SE3 shipsets

[Andrés]

Does anyone have a copy of the pseudo-3d conVersions I have made. I seem to have lost them.
I had uploaded them only to the cyberwars site and they are down or inaccessible as everything else there.
I thought I had local copies (either HD or CD backup) of all of my shipsets, but I have evidently missed these ones.

I still have the 3ds file I had used and the original se3 shipsets so I guess I could remake them, but it'd be a waste.

I made a few web searches but I couldn't find them Online anywhere. So please tell me if you know of a link or contact me if you can send it.


All of this is because I had finally started to fool around with 3dsmax again and I'm having some promising results in creating truly modeled 3d ships based on the SE3 shipsets.
I won't promise a finished shipset anytime soon, because everytime I do this I end up faulting my word, but I have made a couple of ships that look acceptable (to me) of one of the SE3 shipsets I missed the most (and I'm quite sure I'm not the only one), number 12.

I will also accept contributions of anyone who want to write some fitting AI and/or racial descriptions, otherwise I will en up giving them a copied AI like with the pseudo 3d.

[leo1434]

Hi Andres!

If you remember how were the files called, or if they had a race name, it is probable I had them copied in a CD. Sometime ago I downloaded every shipset I found in all the SE4 pages I knew and burned them in a CD, so If you tell me how were the races called may be I can help you.

[dogscoff]

Think I might have them somewhere...

*rummage rummage*

Yeah, I have style003 to style014 here. Not sure what happened to styles 001 and 002, but I've a feeling they might have been redundant because they were "officiallyt" converted to se4 shipsets as the Krill and Jraenar.

Anyway, I'll zip them up and see if my webmail can handle sending them to you. =-)

[PvK]

They are listed on Trooper's shipset site as being on Kuat Drive Yards, but discontinued. Kuat annoyingly re-did it's site format but dropped most of the available shipsets as "not up again yet" indefinitely.

I probably have them on a CD backup _somewhere_ too. Anyway they were apparently named STYLE003 through STYLE014 (see http://diesel2035.free.fr/racedir/index2.htm, near the bottom ).

PvK

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Who runs kaut anyway?

[PvK]

pathfinder (member 441) mentioned them showing up in a game of his in this thread. (http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=23&t=003164)

PvK

[pathfinder]

Originally posted by PvK:
pathfinder (member 441) mentioned them showing up in a game of his in this thread. (http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=23&t=003164)

PvK <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, I still have them. I can put them into a self-extracting winrar.exe and e-mail them.
Got that WinRar file ready. Just under 2MB of compressed file. Sent to the e-mail address in your profile.

[ April 07, 2004, 10:45: Message edited by: pathfinder ]

[trooper]

Andres, send me a little message as soon as you have them Online http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Andrés]

Thanks Dogscoff and Pathfinder I recieved the files OK.
I should have instructed to post here before sending them, since your two Messages filled most of my 6 mb inbox (if anyone else tried to send them they must have bounced back).

Oh, and I run the Kuat Drive Yards site, althoug I have lost contact with my former host Rimfire from cyberwars.com, and haven't had the time time to rebuild the site since.

And ds, style001 and 002 were the Jraenar and Amon'krie, not the Krill. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

What I'm trying to do now is a similar conVersion for some of the others.

I have to go back to work now, but I may post some previews later.

[Andrés]

I wanted those shipsets to compare them with what I'm working on now.
Like this:

http://kdy.spaceempires.net/temp/style012.gif
http://kdy.spaceempires.net/temp/style012_portrait_dreadnought.jpg http://kdy.spaceempires.net/temp/sethulkra_portrait_dreadnought.jpg

[Ragnarok-X]

the set looks quite awesome, i never seen something similar before ^^

[dogscoff]

Oh.

Wow!

Beautiful pic. Probably the best ship I have ever seen on these forums. ANd I don't look at ships anywere else...

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Very nice ships.

[Ragnarok]

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
Very nice ships. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That is a very nice image, Andres!

I am guessing Fyron will drop by when the set is complete and say something along the lines of: "That would look mighty nice as a organic race in the Adamant mod." http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I look forward to the completed set!

