MP Game - Newbie Game (by JDScherrey)

[JDScherrey]

Where are the massive newbie games? I checked a website...to which I for some reason cannot register yet and the game was filled in under a couple of hours.

Just trying to rule the world. You create a stable internet connection, bury your whole base in a ton of concrete and hescos to create stability and you still can't get into a game.

Ok...so that wasn't to get into a game, but still there should be a ton of newbies out there.

Christopher

[ July 02, 2004, 17:35: Message edited by: Zen ]

[Boron]

i would like to participate in a newbie game too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
i have the game since ~ 10 days so i am i would say still a quite bloody newbie http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Tannath]

If you are going to start a newbie game, I would like to enter.

[starwarsluke]

I would like to join if you start a game also.

[Boron]

with how many players do you want to play ?
i would like to try ryleh or arco i think http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[starwarsluke]

Could I be Caelum?

[Tannath]

I would like to be Abysia

[drool]

so im a real newbie. just got my copy week a go.
how do i sign up? id like to play ulm with black forest theme.

[drool]

posting again. i think i can manage to put up a extremely-newbies-only-gameserver tomorrow. well actually today.. ill post details later. somewhat 15:00-. ìf i manage to put it up, it will be on-line server. hopefully there will enough people for a good game. but of course something can go terribly wrong. and no game shall be played. terrible things happen. but lets hope not. terrible might be something like unpassable firewall..

[JDScherrey]

You know I like your positive outlook! Never a word of negitivity about the server! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I would really like to get into my first multi-player game!

Christopher

[drool]

thumbs up.

im puttin up server, all right, but theres some things to solve before thats heppening. im going to put up a linuxcomp for a server and things like that. maybe day after tomorrow.

somethings about the game settings. its going to be ,independents 7, normal riches, only few magic sites (35. normal is 40), aran map. 8 to 10 humanplayers. no comps. only newbies without serios mp-experience are welcome:) or maybe some veteran could join in and try extremely bizarre tactics..

i think it would be a good idea to blitz first 20-40 turns in one night/morning/evening/day depending on which timezone you are at. and after the blitz one turn every 24h. or faster if everybody involved maakes their moves.

i`ve heard bad things about clamhoarding and vampire queen. they are Banned in some mp-games (so i read from the threads). could somebody explain why are these things so vicious. vampire queen is obvious (but she was remade in the patch, so is she still too powerful for mp-games?), and what is this thing called clamhoarding? if its very bad, then its Banned.

any requests for the game?

and yeah, no quiters, castlers and cheaters plz.

[Tannath]

That´s good news!
I'm a really newbie, and never played MP, so I think I qualify for this game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
I think it's a good idea to make the first 20-40 turns in the same day, but could it be in the weekend please?
I don't have any idea about what is clamhoarding http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif

[Boron]

good news http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
clamhording is the following :
there is a artefact which is called clam of pearls . you get it with conjuration 2 .
you need water 2 to forge it . cost is 10 gems . it is a misc item .
it produces 1 astral pearl each turn .

i tried it now in my current single player game as atlantis . if you are left alone after 40-50 turns this is really devastating . i have now a bonus income of 120 astral pearls at turn 60 .
but only atlantis is really good at it ihmo .
they have 5 water pearls / turn from capitol site and water 3 national mages .
only other nation with water 2+ national mages which you don't get only via lucky random magic pick like ryleh is caelum . but they have only 2 water pearls / turn from their capitol site and are not quite unattackable in the beginning like atlantis .

so i would suggest building clams is allowed . only if someone really plays atlantis we should think about it . but for everybody else it will be like +10 astral pearls at turn 40 so that is not that bad http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

concerning the vq : i know that it was weakened in 2.12 : forbidden for ermor , cost increased from 110 to 150 and dominion decreased from 2 to 1 . so i would say if anybody wants to take a vq pretender he may http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

is ermor ae or sg allowed too ?

what do you mean with no castlers ? cause depending on which nation i play with some i choose the watchtower and when i chose the watchtower i try to build one in most of my provinces .
if i instead play a nation with good national troops i mostly choose the castle and so i build not many of them .
but if anyone chooses the watchtower why should he not be allowed to try to build one in every of his provinces ?

[Norfleet]

Post deleted by Norfleet

[Huzurdaddi]

Clamhoarding is the general practice of building the Clam of Pearls or similar items, harvesting the income, alchemizing it BACK into the source material, and then producing more clams. In order to really qualify as "hoarding", I feel that the reverse-alchemy is the criteria: If you only build them with your natural, useless water gem income, you're not really hoarding.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sooo ... would you say that clam hording is broken or not? How about if Atlantis is not in the game? I suppose that gives another advantage to caelum and they don't really need it!

[Boron]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">and what is this thing called clamhoarding? if its very bad, then its Banned.<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Clamhoarding is the general practice of building the Clam of Pearls or similar items, harvesting the income, alchemizing it BACK into the source material, and then producing more clams. In order to really qualify as "hoarding", I feel that the reverse-alchemy is the criteria: If you only build them with your natural, useless water gem income, you're not really hoarding.
[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">what other items are there to hoard gems ?
i remember reading in one post there is one with earth gems anything else ? and is one as profitable / cheap as clamhording ? and which nation do you think is best for clamhording norfleet ? i read a post were people said you are the expert for this http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ( and for most other things too but especially for this and ermor/vq http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif )

[Huzurdaddi]

The reason I am asking is that I am considering starting up a new game ( if I can find somewhere to host it .. I do have static IP's but my old linux box is dead and I really don't feel like going through the pain to setup another one ).

[drool]

hey ho silver! players ahead! well met!

by castling and clamhoarding i mean everything stormbinder says in following thread. i would not like to see this upcoming game turn in to a show off of a few hardcore gamers, who know how to get the best of the game. knowing the flaws and faults of it. and by this message i dont intend to start a flamewar between different schools of players. i, myself, am more of a roleplayer type of gamer. so if you agree with almost everything that stormbinder says about the game ethics in following thread, then you are welcome in my game. this game is meant to new players. i have not played dominions2 multiplayer before and sure as hell i dont want it to end like the one i`ve taken for example.

http://www.gonegold.com/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=11;t=002168

as for the ermor question. i have no answer. i`ve never played multiplayer before, nor have i played ermor in singleplayer. only experience of
ermor is though easy comp. and it kicked my *** big time.. vampire queen is okay.

so as i`ve said before. i dont know much about setting up a good, balanced game. but if somebody knows the basic houserules for a enjoyable multiplayer game. then please share thy wisdom with i and i`s friends. does somebody know good restrictions to clamhoarding?

maybe the first houserule could be that you follow the link. read the thread through. and then decide that do you want to take part to this upcoming game.

it would be nice if gods would have names that sound like names of gods. so no n00b or AzzFuKz kind of names:) you all know what i mean. and by newbies i dont mean the ones who have not played the game versus comp. you have to know how the game works, not getting your god killed in very first rounds.

as for the starting time, we have to discuss that later. next weekend i`m off to countryside, so thats out of the question.

