS have done something helpful for once. Hope nothing major has been lost in that 60% you couldn't recover

[Fyron]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
It makes me sick that computer components have slipped so much in quality these days that something like this can happen. I think it was an over temp issue because it just did it again. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif >:<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It all depends on who you buy from... I have never had a piece of hardware fail on me.

Also, keep in mind that as devices are designed to work harder, they often Last less time before breaking down. That 1 GB HD does comparably nothing while it is operating to a 100 GB HD. Spins slowly, hardly anything on the disks to read, etc. When you have to keep things the same size, but vastly increase how much they do at once, trouble ensues. It is not all a matter of producers cheaping out, though many do.

[ April 18, 2004, 18:08: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[Atrocities]

The Zentraedi (http://www.astmod.com/nasy/zentraedi/Zentraedi.htm)

Click Here To Download (http://www.astmod.com/zips/Zentraedi.zip)

Enjoy

[ April 19, 2004, 20:35: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[Fyron]

So what is your next shipset going to be? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Aiken]

Beautyful set, Atrocities. Especially Heavy Carrier and Large Fighter - great working out in details.
Total score: 5+ of 5.

[Atrocities]

Thanks Aiken http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Fyron I don't know. I have tinkered been tinkering with the idea of doing a dedicated B5 Alliance set.

Starting with the White Star and working from there. However I haven't been able to find any decent top down, side, front - rear, or profiles shots of a white star that look good enough to base a model on.

I also sincerely doubt that I could make a decent enough set even if I tried real hard. To many curves and such. Besides my Last attemp at a B5 ship, the Nimbari (sp) Cruiser was not widely appreciated. (Still have a price on my head for that one.)

[Andrés]

Why don't you try one of the se3 shipsets?
It's really fun to make portraits for nice and interesting existing minis.

[pathfinder]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
Thanks Aiken http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Fyron I don't know. I have tinkered been tinkering with the idea of doing a dedicated B5 Alliance set.

Starting with the White Star and working from there. However I haven't been able to find any decent top down, side, front - rear, or profiles shots of a white star that look good enough to base a model on.

I also sincerely doubt that I could make a decent enough set even if I tried real hard. To many curves and such. Besides my Last attemp at a B5 ship, the Nimbari (sp) Cruiser was not widely appreciated. (Still have a price on my head for that one.) <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">AT: I MIGHT be able to help with the white star, at least on top-down and profile...black & white 2D drawings. Plus some web sites...

For Instance here: http://www.b5tech.com/isa/whitestar/wsglory.jpg

[ April 20, 2004, 00:09: Message edited by: pathfinder ]

[Imperial]

Awesome shipset!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Atrocities]

The set would not have been done without Imperials help, and thank you Pathfinder for the link. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by Andres:
Why don't you try one of the se3 shipsets?
It's really fun to make portraits for nice and interesting existing minis. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I did make one SEIII set into an SEIV set for Fyron. It is really hard.

[Fyron]

How about a remake of the Zanar'ri? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Atrocities]

I am not up for that my friend. Sorry.

[Kamog]

That's a really great-looking shipset! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Fyron]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
I am not up for that my friend. Sorry. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif You will be, you will be.

[Atrocities]

Thanks Kamog. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Fyron why are you waving your hand infront of my face, what do you think you are some jedi or something. I am an Atrocian, mind trick will not work on me. The only thing that does is credits, and not that funny money from Canada or Europe either, real money, American money. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Timstone]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
Thanks Kamog. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Fyron why are you waving your hand infront of my face, what do you think you are some jedi or something. I am an Atrocian, mind trick will not work on me. The only thing that does is credits, and not that funny money from Canada or Europe either, real money, American money. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Gives AT a good slapping right in the kisser about his remark about good American money.
Tss... good money...

Oh yeah, cool shipset. It's already populating my HD.
Hope you are willing to make more B5 shipsets. Would be very cool. But I hope I have the honour of making the Ancients. If I find the time for it. I have the perfect grafical templates for those. A rocky hull for the Kirishiac Lords.

[ April 20, 2004, 10:23: Message edited by: Timstone ]

[Atrocities]

I don't know if I am or not going to make a set for B5. Remember Last time I tried, I was beaten, tacked to a cross, and when I slipped off, beaten again and restuck to the cross with a sign around my neck that read, and I quote "I Defiled The Blessed B5."

I am fearful that if I attempt a second time they will gut me with a church key and leave me to rot in the mid day sun.

No sir, I would need much protection if I were to attempt a second B5 set. (And the death threats roll in.)

[Timstone]

Fear not AT, I'll protect you agianst the foul creatures who hung you Last time!
If they want to get you, they will have to go through me. I'm armed with a timetraveling gearbox and a ferocious poodle. Hope that does the trick.

[Atrocities]

Thanks.

If you still want to download or view the set just click the NASY (New Age Ship Yards) link in my signature and at the top of the page look for the Zentraedi (RoboTech) link.

Enjoy.