[Baron Munchausen]

Yeah, there were lots of nice ship sets for SE III. I'd like to see more of them converted to SE IV format. There was a beautiful 'Islamic' set, for example, that would probably be 'politically incorrect' now. But they were quite impressive, with dramatic sweeping 'wings' and the crescent logo on them.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:
Yeah, there were lots of nice ship sets for SE III. I'd like to see more of them converted to SE IV format. There was a beautiful 'Islamic' set, for example, that would probably be 'politically incorrect' now. But they were quite impressive, with dramatic sweeping 'wings' and the crescent logo on them. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Strangely enough, political correctness plays no part in my descision-making process.

[Ragnarok-X]

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
Strangely enough, political correctness plays no part in my descision-making process. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I agree, as long as it looks good and fits the style its okay.

[pathfinder]

Originally posted by Andres:
I wanted those shipsets to compare them with what I'm working on now.
Like this:

http://kdy.spaceempires.net/temp/style012.gif
http://kdy.spaceempires.net/temp/style012_portrait_dreadnought.jpg http://kdy.spaceempires.net/temp/sethulkra_portrait_dreadnought.jpg <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Nice work!

[Sefter Aruna]

Nice pics!!! If you need some SEIII races I have a good number of them in storege some where.

[Fyron]

I have a few hundred SE3 shipsets available to download in one file on SpaceEmpires.net.

Download SE3 Ship Sets (http://www.spaceempires.net/home/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownloaddetails&lid=30&ttitle=SE3_Ship_Sets#dldetails) - 1.61 MBs
List of sets in preceding file. (http://www.spaceempires.net/home/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownloaddetails&lid=31&ttitle=SE3_Ship_Sets_List#dldetails)

By the way, if you have more SE3 sets that are not in that file, feel free to email them (zipped) to admin spaceempires net (insert @ and .).

[ April 08, 2004, 03:14: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[Andrés]

Yeah there were many more SE3 shipsets than SE4 ones, and many of them are very cool.
I guess that it's because it's much easier to make or edit a 32x32 bitmap and you don't need any special graphics program almost every player had created at least one shipset.

For SE4 you need to draw larger and more detailed portraits, for what you need some graphics program, 3d for almost all of the shipsets, although there are a few 2d exceptions such as Trooper's Pexlerr (BTW their flag looks very similar to an Islamic crescent to me)
Anyway, making an SE4 shipset is much more complicated and therefor we have fewer shipsets.

I hope that doesn't mean that we'll have even fewer shipsets for SE5.

I also have a some SE3 shipsets somewhere.
But now, as I had done with that quick conVersion you were kind enough to send me back, I want to concentrate in the 12 stock SE3 shipsets that didn't make it into SE4.
I think I had already mentioned how disappointed I was when I finally got the full Version of SE4 and found that there were no more converted SE3 shipsets than the two I had seen in the demo.
Well I'm doing something abut that now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

BTW I have completed few more ships of that style12 shipset, but I'm too lazy to upload and post them tonight.

[Kamog]

Wow that ship looks really good! The fine detail of the texture on the ship is very impressive. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Andrés]

Here's what I have so far. I just posted because I needed a little encouragement to finish the set.
http://kdy.spaceempires.net/temp/preview12.jpg

There are still a few details that need to be fixed, such as that light-color band on the left of the ovoidal hull of the destroyer.
As always, don't be afraid to critizice, I mean it's nice to hear how nice your work is, but it's not very useful to correct details

The race portrait is currently considered provisional, ¿do you think it matchs the shipset?

I also need AI and racial descriptions.
Perhaps these pictures will get some of the AI wizards and/or story writers inspired. Anyone?
I'm provisionaly using the name 'Sethulkra' from the default empire names file, but you may change it to match the racial descriptions.

[dogscoff]

That is nothing short of mind-blowing. I'm glad I already finished the KanesS because if I'd seen these first I would have given up on shipset creation completely.

Those pics are truly gorgeous. Did you make the race portrait yourself? If so, how? I mean really, how?

[pathfinder]

So far I can't find any faults. Very well done IMHO!

[Andrés]

The race portrait is from this picture by H.R. Giger.
http://www.fred-katrin.de/giger/tourist/hr_giger_thetourist_VIII.jpg
I just cropped it and atlered its colors to match the shipset.
The textures are also from another of Giger's pictures with altered colors.

[Ed Kolis]

Great ships - don't hesitate to finish the set! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Master Belisarius]

Hey Andrés, very nice shipset!!

And by the way, never expected to see the Profesor Neurus playing SE4! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[PvK]

Looking extremely good! Yes the portrait is a very good match.