-drool, the drooling god. one with many, and foolish enough to take ulm with black forest theme as his chosen nation.

As a general rule you should not play by a set of rules unless you've played by them before and can attest to their veracity. It would bode very ill for MP newbies to start playing with rules around "no castles, no clams, no pretenders that have more than 10 hp" because once you would like to play in other games, it's going to limit your choices, because the greater percentage of players think those rules are precisely *for* newbies, and if you can't learn how to fight against them, then you will always 'lose' because of them.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Boron:
and which nation do you think is best for clamhording norfleet ?<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'd have to say that the "best" clamhoarding nation would probably be Atlantis: It has a large starting water gem income, national mages that can forge clams out of the box, and easy access to a random Earth-2 on a King of the Deep for boots, and then hammers. Furthermore, it has an underwater position that is difficult for other players to attack. R'lyeh shares many similar characteristics, as well as having effective things it can do OTHER than hoarding clams, but Atlantis still takes the prize on pure clamhoarding.

[drool]

thanks for your wise and guiding words zen. i really like this game, and i was frightened to death when i read that thread i linked. "but now i'm enlightened by your words. and i let myself to be guided by your wisdom. and there shall not be any restrictions. let us learn from our own mistakes." my mp experience is restricted to blizzards warcraft3 on battle.net.and its kinda different out there, i tell you. so i`m sorry if i came out kinda offensive in start. sorry `bout that. but read the thread and you get the idea why i was feeling that way. not meaning to be sarcastic in any way, zen.

You should go ahead and play this game with those rules, since it was started with them in place. But in the future, you should look towards not limiting your games or it will impede your MP progress. If you don't mind or don't care about being more competitive in MP and only want to play with your friends, go ahead and play with House Rules, they are there to make the game 'funner' for some people. But if you would like to not get frustrated playing other people than your friends, I would try to stay away from strict limitations.

I hope you have fun Drool, there are plenty of people on the forum who can help you as your game progresses, though you had better keep it on the hush hush if your opponents read this board. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[JDScherrey]

I am in agreement on the zero restrictions. But the bigger question is when do we start playing and I like the Karan map too. Nice and big.

Christopher

I'm up for any nation really. I just want to start picking nations and get ready to play http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[drool]

hi y`all.

i think that norfleet is right about both things. it will be hard to get 8 to 10 people together for a play from forums. and if we do get, aran will be too crowded for us. so if people show up, then we play karan or some other big map, which ever gets the most votes. but if we get like 4to6 playas, then i prefer to stick with the nice aran.map. it has history. and its my personal favorite. enough coaststal lines, forests and mountains.

about the starting. you have to give me a little time to get that other comp working properly. so there will hopefull be no server off-line Messages. tuesday? wednesday? but people have to go to work, so if we make that jumpstart, it`ll have to be weekend. and for me next weekend ain`t going to be happening.. what can i say? i`d play you right away. but.. theres always a big but.

[Norfleet]

Well, if you're really eager to get a game rolling, you might want to try hanging out on the IRC #dominions channel on irc.gamesurge.net. It's been fairly quiet lately, but if enough people showed up and were ready to play at any given time, you could get a spontaneous quickstart game going. This has its good, bad, and ugly points, though.

[Tannath]

Drool: if you can't start the game next weekend, maybe we could start it next wednesday or thursday, and in the weekend of 10-11 July we could make 20-30 turns in the same day (not the first turns, but...)

I would like to be Abysia http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Boron]

drool can you please repost the settings / rules ?
if you chose to keep them as you listed in your starting post just say you keep them but plz post additional info on the following :
- random events common / rare ?
- research difficulty ?
- standard victory or with vp ? if vp how much are there on the whole map and how much to win ?

if it is allowed and not already taken by someone else i would like to try ermor instead .

[drool]

for tannath. yes your request is ok. wednesday/thursday sounds good. and rush next weekend. maybe on both days.

settings:
humans only. starting provinces1, ind7, normal richnes, magic sites 35, random events common, research normal, standard victory. one turn for 24h. map aran. (norfleet said that aran would be too crowded for 8 people. yeah maybe, but isn`t it the idea of the game that weaker pretenders tend to die, and only strongest will survive and deserve to mutiply?)(oh,i just had to say that:)). i like the look of parganos too. and its bigger than aran. desert eye goes fine too, it just got to be unwrapparounded first.
and about glamhoarding and similar. its up to you how you play the game.

no vps in my plans. but if people like idea of few vp locations to strenghten dominions, and for something to fight for. its okay to me.
standard victory conditions anyway.
tell me what you think.

ermor is okay too.
i dunno thought of the other players..

how many people are coming to play?

boron-ermor
tannath-abysia
drool-ulm
jd-sherrey-anything goes?
starswarsluke-caelum
huzurdaddi-were you interested?
is this true or false?
anybody else?

[Norfleet]

There's a few other problems with Aran than mere crowding: Firstly, the map is not terribly well balanced for large crowds, as there are a very large number of very ****ty starting positions out on the peninsula. With 8 people, somebody's going to end up being screwed by getting stuck there with 3 other equally screwed suckers. While the map is great and has a lot of story in single player, it's badly balanced for multiplayer.

You're all welcome to discover this for yourself, though. After all, discovering which maps suck for what conditions is a part of being a newbie. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Just don't say I didn't warn you!

[ June 29, 2004, 17:37: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

[starwarsluke]

Sorry about this but would it be possible to start the game on saturday instead of wedensday/thursday because I doubt I will be able to take my turn on wedensday, thursday or friday though i might be able to. Also a second question. By humans only you are talking about pretenders right? Would it be ok to use a Arch Seraph?

It's not exactly balanced, but that is half the fun of playing on Aran, is if you get one of those so called '****ty' positions right on the coast. It definitely puts the game in a new perspective for whatever your original playstle is. Which makes it in and of itself, fun to play on.

Every map has it's MP nuances. You'll find them out as you play on them more.

[Boron]

Originally posted by starwarsluke:
Sorry about this but would it be possible to start the game on saturday instead of wedensday/thursday because I doubt I will be able to take my turn on wedensday, thursday or friday though i might be able to. Also a second question. By humans only you are talking about pretenders right? Would it be ok to use a Arch Seraph? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">really ? this would be very bad for me . ermor has to take a undead pretender imho .
i planned to take either a PoD or a ghost king .
you meant no computer players right ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[drool]

sorry for being so mysterious again. i mean that all players will be humans. so no vs. comps. any pretender will do. this game is open for for any kind of playstyles. it wasn`t when i started to put it up. but then i got some guidance `bout setting up a necomersgame. so now it is.
however, i still recommend you read this thread and the one i`ve previously linked. so you get some idea of what i had in mind when i started to blah blah..

next thursday seems to be ok for 1/2 of us, how about remaining 1/2? the game is still open for a few new people. and theres still one big question. what timezone are you guys an gals from? this little noob is from helsinki, so its 21:15 here and now.