[pathfinder]

Double what Timstone said: They'll have to go through me to get to you first. Your graphics work is one heck of a lot better than mine. I gringe if some B5 fanboy sees my Brakiri shipset... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

[Atrocities]

I will see what I can come up with for Alliance ships. Most assuredly it won't be cannon.

[Fyron]

Hyperactive fanboys are meant to be ridiculed, not taken seriously...

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Hyperactive fanboys are meant to be ridiculed, not taken seriously... <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">There is nothing worse than a Star Trek geek boy other than a Babylon 5 hard core fan. Trust me I know. (Puts stake on left eye and rinks his coke and Jack.) Ouch. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Hyperactive fanboys are meant to be ridiculed, not taken seriously... <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">There is nothing worse than a Star Trek geek boy other than a Babylon 5 hard core fan. Trust me I know. (Puts stake on left eye and rinks his coke and Jack.) Ouch. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Oh boy, which one am I? Star Trek geek boy ( who would preferred to be called a Trekkie) or hard core B5 fan? Decisions, decisions.... I know more of Trek, having been growing up when the TOS first started going into syndication. But I do like B5, even though I haven't seen all of the episodes dozens of times. I can't seem to catch B5 on tv nowadays, so I'll have to put the dvd sets on lay-away one of these days so I can watch them. So I won't call myself hard core yet. But regardless of what I can call myself, I wouldn't ever diss any shipset that Atrocities may put out.

[ April 23, 2004, 15:53: Message edited by: gregebowman ]

[Timstone]

Grege:
If you haven't seen all the episodes of B5, than don't bother to call yourself a hardcore fan. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif
Tss... amateur...

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by Timstone:
Grege:
If you haven't seen all the episodes of B5, than don't bother to call yourself a hardcore fan. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif
Tss... amateur... <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, I did say I hadn't seen the episodes dozens of times. So you're right. I"m not hardcore in that sense. But I do support any sci-fi tv show that can Last more than a few weeks before getting canned. But if I have the chance to put one of the B5 dvd sets on layaway this year, and keep it on layaway, I'll do it.

[Fyron]

Note the term "hyperactive" in front of fanboy. It makes all the difference. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Regular fanboys- those that do not set out to ruin other people's lives just because some trivial detail that only they care about is not 100% their Version of canon- are just fine. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Note the term "hyperactive" in front of fanboy. It makes all the difference. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Regular fanboys- those that do not set out to ruin other people's lives just because some trivial detail that only they care about is not 100% their Version of canon- are just fine. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Then call me a B5 fanboy, because I haven't watched the show so much that I get irritated at non-canon stuff. Heck, I don't even get irritated at all of the Star Trek stuff that's not canon. LIke Atroticites mod, as long as it's in the spirit of ST, then I don't care.

[Atrocities]

This is just a generalization and is not intended to offend or otherwise insult any member of this forum.

Hard Core Geek Boys of star trek are not Trekkies or trekkers. These guys eat, breath, live, and fantise about Star Trek as if it were real. They are the ones that show up at conventions and hiss at people who's costumes are not authentic enough. These are the guys who ask the stupid questions like "What was the combination to your safe on the Enterprise in Episode such and such?"

They are the cry babies who go and tattle on people at work and no not the meaning of clean hair and fixed glasses. (They prefer to where the broken ones held together with white or black tape.) They generally will accept some non cannon star trek things, but most often just launch a letter writing compaine to have your web site shut down. They are a source of many many many negative emails over the years. I have most of them on my block list now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Now Babylon 5 fan boys are a much different breed. Mostly men who have no love of current reality and identify more often than not with characters from B5. These people are generally smarter than uber Trek fans and actaully have a life. However, they are adamant resivor dogs when it comes to cannon and anything that pokes up on their non cannon radar is instantly considered FUBAR.

[ April 23, 2004, 19:27: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[gregebowman]

As much as a sci-fi geek that I am, I can't call myself hardcore by your definition, AT. Sure, I eat, drink and breathe sci-fi, but I do know how to recognize reality. As much as I've read the novels, I still have trouble recognizing some races or remember every single detail from every single Star Wars or Star Trek book I've read. And I've probably read more SW books than I have ST books. The lack of continuity of the ST books just doesnt' do it for me. Heck, nowadays, it may take me a month to even read a book, unless I'm working on the weekends. And I don't get to watch sci-fi programming or movies as much as I'd like to. Part of it I can blame on letting my son watch whatever it is he wants to watch to keep him quiet, and part of it is my wife doesn't like to watch that stuff. Usually by the time I get the kid to bed, I start playing SEIVG and don't watch the tv, unless Jerry Springer is on. So, no, I'm not hardcore. And I would never condone the practice of blockading someone's website because it isn't 100% canon. I've met some of these types (usually playing D&D, and they're the ones who know all of the rules without cracking open a book), and I don't like them either.

[Andrés]

Going back to Robotech, are you planning to make the good guys too?

[Atrocities]

No plans what so ever.