PvK

[TerranC]

/me bows down and praises Andres, while repeatedly showering him with imaginary flowers and lengthy words of praise.

[Kevin Arisa]

Totally amazing! Maybe after you finish it you could write a short tutorial on your methods. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Atrocities]

Is there a list and pictures location for all of the SE III Ship sets?

[Atrocities]

This image looks suspiciously like my ex-girl friend did in the morning..... Very freaky..... Guys if you meet her... look past the body and face and see the evil, dark, betraying, cold hearted, psycotic beast within. JUST RUN.

LOOK AT HER (http://www.fred-katrin.de/giger/tourist/hr_giger_thetourist_VIII.jpg)

Things on my list to do if I could travel back in time.

1. Give self winning lotto numbers for 10 years on exorsketch. Warn not to loose.
2. Warn self that when you meet Tammy, RUN!
3. Cut brakes on Step Mothers car.
4. Turn left instead of right when entering Stevenson on July 5th 1991.
5. Take the blue pill.

[ April 20, 2004, 02:01: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[Fyron]

I'm provisionaly using the name 'Sethulkra' from the default empire names file <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">IMO Sethulkra is a very good name for this set. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Andrés]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
Is there a list and pictures location for all of the SE III Ship sets? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Fyron had posted a file with lots of se3 shipsets below.
There's also a file downloadable from malfador.com
If you want the stock shipsets get the complete Space Empires III.
You don't need to buy the shareware Version to get the shipsets, only to play with all features.

Alternatively they may be in some se3 site still Online, or someone can post them. I have them somewhere on one of my cds.

[Fyron]

I believe that the stock ship sets are in that file I linked to below. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Fyron]

You should get Aaron to include the race in SE5, assuming your models are convertable to .x format. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
You should get Aaron to include the race in SE5, assuming your models are convertable to .x format. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, you need .X Files.

hehehehehe

[Kamog]

That's a very nice ship set, Andres. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif The detailed wavy texture is really unique and beautiful, and the race picture is perfect for the ship set.

[Baron Munchausen]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
You should get Aaron to include the race in SE5, assuming your models are convertable to .x format. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If he can clear the copyright permissions on the race portrait, that is...

[Ragnarok]

Excellent shipset. I truely cannot wait until it is completed. I will use it in my PBW games after that. Evil looking race portrait too, I like it! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[dogscoff]

If he can clear the copyright permissions on the race portrait, that is...
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If not, I'm sure a suitable replacement could be modelled/ drawn by Andres or someone else here.

[Andrés]

Theoretically it can be exported as .X
Face count is not that high considering that models consist of many curved surfaces, and may be reduced with a little work.
And I'm supposed to be able to export them with .x format or maybe convert .3ds files into .x
But I don't even have the SF demo or any other program that uses these format to test them.

Abut the copyright, I don't think it will be a problem as long as I don't try to sell it. Well known artists such as H.R. Giger consider these knid of fan work as free publicity.
And for SE5, I don't know what kind of race portraits it will use, but my guess is that they will also be 3d models and not 2D pre-rendered pictures, so a new one will have to be modeled anyway.

BTW I keep working on the shipset and just finished the bases, but I'm too lazy to upload and post another preview.

Originally posted by Master Belisarius:
Hey Andrés, very nice shipset!!

And by the way, never expected to see the Profesor Neurus playing SE4! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Today, Trulalá. Tomorrow, the quadrant!
¡¡MUEJEJEY!!

[gregebowman]

Nice looking set of ships. And that picture. I can sympathize with Atrocities. It looks surprisingly like my wife when she loses her temper, and the longer we've been married, the shorter time between outbursts http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

[Phoenix-D]

I kind of doubt SE5 will use 3d race portraits. Faces are the most difficult aspect to render, you'd get little gain for a LOT of effort.

If you can send them to me in .x or .3ds I can see how they look in Starfury.

[Kamog]

That picture looks ... dark and disturbing. The creature has a very evil, sinister look. I couldn't imagine being in a relationship with someone like that; I'm not strong enough!

[ZeroAdunn]

Wow, just stunning ships. We need to get a crew together to do all the SEIII stock shipsets.

That would be great.