[Pickles]

I would like in as Jotunheim please

Pickles

[Tannath]

Cool settings
I would like to play as Abysia.
I am in Portugal, it's 22:30 now.

[Pickles]

& I am in london posting at 23.32

Pickles

[JDScherrey]

I would like to play as Vanhiem if you don't have any complaints?

JDScherrey

I agree with the settings. I map will be interesting...

[Boron]

i am from germany
so gmt +1

i am tensed to see how beeing ermor turns out http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[starwarsluke]

Posting at 9:42.

[drool]

so we are all from hour there hour here area. it'll be no problem to gather at thursday evening/latenight?

vanheim, no complaints. borons ermor, i could start yappin, but wont be http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif (i did some research. i tried ermor with soul gate theme. same settings that we are going to have in our game. five normal comp opponents.
i controlled 3/4 map and had wasted two rival pretenders by the turn 60.. i had lich queen as my pretender. i just roamed around countryside and kept raising army. but it`ll be interesting, interesting indeed, to see how mp will turn out to be. will ermor be able to corrupt all lands? of course it will be entirely different situation when every opponent is controlled by human.) some *****ing after all http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
it'll be deadly. ermor that is.

there is six of us now. no word from huzurdaddi yet? is he still around?

it would be nice to have somebody playing with some human nation. besides me i mean.

[Norfleet]

The computer is exceptionally bad at coping with Ermor. A human player can adapt to both forms of Ermor easily enough, and I, personally, see fighting Ermor as my ticket to a full HoF takeover.

However, Ermor may be very brutal against newbies who aren't quite as adept at mass destruction.

[Pickles]

Quoting
" so we are all from hour there hour here area. "

That means all european players cool.


"it'll be no problem to gather at thursday evening/latenight?"

I think you need to add dates to these Messages now. If you meant today that is OK with me (or next week)


"it would be nice to have somebody playing with some human nation. besides me i mean. "

I could be Ulm instead - I was goint to use it in a game that feel through.

Pickles

[Boron]

i am quite bad with ermor i think http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
and 35% magic sites + indies lvl 7 are settings not in favour of ermor http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

i have much more fear of abysia and caelum http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
most in fact of abysia http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

if it is really a problem though then i play ryhleh as suggested in my first post since it is still free so far i can see http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Boron]

Originally posted by Pickles:
Quoting
" so we are all from hour there hour here area. "

That means all european players cool.


"it'll be no problem to gather at thursday evening/latenight?"

I think you need to add dates to these Messages now. If you meant today that is OK with me (or next week)


"it would be nice to have somebody playing with some human nation. besides me i mean. "

I could be Ulm instead - I was goint to use it in a game that feel through.

Pickles <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">drool is already ulm i think http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Pickles]

Boron "drool is already ulm i think http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif "

Doh! I was just checking that (& getting Drool's
name). You can't do it once you have started the message so I was going to edit.

Jotun it is then.

It might be useful to edit the first or second post to show the players & races so that it is easy to find.

Pickles

[ July 01, 2004, 09:19: Message edited by: Pickles ]

[drool]

starting at thursday d08m07y2004.maybe 20:30?

boron-ermor (ermor is not a problem, really!)
pickles-jotun
starswarsluke-caelum
jdsherrey-vanheim
tannath-abysia
drool-ulm
?-?
?-?


i forgot something, but it doesn`t matter cause i cant remember it.

[Tannath]

for me it's ok.
And Boron, you don't need to be afraid of abysia, I am a really bad player (I never played MP, but against the AI...) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[starwarsluke]

So I guess you wouldn't be willing to start the the game on the tenth instead of the eigth? In that case I will not be able to join the game. Sorry for the inconvinence.

[drool]

oh starswarsluke! you said couple of Posts ago that thursday would be fine to you. or thats how i understood it. but now that i re-read it, i got it all wrong.. darned. you seem to be pretty interested of this game, and id really like to have you in it. so im willing to go with the saturday start. maybe its better so.
this way we can blitz right away. is this ok with rest of you? please tell me the exact time you`re ready match. could you? somebodys going to work? going to have a hangover, or something like that? on saturday.
(i might be working/having hangover, debends on situation at work..)

100704 am/pm??

[starwarsluke]

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, for waiting until Saturday. Anyhow as for time of the match I would be ready anytime after 6:00 p.m. my time (-7 hours for server time). I'm sorry if I had accidently made you think there was less of a time diffrence because you said "so we are all from hour there hour here area" I should have written A.M. on the time I was posting at sorry. If this is inconvinent for the rest of you I will of course gladly not join the game but by anytime after 6:00 p.m, I mean that literally.

[Boron]

i am here the whole saturday normally .
but with a 80% chance ( depending on weather ) i will be not there around 2-3 hours in the afternoon / early evening to play tennis .
but i will post when i play the day before or saturday morning then http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

question : at mohansens server can we play the game there ?
is it possible to do our blitz hosting there on saturday and then change to a 24h or whatever you want schedule ?

[starwarsluke]

The Mosehansen server will not allow you to create any new games at the moment.

[Boron]

Originally posted by starwarsluke:
The Mosehansen server will not allow you to create any new games at the moment. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">but we start only in 1 week so perhaps we are lucky and can it host then there because a slot is free http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Norfleet]

If you are in need of a server, I can offer to host it for you on kludgemush.com - my price is that I get to give your game a snarky name.

[Pickles]

Norfleet:
" If you are in need of a server, I can offer to host it for you on kludgemush.com - my price is that I get to give your game a snarky name. "

You live for this don't you?

Pickles

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Pickles:
You live for this don't you?<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">We can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

[drool]

sorry for off-lining for a while.

norfleet, if you really could host our game, that would be wonderful. because im having little problems with my linux installation. victory conditions for the game have been posted earlier. it is supposed to start next saturday (10th of july) afternoon.

if i can get the server running properly ill host the game myself.

thanks.

[Aku]

Hi, I just registered on the forums right now. Is it possible for me and my friend Bud to play in those Last two spots?

And to double confirm it is human players not human pretenders right?

If the two spots are available, Bud will choose Man and I will choose Mictlan if those choices are ok.

Another question...the initial meet up on july 10th what time in GMT is that? Bud and I are GMT -5.

[Boron]

welcome http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
it is only human players not pretenders http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
you may take whatever you want and if i remember right we decided that there are no special rules like no castling and so on http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
so you can do anything

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by drool:
norfleet, if you really could host our game, that would be wonderful. because im having little problems with my linux installation. victory conditions for the game have been posted earlier. it is supposed to start next saturday (10th of july) afternoon.

if i can get the server running properly ill host the game myself.<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, lemme know what you decide you want me to do: Bring it up for sign-in, or let you deal with it. Just don't go changing your mind abruptly later, because that's just annoying.

[drool]

well you can put it up norfleet. so there wont be no Last minute changes. what do you mean "bring it up for the sign in"?

boron-ermor
pickles-jotun
starswarsluke-caelum
jdsherrey-vanheim
tannath-abysia
drool-ulm
aku-mictlan
bud-man

session closed i think.
norfleet will tell us the exact time of begining.
and for you newcomers, we are going to blitz at saturday afternoon/evening (server time). so be around your comps. bigup for norfleet!

[Pickles]

What time exactly in GMT are you planning to do this so I can plan other things?

What is the arrangement for blitzing - quickhost I assume?

Pickles

[Norfleet]

Alright, ladies: Here it is:

kludgemush.com 10275
Go upload your pretenders there.

We'll start after drool says tells me to start, and reminds me again what settings he wanted so I can doublecheck them without digging through the post archives.

Let's get a move on it, ladies!

[Aku]

Any time set in GMT for this Saturday?

[drool]

4 norfleet:
starting provinces1, ind7, normal richnes, magic sites 35, random events common, research normal, standard victory. one turn for 24h (quickhost). map aran.

starting at gmt 1500pm. blitz around..

ermor
jotun
caelum
vanheim
abysia
ulm
mictlan
man

close others please.

and big thankses ( http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif ) for norfleet.

[ July 08, 2004, 20:47: Message edited by: drool ]

[Norfleet]

1500 on Saturday? Or immediately?

[Aku]

so for people on eastern time gmt -5 that would be 10am?

[ July 08, 2004, 21:51: Message edited by: Aku ]

[Norfleet]

I strongly doubt it will make a difference beyond the first day, since the game is 24h and quickhost: Unless people are AWOL and staling, you're not going to get a regular time: Just check in every 24 hours and you won't stale.

[Aku]

To upload my pretender I just go to kludgemush.com for the ip address and put 10275 for the port number then pick Mictlan?

The reason I asked about the time because I am not sure if they wanted to do a lot of turns by getting everyone together on Saturday then put it on a 24 hour hosting afterwards?

[Norfleet]

That's right, Chief. Just go there, and pick your slot to upload.

[Norfleet]

I still haven't been notified when this thing is to be started. Only 4 pretenders have been uploaded. It's Saturday. I don't think it's going to start *THIS* Saturday. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Pickles]

" I still haven't been notified when this thing is to be started. Only 4 pretenders have been uploaded. It's Saturday. I don't think it's going to start *THIS* Saturday. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif "

Supposed to be but it seems to be in limbo yesterday's forum inaccesibility can't have helped.
Also (& VERY importantly) what is it called?
:-)

Pickles

[Boron]

where do we meet ?
icq ? irc ? and does it start today ?

[drool]

we should meet at kludgemush.com port 10275 !
i checked uploads just minute ago. only four have uploaded wannabe gods. and yes it is supposed to start today. saturday. GreenwichMeanTime 15.00. gmt -5 is 10.00 am, so you might be still a sleep aku.

NORFLEET if your reading this. famous people list or what da **** it is. put it 15 instead of 10. this is very IMPORTANT.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by drool:
NORFLEET if your reading this. famous people list or what da **** it is. put it 15 instead of 10. this is very IMPORTANT. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Right, I gotcha: HoF 15, the setting everyone seems to like. I take it the game will not be starting today, however, since the forum downtime seems to have thrown everyone off.

[Boron]

perhaps we should try next saturday the blitz start cause still only 4 pretenders are uploaded

[drool]

yea right..

[Aku]

The forum finally loaded up for me. It has been down for like two days. Bud(Man) and I(Mictlan) have our pretenders made but can't upload yet because we are at public computers and I decided to check the forum to see if it would load. Excluding the four uploaded pretenders, bud and me make 6 people, any contact with the remaining two players? We could possibly start later today when contact is established with everyone.

May I suggest we reorganize to play around gmt 20:00 due to the forum downtime or start tomorrow if we can organize everyone possibly?

[Pickles]

"We could possibly start later today when contact is established with everyone. "

I neeed more notice for tomorrow. We need to set a time to start and include that in the set up - ie MP game startign saturday 18th at 1500 GMT for 5 hours then daily or whatever. Gert people to sign up for teh whole deal & see what we get.

Pickles

[Pickles]

"We could possibly start later today when contact is established with everyone. "

I need more notice for tomorrow. We need to set a time to start and include that in the set up - ie MP game startign saturday 18th at 1500 GMT for 5 hours then daily or whatever. Gert people to sign up for teh whole deal & see what we get.

Pickles

[Aku]

I have my pretended uploaded. Bud(Man) is going to upload his within the next 10 minutes.

Anyone heard from?

starswarsluke-caelum
jdsherrey-vanheim

If we are setting for daily or whatever we are doing at a set time could it be like mid afternoon or evening...mornings suck.

Or possibly put it on quick host? That way you can stop in every now and then and do a turn. Would probably let us do several turns a day. I bet we could go through at least 20 turns in an hour if it is possible to organize 8 people for one time. The forum going down for two days messed up communication a lot.

[Tannath]

By mistake I chose Atlantis (I am already controlling Abysia), so if someone wants to choose Atlantis please do, if not, you could made it computer controlled Norfleet http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif . Sorry.

[drool]

i made same kinda mistake with man.. my opinion of atlantis is to close it for good. no need for any extra nations in this map.

so, should we try to start tomorrow? same time?

has any body heard of those 2 fellas?
swLuke and jdsherrey? what if they dont show up tomorrow?

[ July 10, 2004, 22:58: Message edited by: drool ]

[Norfleet]

Atlantis is Deleted. So is Man a real nation as well, or should I have it Deleted?

[Pickles]

"so, should we try to start tomorrow? same time?

has any body heard of those 2 fellas?
swLuke and jdsherrey? what if they dont show up tomorrow?"

While I should be able to make this I do think it is a bit harsh on anyone who is out of communication & also would hate to start with AI nations as they are destabilising.

I think we ought to start next weekend, regretably, or just start with 24h deadlines & quickhost so we get as many turns done by next weekend as we would if we waited.

Oh and Norfleet thank you for your patience

Pickles

[Aku]

dont delete man, the person for man is a rl friend he will have his pretender uploaded today

how about we just do 24hr hosting or 12 hr maybe for at least first week bec its quick turns?

that would be 28 turns(12 hr hosting) by next weekend...everyone say aye?

[Pickles]

how about we just do 24hr hosting or 12 hr maybe for at least first week bec its quick turns?

that would be 28 turns(12 hr hosting) by next weekend...everyone say aye?

you need just one suggestion for this so I suggest:

12 hour plus quickhost starting ASAP for 1 week followed by whaterver was originally suggested(!)

Pickles

[Aku]

norfleet, man needs to be deleted for the real man pretender to be added, sorry for the confusion

we also need caelum and vanheim to upload their pretenders

when we get it all fixed up we can get the 12hr hosting started

[starwarsluke]

Alright I just got back from vacation and will upload my pretender now. Thank you all again for waiting. Just to double check we have not decided if and when we are blitzing or even when the game will start.