[Andrés]

Originally posted by Andres:
I also need AI and racial descriptions.
Perhaps these pictures will get some of the AI wizards and/or story writers inspired. Anyone?
I'm provisionaly using the name 'Sethulkra' from the default empire names file, but you may change it to match the racial descriptions. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Fyron seems to approve the name Sethulkra for the race. What about empire type, emperor name, design names and racial descriptions.
Can't any of you write three lines of text?
Not even suggestions?

Maybe it's because I've been reading NJO books recently but when I think of a dark, nasty race that uses organic techs I can only think of something too similar the Yuuzhan Vong.

Maybe if I offer a prize?
Get me a nice matching description and I'll email you an exclusive preview of the shipset plus a couple of larger renders of the ships.

[ZeroAdunn]

I like the idea of a intel race, who uses cunning and deception to it's fullest. Unfortunately SEIV intel is sub par IMHO.

[Phoenix-D]

Change the prize to .3ds files (or a format I can use, heh) and you're on. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Kevin Arisa]

Here is my attempt at a race description. I figured I would try something a little odd for them.


Sethulkra Regime
Aggressive Artisans
Lord Aventhass
Ice Methane

Biological Discription

An average Sethulkra is approxamatly 1.5 meters in length. They are usually of a sandy brown coloration but have been known to have slight variations in hue. Thier eyes are a deep golden yellow and are capable of pointing in two directions at once. Sethulkra lack a solid skeletal system, their form is held in place by complex placements of cartilage. Sethulkra bodies have very few organs in them but the ones they have are heavily reinforced with cartilage. The most heavily guarded is a peculiar ring shaped organ that allows them to hover up to a meter above the ground by bending a small amount of gravitons around itself. Instead of teeth, Sethulkra have a plate of cartilage that protrudes from their upper jaw which they use to sever their diet of small and long nvertabrates. Another distinguishing feature are the tentacles. These are very sensitive, and can even detect the thoughts of other Sethulkra from a single touch.

Society Description

Sethulkra society is very rich one where art is the most important of all things. Their art is centered around genetic manipulations that they deem as the true form of self expression. They are always looking for their new subjects for their art which when finished they then place in stasis in their great art halls for all to see. Their government is ruled by a lord who has proven himself in a match of skill with other contestants. These matches take place every 30 years or when the current lord dies. In such a match the contestants take places in manipulation cahambers and try to kill each other by altering the vital functions of the other candidates while trying to repair lethal alterations to themselves. These matches can go on for days. The Last candidate alive is named ruler and lord of all Sethulkra. This is never disputed for none would dare to defy the victor of the match. Sethulkra have no respect for other races for they see them only as objects for their biological art. Modifying a sentient species is considered the highest form of art possible. Pairing that with their mastery of biological manipulations makes them a horribly dangerous species.

General History

The Sethulkra have had a history of war ever since they met thier first alien race. Their total lack of respect for alien life has given them the label of a race of monsters. For generations Sethulkra have been abducting alien species by the millions all to fuel their unending desire for new artforms. The word about this dangerous race has not reached very far, for all species that know them are engaged in desperate combat or are horribly mutated and frozen in stasis in their art halls. The Sethulkra have sent colony ships into the far reaches of the galaxy for the sole purpose of seeking out new forms of life for their twisted art.

[Ed Kolis]

Ooh, I like it... ooh, looky, they're artists...
...
...
EVIL artists from HELL! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ April 24, 2004, 01:07: Message edited by: Ed Kolis ]

[Andrés]

Congratulations Kevin. I'm sending you the promised shipset and pictures.
Though I think the descriptions still need a little polishing. For example they do have teeth in the picture.

There are still a couple of missing pictures and the old pseudo3d Version is used as placeholder. The whole shipset should be finished next week.

Phoenix, I was goning to send you the model of one of the ships to try, but I don't seem to have your email here.

[ April 24, 2004, 18:38: Message edited by: Andres ]

[Kevin Arisa]

Wow, thanks Andres! I didn't even notice there was a reward being offered. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif I couldn't see the teeth until I looked just now. How did I miss that? Oh well.

[Phoenix-D]

send em to phoenixd@cox.net

(and to the plain-test people: this thing is a spam bait account)

[Andrés]

You can download the old SE3 conVersions I had requested on the first post of this thread at:

http://kdy.spaceempires.net/races/se3styles.zip

[trooper]

Recorded in the racedir, thanks.

[Kamog]

The race picture...