[Aku]

well i think we are just going to do 12hr hosting for the first week because getting 8 ppl from different time zones together is a pain in the ***

ok so we just need to hear from jdsherrey-vanheim and when the current man pretender gets deleted the real one can be uploaded then we will be set

pickle and i give an aye for 12hr hosting once everyone is uploaded...everyone else say aye?

[starwarsluke]

I am confident that I can manage twelve hour hosting. Also I believe I have now uploaded my pretender but since this is the first network game I have succesfully managed to play I am not sure so if someone would double check for me it would be greatly appreciated. I also have another question which is, is there some way to stop another player from going and overwritting your pretender for your nation in a network game?

[Aku]

I am not too sure because this is a first for me as well but I am almost positive your pretender is loaded up because it says caelum is controlled by a human player now. Hmm I went to test the override thing and when you select a nation it asks you if you wish to override it. Now will it actually do it if you hit ok...I am not sure. I don't know if the admin has to delete the pretender or if it will actually let you override. I think everyone here is their first time on multi except norfleet but he is just hosting.

[ July 11, 2004, 02:07: Message edited by: Aku ]

[Norfleet]

If you hit okay after trying to upload into an occupied slot, it will overwrite the existing pretender with yours.

[Aku]

Thanks for the info Norfleet. I will tell my friend also that he can just overwrite the current Man prentender that shouldnt be there. Then all we need is JDScherrey to upload their vanheim pretender and we are set.

[Norfleet]

Vergoot. Once everyone's up, just let me know, and I'll put the game on 24h/quickhost with the settings below.

To avoid confusion, it'd be nice if drool restated what settings he wanted again, so I don't have to dig them out of the spamscroll and risk being confused by something somebody else said.

As for whatever time you ladies want to setup for a blitz session....with so many people, that's unlikely. And not my problem. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[drool]

4 norfleet:
starting provinces1, ind7, normal richnes, magic sites 35, random events common, research normal, standard victory. one turn for 24h (quickhost). map aran. HoF 15.


ermor
jotun
caelum
vanheim
abysia
ulm
mictlan
man

(i cant handle the 12h qoickhost. im a working man and id stale every morning turns. because at mornings im physically wrecked and not able to think or do anything wise (and always just in time at work). sorry guys)

-drool

[Aku]

should we start the 24 hour hosting tomorrow(sunday) after all pretenders are uploaded? only problem is that there is no word yet from JDScherrey.

[drool]

i cant understand this. why is Jds ip logged, but man himnself is not a round? has he died, or is he using public comp? should we start without the starter of this thread? there is so many questions without answers.. it makes me all dizzy..

[Aku]

ok the real pretender for man is uploaded

jds is vanheim but hasnt uploaded yet

we have everyone uploaded but jds...anyone heard from jds at all?

[ July 11, 2004, 18:25: Message edited by: Aku ]

[Aku]

anyone know what is going on?

[Aku]

anyone know what is going on?

[Norfleet]

Well, as completely wild speculation unbacked by any rumor or statement as of yet, I'm going to guess that some sort of gruesome accident occurred. This was, after all, his idea, so for him to suddenly and unexpectedly disappear, something unpleasant must have happened to him.

[Aku]

I looked back on this thread and the Last post made by JDS is june 29th. So almost two weeks without any word from him...Norfleet's idea sounds reasonable lol.

[drool]

so we are going to start without JD? i`ve sent him mail earlier today, and have had no answer whatsoever. this is what i have in mind, we start without JD.. if anyone has something to say. better say it before 12 hours passes. after 12h you can launch it Norfleet. and if there is some rookie reading this and wants to take part in serious noobie action. you are welcome to join us. but we need only onew, and if nobody shows up. we play 7vs7.

[ July 12, 2004, 20:28: Message edited by: drool ]

[Aku]

ok so in less than 12 hours it is being launched with the settings below (copying from below post)

4 norfleet:
starting provinces1, ind7, normal richnes, magic sites 35, random events common, research normal, standard victory. one turn for 24h (quickhost). map aran. HoF 15.


ermor
jotun
caelum
vanheim
abysia
ulm
mictlan
man

(i cant handle the 12h qoickhost. im a working man and id stale every morning turns. because at mornings im physically wrecked and not able to think or do anything wise (and always just in time at work). sorry guys)

-drool


I pasted your post again so nobody has to scroll down for them. If a new player decides to join us soon the Vanheim player is the one that is MIA so they can choose either vanheim or any other nation that isnt on the list. Watch me land up two provinces away from someone else and die right away lmfao. Anyway our newbie game will let us see how a game is when you arent fighting the AI.

[drool]

any time now norfleet.

[Norfleet]

Game is now up at kludgemush.com 10275

LET THE CARNAGE BEGIN!

[Tannath]

I can´t play my turn. I can connect to the server, but when I choose to play my turn (Abysia) I receive an error message : "Myloadmalloc: can't open ./mods/zenvision.dm" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif
Is this a problem with my computer or with the server?

[drool]

sir, clueless newbie reporting error your highnes, sir! sir, there seems to be mod missing, sir! sir, game stated something about "cant open ./mods/ZenVision.dm" (?), sir! i wonder where i can get the mod? is it somekind newbie-tactics-spying-tool?

-drool

[Aku]

it let me select my nation (mictlan)

hrm but when i go to do my turn i get that same error message as you guys

[Tannath]

I think we should cast "Call Norfleet" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[drool]

ah sum porcanaah.
se civ vis purca nahtatoor.
norfleet.
norfleet.
norfleet.

[Boron]

i thought we play aran ?!?
that file should be zen's cradle mod but don't we play aran ?

[drool]

really. then mighty norfleet has made a mistake.

i have forseen this to happen.
in my signature.

[ July 13, 2004, 16:11: Message edited by: drool ]

[Aku]

yeah it is suppose to be aran...anyone able to do their turn yet?

[Norfleet]

Oops. How did that get turned on? Bloody self-activating mods. Well, at least nobody was able to upload anything, so I can rebang the game easily enough. One moment.

[Aku]

norfleet must be fixing it because i can no longer connect anymore, so he must be changing something

[drool]

ok.

[ July 13, 2004, 16:14: Message edited by: drool ]

[Aku]

hey drool is editing his Posts lol, so my post of lol now didnt make sense so i had to edit it now also

[ July 13, 2004, 16:16: Message edited by: Aku ]

[Norfleet]

Eet is feexed. Try again.

[Aku]

the same zenvision error thingy still happens

do i just need to download a file or something real fast?

[ July 13, 2004, 16:18: Message edited by: Aku ]

[Tannath]

It works. I am playing my turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Norfleet]

It shouldn't still be happening. Try deleting your old game first.

[drool]

deleting works. thanks. im playing.

[ July 13, 2004, 16:27: Message edited by: drool ]

[Aku]

thanks norfleet, that fixed it

i didnt know it made a game file labeled clueless newbs in my list of saved games lmfao

[Aku]

drool delete the old game of this...the title is obvious...clueless newbs

lmfao

anyway i have a stupid question...so it will host every 24 hours now like at this time?

[Tannath]

Thanks for everything Norfleet.

I just finished my first turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

[Aku]

im happy with my spawn point so far, as long as none of you guys are a few provinces away lol

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Aku:
im happy with my spawn point so far, as long as none of you guys are a few provinces away lol <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It is almost assuredly so, given that there are 7 people and you're playing Aran.

SOMEBODY is not gonna be happy with their starting position. Then again, maybe you're all too clueless to recognize a FUBAR start when you see one. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[Aku]

lmfao

and i just noticed no score charts, so i guess you dont know you are doing crappy until you have a huge enemy force pop up at your border lol

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Aku:
and i just noticed no score charts, so i guess you dont know you are doing crappy until you have a huge enemy force pop up at your border lol <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That's what scouts and spies are for. Learn to use 'em. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Aku]

bah lol

[Boron]

yeah now we finally started and all seems to work http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
my starting point looks quite well too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Aku]

should it be set to quick host for like the first week?

it doesnt do any harm and may let us do more than one turn a day

[drool]

it is quickhost. isnt it norfleet?

[Aku]

its on 24hr hosting

dont think anyway to know about if it is on quickhost unless everyone did their turn and it hosted

[Norfleet]

It's on 24h quickhost: Meaning that the game will force-host in 24 hours, or will quickhost when everyone has finished their turn. If it quickhosts, the timer is reset. You will never stale if you check at least once every 24h.

[drool]

so.. do mictlan and man use same computer? hotseatin that is. just curious.. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Aku]

nope, hes a friend of mine, he lives nearby

i talked to him this morning before the server was up, ill give him a call in a little bit to tell him the server is up and he can do his turn because he probably doesnt know he can do his turn already

[Aku]

ok man did his turn

its on turn 2 now, just letting everyone know

[Klatu]

Hey All, just thought I'd say hello. I am playing MAN in our newbie game.

Yeah my name is Bud, but since y'all have such interesting (cough, cough) names, i gave myself one - Klatu

[Aku]

Those first two mercenaries...im curious did people try to bid on them and got outbidded or nobody really likes mercenaries?

[Klatu]

I bid and got mercenaries round 2. I sometimes use mercs in early game.

Where o where is ermour? We're waiting! LOL

[Klatu]

I haven't had any problems with connecting to the server. Are you getting any kind of message?

[Aku]

boron you connecting fine to the server?

i havent had any problems at all

[Norfleet]

There are no server outages, since I've been logged into the server continuously. You probably just had a router outage somewhere.

[Boron]

shame on me i wrote wrongly clugdemush.com as the server adress on my notice paper where my different games are noticed and didn't notice for 1 hour that your server is written with k instead of c .
"hides in the shadows from coming assasination attempts http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif "

[Aku]

it quickhosted, we are on turn 5 now!!!

[Norfleet]

Huzzah! Who's winning?

[Aku]

Well we can go to turn 6 when caleum does their turn.

I have a funny feeling that caelum took a hard hit because they had someone on the hall of fame when i checked it on turn 2. Now its indy 7 and I think caelum lost that blind attack they did on the first turn.

Man has the #1 hof spot with a mercenary. My god(mictlan) is 2nd with jotums prophet in 3rd and abysia god in 4th and my mercenary with 5th. Ulm has 3 of the lower end of the hof board.

I dont think anyone has run into each other yet so i assume nobody got screwed with their spawns.

There have only been 2 merc units in the game with me controlling one and man controlling the other one.

Maybe we will have some nation contact by turn 10 to get a better idea of how everyone is doing.

[Aku]

ok i dug up the list of players from page 7 lol

boron-ermor
pickles-jotun
starswarsluke-caelum
tannath-abysia
drool-ulm
aku-mictlan
klatu-man

[Aku]

its on turn 6 now!!!

[Boron]

is the server down at the moment ?!?
i wanted to play my turn now but can't connect ?

[Klatu]

It might help estimate turning if we know where in the "real" world we all are.

Klatu - Man is in NY, USA.

[Boron]

does anyone else have problems with the server expect me ? did the port or something change ?

[Boron]

i am from regensburg , germany

[Aku]

New York, USA

[drool]

hellsinki, finland.
should we blitz tomorrow?
same time.

[Aku]

how about at around gmt 20:00-21:00ish

i wont be free until then tomorrow

[Tannath]

Portugal. Blitz whenever you want, I'm on vacations http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

[Aku]

turn 7 is up

[Aku]

we just need boron, starwarsluke, and pickles to quickhost to turn 8 now and things are starting to get interesting

[Aku]

Anyone want to share how they are doing?

I think I am doing good and I have a feeling that ulm is doing good as well. I think abysia's guy on the hof is misleading to how he is doing. Then you have caelum and ermor with nobody on the hof...bad start?

Anyone else want to throw guesses around?

[Tannath]

This in not going very well for me, I had a slow start and lost 1 province 2 turns ago. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

About the other players I think Ulm and Mictlan must be doing good, because they have a lot of leaders in the hof, and the god of Mictlan has a lot of kills. I'm wondering what is the pretender of Mictlan, a Lord of the night?

[Boron]

i have a special province as neighbor with a golem leader with gargoyles . i wonder if i ever conquer the province ^^
but expect this my starting position is not bad i think

[Aku]

I am using Moloch. I havent tried Lord of the Night yet. I will probably try that pretender next time if i stay with mictlan. I am interested in using Abysia with blood magic for another time.

Tannath you lost a province to another nation or by misfortune if you wish to share?

I am curious if anybody has fought each other yet. I know a bunch of us probably see enemy dominion already.

And Ulm has been going up that hof chart quickly but this turn they just lost their prophet. Going by the hof chart I assume that Ulm and I have the most provinces but it is still really early.

Oh and it is funny how nobody is recruiting those horrible hobbit mercenaries lol.

[ July 16, 2004, 21:10: Message edited by: Aku ]

[Pickles]

I have seen Abysia itself. I saw the battle when he conquered his province & noticed it go neutral again. We are really close together.

I have had OK expansion - as expected really. I have tried going faster than usual but have bounced a bit so not gained much. Those flying pretenders rack up lots of kills in pursuit so they can get a high score in just one battle. My troops do my fighing (being as they are big & blue) so my bosses look less impressive.

Pickles

[Aku]

Someone is close to me as well but I expanded the other way and have some strong independents as a barrier between us.

Boron and StarWarsLuke...do your turns so we can quickhost lol. The next few turns are probably going to tell a lot.

[Tannath]

I lost 1 province because it was attacked by an AI barbarian horde http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

I haven't fought the orher players yet.