I was just browsing around the site that Atrocities posted, looking at the various paintings by H.R. Giger.
http://www.fred-katrin.de
Beautifully painted... very weird and dark, shocking pictures. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif I think I'm going to have nightmares. Giger is very talented but I wonder if he's completely sane...

[Andrés]

The shipset is almost finished.
All modelling is done, only remains too retouch the descriptions, add some AI and pack it for upload.
I've lost hope on having a good new AI, so where do you recommend I copy AI files from? Any good organic AI out there?

[Fyron]

Aquilaeians are a good organic race AI IIRC. United Floral are also good, but are organic and religious.

So what is the next set you will be converting? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ May 03, 2004, 18:57: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[Andrés]

http://kdy.spaceempires.net/races/sethulkra/

[Andrés]

AI has been copied from TDM Aquilaeians.

Next? Pick any of the SE3 stock shipsets except the one of blue energy ships (style014) that looks too dificult to do right now.

[Ragnarok]

Great set, I have downloaded and look forward to playing them sometime on PBW. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Kamog]

Wow! Beautiful shipset! Thank you for creating it, Andrés! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

For the next one, I vote for the yellow flying-wing triangular ships from SE3.

[Fyron]

How about Style 009? Or Style 011. Was Style 011 made into a SE4 set?

[PvK]

This Sethulkra shipset is just wonderful, Andres. Thanks for making it!

PvK

[Andrés]

Check these Sethulkra pictures:
http://kdy.spaceempires.net/temp/fleet.jpg
http://kdy.spaceempires.net/temp/starbase.jpg
http://kdy.spaceempires.net/temp/backfleet.jpg

Kamog voted for Style013, Fyron for styles 009 and 011.

[Ed Kolis]

Whoa... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Those pics SO make me want to go out and buy that fancy Truespace software I've been wanting so I can make some of my own that look that good!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Fyron]

Andres, feel free to submit those to the Image Gallery at www.spaceempires.net/home (http://www.spaceempires.net/home)

[dogscoff]

Fantastic sets, and I love the presentation website too.

However I hate to be the one to point this out...
http://kdy.spaceempires.net/races/sethulkra/sethulkra_portrait_escort.jpg http://www.dogscoff.co.uk/images/viking/Vikings_Portrait_FighterMedium.gif

http://kdy.spaceempires.net/races/sethulkra/sethulkra_portrait_fightermedium.jpg http://www.dogscoff.co.uk/images/viking/Vikings_Portrait_FighterLarge.gif

The Viking set was there a few years ahead of you...

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

(Just kidding. You do the pics far better than I ever could=-)

[Deathstalker]

My votes for the Yvelon http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif (style 13)

[pathfinder]

Originally posted by Deathstalker:
My votes for the Yvelon http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif (style 13) <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">My vote would be either 9 or 14 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Fyron]

Ok Andres... there will be no consensus. Just start from the beginning and make them all (other than those that already exist in SE4 form). http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Lord_Shleepy]

Brilliant work Andres! I've had a deep longing for the old SEIII stuff nibbling at the back of my brain for a long time...but no artistic talent. :-)

Originally posted by gregebowman:
Nice looking set of ships. And that picture. I can sympathize with Atrocities. It looks surprisingly like my wife when she loses her temper, and the longer we've been married, the shorter time between outbursts http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif . <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It's the hormones... My wife's moods are predetermined by her hormonal state for the week...she has her grumpy weeks, and her depressed weeks, and her hyper weeks, etc. Actual events are irrelevant...it's all about the chemicals in her bloodstream...heheh. It's eerie...

[Lord_Shleepy]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
This image looks suspiciously like my ex-girl friend did in the morning..... Very freaky..... <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hmm...is that a chicken on the right hand side of that image? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Lord_Shleepy]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Ok Andres... there will be no consensus. Just start from the beginning and make them all (other than those that already exist in SE4 form). http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes. I had always liked style 3 anyway and had often modified it to a variety of purposes. I picture this one as a fairly humanoid oxy breather type...maybe even something somewhat cutsie in appearance (like the Norak) but probably more aggressive as the ships look somewhat militaristic. Feel free to ignore me tho...just babbling. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Kamog]

Originally posted by Lord_Shleepy:
Hmm...is that a chicken on the right hand side of that image? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That's a grotesquely mutated chicken... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Originally posted by Kamog:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Lord_Shleepy:
Hmm...is that a chicken on the right hand side of that image? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That's a grotesquely mutated chicken... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hermit crab.