[ July 16, 2004, 22:22: Message edited by: Tannath ]

[Aku]

i usually use province defense to stop those independent misfortune attacks, doesnt stop all of them but it stops a good amount of them

[Boron]

hm i see an enemy dominion beyond me . only 2 provinces away .
hopefully this doesn't draw me in an early war .
the problem is if my dominion really spreads in someones provinces i don't want this myself but that would be not so nice . it's evil for every living race but especially for ulm and abysia in the early game .

[Aku]

Well negative dominions kind of make it hard to be diplomatic because the other nations will want to kill you as fast as possible so their provinces arent ruined and also your current provinces are crap to them if they let you stay using them. I cant picture ermor with allies because they harm everyone.

[Aku]

so for saturday...any conflicts to do a possible blitzing at like 20:00 - 21:00 gmt, i give the range bec you know everyone will be late

[Pickles]

London, England

I have met people but they have not met me.

Pickles

[Boron]

Originally posted by Aku:
Well negative dominions kind of make it hard to be diplomatic because the other nations will want to kill you as fast as possible so their provinces arent ruined and also your current provinces are crap to them if they let you stay using them. I cant picture ermor with allies because they harm everyone. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">as long as you keep my dominion out which is not so hard in general it doesn't hurt you.
the only problem is if you start only 3 provinces away from ermor because ermor has normally a bit higher starting domain than everyone else.

my direct neighbors are crap for everyone else exept me and pan CW because 15 turns under the influence of my dominion are enough to almost totally depopulate them even without conquering them . so ~ 10-15 provinces directly neighboring me or only 2 provinces away will most likely be depopulated by turn 15-20 almost always.
but after this my dominion will not expand much more if i don't push it via temples and this is only a latergame option for me if i don't get gold from someone else or via lucky events .

but i don't see why ermor always needs to be attacked asap .
my almost total 1 dimensionality to death is even easier to beat mid-late game than early game since earlygame at least your troops will starve .

[Aku]

turn 8 is up

Pillaging provinces for gold can get you a good amount for temples also. And about attacking ermor the sooner the better is because the longer your dominion is running in your land when it is taken over the land is kind of worthless to any living nation.

[Boron]

Originally posted by Aku:
turn 8 is up

Pillaging provinces for gold can get you a good amount for temples also. And about attacking ermor the sooner the better is because the longer your dominion is running in your land when it is taken over the land is kind of worthless to any living nation. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">bah
you still get the gems from the magic sites . that's the most important income from every province http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

the ermorian coreland is always depopolated no matter how quick you are .

if we really blitz today i can't join before ~21.30 gmt unfortunately http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[Aku]

ok no problem boron, looks like only me and drool are connected right now and man will be soon

[Boron]

Originally posted by Aku:
ok no problem boron, looks like only me and drool are connected right now and man will be soon <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">i connected now to the server only starswarsluke is missing with his turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

but i think it is really difficult to blitz once there are more than 5 players .

[Aku]

yeah, we have too many different time zones for it to work =[

[Tannath]

I have been around waiting for the next turn. I can blitz this night, at least for the next 2 or 3 hours.

[Tannath]

Take a look at http://www.the-battlefield.com/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=27&t=202, it's a tournament of Dom2, there are still a lot of empty slots.

[Aku]

new turn is up

and it seems i just killed somebodys scout

[drool]

so where o where is boron?

[Aku]

hmm it seems a lot of us are close to each other

[drool]

yes thats true. 'Man is the only one without neighbours right now.

[Aku]

actually thats not true lol

he has seen a few of you guys with spies, he just expanded the opposite way

[Boron]

i dunno http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Aku]

just realized turn 12 is up!!!

only abysia and jotum have done their turns so far

[Klatu]

Thought i'd make some comments so y'all would know I'm alive.

Like my spwaning spot a lot. Things are going well, I think. But sure, now that i've said it, it will be all downhill! LOL.

Wierd getting used to playing without the score graphs. BTW, I've found most of you. I agree with Aku, the next turn or two should get very interesting.

[drool]

things are gettin so interesting, so would it be a crazy idea to blitz some night? just a couple of turns maybe.

[ July 19, 2004, 15:22: Message edited by: drool ]

[Boron]

Originally posted by drool:
things are gettin so interesting, so would it be a crazy idea to blitz some night? just a couple of turns maybe. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">i've unfortunately only time until 21.30 gmt because i have to go to university at 8.00 tomorrow http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[Aku]

i think everyone would like to blitz but the most we get on at a time is 5 out of 7 lol

and yeah this is interesting with everyone bordering each other

me and abysia been bordering each other a few turns already and we have just been sitting there being peaceful lol

anyone attack each other yet?

[Boron]

Originally posted by Aku:
i think everyone would like to blitz but the most we get on at a time is 5 out of 7 lol

and yeah this is interesting with everyone bordering each other

me and abysia been bordering each other a few turns already and we have just been sitting there being peaceful lol

anyone attack each other yet? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">for me nope . but i guess in 3-4 turns there will be no indep borders between me and at Last one other player too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

[Aku]

comon boron do your turn and starwarsluke lol

anybody find starwarsluke(caelum)...have no clue where he is

i know where everybody is but him

its going to get real messy when everyone starts attacking each other

[Aku]

caelum just logged into his turn, if you do your turn boron we can quickhost!!!

[Boron]

Originally posted by Aku:
caelum just logged into his turn, if you do your turn boron we can quickhost!!! <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">did my turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
a question : the manplayer around is he standard man or Last of tuatha ?

[Aku]

muahahaha we got quickhosted to turn 14!!!

[Aku]

tannath...im going to send you some pms in forum so you dont get it a turn later in game

[Aku]

so boron are you ashen empire or soul gate?

and i just told man you asked him a question on the forums so hes going to check soon

[Klatu]

Hey Boron...I'm playing standard man. Why?

[Aku]

new turn is up

drool(ulm) did you get to do your turn in time? it was getting pretty close to manually hosting

[drool]

yeah i got it.

[Boron]

Originally posted by Klatu:
Hey Boron...I'm playing standard man. Why? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">i was just curious because i recently discovered my liking for Last of tuatha http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Aku]

only abysia(tannath) and ermor(boron) left to do their turns for it to quickhost

[Aku]

turn 16 is up!!!

[Aku]

turn 18 is up!!!

[Aku]

I was curious if we could get another hoster maybe this same group could start a second game with different nations so it would be two games playing with the same group of people. Just a thought.

[drool]

what an fine idea.

[Aku]

Probably a lot of us would pick different nations unless the nation you have you know it is the nation you really like. I and probably others are still experimenting with nations and/or pretenders so playing a second game with our group here would be a lot of fun since we are kind of familiar with each other already.

So anyone got a spare computer that can act as the server?

And I wonder what ever happened to JDScherryey.

[ July 23, 2004, 05:24: Message edited by: Aku ]

[Aku]

Only starwarsluke has to do his turn for it to quickhost.

And only drool has replied to my idea...I want some feedback.

[Lex]

hey, if you guys have room for one more person, i've been looking for a game.. haven't played a MP game of Dominions2 yet..

[Pickles]

"And only drool has replied to my idea...I want some feedback."

I am interested but I am playing 3 games all at the same stage, turn 20 odd (this is behind but catching up). The turns will start to take longer at which point I do not know if I will have the time (assuming I am not eliminated in any)

So assuming I will either get eliminated or switch to a slower schedule in the mid - end game I am in.

Pickles

[Aku]

alexi...everyone here are newbies, majority is that this game we are in right now is our first so i dont see a problem of putting you in if this second game actually happens

basically all we need is a host and enough of us that want to participate

[Cainehill]

Originally posted by Aku:
I was curious if we could get another hoster maybe this same group could start a second game with different nations so it would be two games playing with the same group of people. Just a thought. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">In a pinch, y'all might get Norfleet to host a game for you on Kludgemush. His price is that he gets to give the game a nice snarky (snide sarcastic) name, but his server is second only to mosehansen.

[Boron]

new turn is up did my turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Klatu]

Well Norfleet is currently hosting our game right now and really don't want to bother him about hosting another. I on the hand have my computer on 24hours and would have no problem with hosting a server for us to run our second game(and then I can come up with the wildly sarcastic name lol).

Aku, Drool, Pickles(maybe), new guy Alexi, anyone else so far? We would need to decide on a map and game settings.

Post your responses on the thread please.

[Cainehill]

Originally posted by Klatu:
Well Norfleet is currently hosting our game right now and really don't want to bother him about hosting another. I on the hand have my computer on 24hours and would have no problem with hosting a server for us to run our second game(and then I can come up with the wildly sarcastic name lol).
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Okay, cool. Have you tried hosting before? If you have a firewall or router, it may need to be tweaked to open up a port and whatnot. Depending on the firewall, this may take minutes, or it may take hours - might want to do a trial run and have someone try to connect.

If you've already gone through this before, I'll shut up http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif but it can be frustrating, especially after you've already announced the start of the game.

[Klatu]

yes I have hosted before.

[Aku]

yeah we have tested it with me connecting to klatu before

for game settings...norfleet recommended when we started our current game to play karan...you guys want to give it a try

if we play karan there were 3 files...do we dl them all?

also for events they happen like every turn on common but on rare they still happen a lot but it isnt bad...so i recommend the 2nd game for events to be on rare

also for magic sites...how about at least 50 this time?

indep strength i guess 6 or 9 i dunno, 7 indep like we have now just seemed odd

world richness...either normal or rich...no clue on that one

put hof on 15 and renaming allowed

these are just suggestions to get the ball rolling

for my nation i would like to try out abysia if tannath isnt using them again

[ July 24, 2004, 04:43: Message edited by: Aku ]

[Norfleet]

Maybe you should start another thread for this other game of yours. Otherwise it gets kinda hard for me to sort out when somebody is referring to the game I'm hosting, or the game you're hosting.

[Aku]

ok ill start up the 2nd thread...so guys post in the other thread the suggestions for the 2nd game...ill label it MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)

[Aku]

I cant check the game right now but if you guys are waiting for me and klatu to do our turns we will be home within the hour to do them. I hope it quickhosted so we can do a new turn lol.

[Aku]

ah man i guess a new turn didnt quickhost =[

[Aku]

new turn is up, sorry about the wait

[Aku]

Caelum died...so Starwarsluke you want to tell us about it?

[drool]

just pickles and klaatu left to their turns.

[ July 26, 2004, 19:46: Message edited by: drool ]

[Aku]

Klatu is in middle of something at home. If Pickles gets to his turn first I can always call Klatu up and he will hop on to do his turn.

[starwarsluke]

Opps sorry accidently double posted my reply.

[ July 27, 2004, 01:56: Message edited by: starwarsluke ]

[starwarsluke]

I got off to a bad start. One of my mistakes was overreliance on archers. Also as I believe you guessed Aku I did do a attack on the first turn and lost most of my archers. however I did not actually intend to win that attack but instead do a hit and run. However I had my archers were there one turn too long apparently and the barbarians I attacked took most of my archers out. I then encountered Pickles we made a treaty but it ended when Pickles thought I had cast seeking arrow on him. I am willing to bet that Klatu was responsible considering he was the only other nation in the game other than me with strong air magic. When the treatie ended Pickles came in and crushed the poor excuse of an army I had.

[Klatu]

Hey Luke, I didn't do any seeking arrow on anyone. Ulms god has a whole rainbow of magic. He might have.

[Norfleet]

Well, kudos to whoever pulled that one off. That seeking arrow to cause a war thing was sneaky and underhanded. I approve!

[drool]

am i being accused of shooting a seeking arrow? klatu is just trying to turn jotunheim against me! keep in-game thingies in game. ok? or ill start to sing songs of your bards causing unrest across the continent.. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif songs of freedom my hairy arse..

[Pickles]

The seeking arrow(s) was annoying but it became a case of "Remember the Maine!" - Caelum was ripe for the taking and he might have cast seeking arrow.

Man can cast seeking arrow as can Ermor (pretender I assume) so it could be anyone (you are all on my little list)

The ****** unrest might be Man's bard's or Ulms spies & they will not own up I expect.

Pickles

[Aku]

lmfao this is getting really good

everyone is getting really paranoid

[Aku]

looks like nobody participated in the arena deathmatch

[drool]

i thought that there would be jotun giant ruling over everybody.. or some ermorian horror, so i decided not to sacrifice my fine items for nothing. do you get any other price than that darn trident from those matches? anybody knows?

[Aku]

you only get the trident =[

[drool]

and of course you get kill every other combatant. sometimes even pretender:)

[Pickles]

You seem to get lots of XP too but that may just be the fighting.

I forgot to go ...

Thrym

[Aku]

Pickles you would of won by default because nobody went lmfao.

[Aku]

turn 34 just went up

[Pickles]

I have been having trouble getting into this game today. I hangs on the "getting game information" screen. I got in long enough to do my turn but cannot check (paranoid)

It is only this one - other games run OK
Anyone else have trouble?

Pickles

[Aku]

just on one try today but i closed the game bec it didnt look like it was connecting and tried again immediately and it worked fine

[drool]

im having same kind of "getting game information" problems.

[Aku]

maybe the server needs a reboot?

but drool and pickles keep trying, not sure what else to say

[Norfleet]

The process has been restarted. It is now working again. The timer was reset as a result.

[Aku]

yeah i just tested it

it connects super fast now

thanks norfleet

[Aku]

Tannath I am not sure if you staled by accident or because you felt there was nothing to do in your turn but at least log into your Last turn so you can read my in game message. The in game message I hope you get the turn that is up now because if it is not there then it was on the turn prior that staled.

[Aku]

turn 42 is up