MP Game - Pandemonium (noob/int game) - running

[Thufir]

Lepakko said:
we lost first player?


Well, Anatoli is the third to go AI, and technically nobody has been eliminated. However, Jotunheim will likely be eliminated in the next turn or two.

[Lepakko]

we need to keep list of dead player if we going to keep it ladder game

[deccan]

Thufir said:
Well, Anatoli is the third to go AI, and technically nobody has been eliminated. However, Jotunheim will likely be eliminated in the next turn or two.



Cool, so I only have to hold out for another one or two turns in order not to be at the bottom? Heh, I was at the bottom of the SEIV Ratings system for ages.

I'm tempted to go AI myself, but I don't want to make things so easy for Boron and Aku. If I go AI, the stupid thing will probably split up Ulm's forces and give them an easy kill. But my biggest gripe right now is how difficult it is to connect to this game. Last week, I needed to connect twice to get in, this week, I need four, five times. This is my only game on mosehansen that does this.

[Thufir]

Lepakko said:
we need to keep list of dead player if we going to keep it ladder game



As I've mentioned previously, I already keep a list, it's on my initial post, just check it out.

[Boron]

deccan said:
But my biggest gripe right now is how difficult it is to connect to this game. Last week, I needed to connect twice to get in, this week, I need four, five times. This is my only game on mosehansen that does this.


I couldn't connect immediately too but what seems to help :
After failing 3 times in a row i didn't close the crashed game but just opened a new one while the old one was still connecting and i got in this way with the first try .

So make a shortcut like Thufir suggested and open it 2-3 times quickly at the same time this should be enough to get in with 1 of the 2-3 open dominions http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[deccan]

Hey got in on the first try today, I guess having someone permanently connected to the game really is a bad thing.

[Aku]

I connected also in first try today. Been a long time since we could do that.

Oh and Frosted Flake(arco) I think you sent a in game message to me by mistake because I do not border you. I am Ermor.

[Aku]

turn 29 is up

[Thufir]

Waiting on Boron.

[Aku]

just ryleh left

[Thufir]

Waiting on Boron

[Thufir]

Esben just clarified the situation with the server, we don't change to the new Version the server is on until the game is restarted. Unless someone objects very soon, I'll restart the game. As I understand it, this is supposed to keep any submitted turns as still submitted (and you should be fine no matter whether you used 2.12 or 2.14), but I think there is some chance we'll have to resubmit our turns.

[Thufir]

This game has been restarted, we're now on 2.14.

[deccan]

Whoa, this game seems to be on overdrive! How can you guys keep up?

[Aku]

just pangaea and ryleh left but ryleh is logged in his turn right now

[Thufir]

Aku said:
just pangaea and ryleh left but ryleh is logged in his turn right now


well, since r'lyeh is in the habit of staying connected 24hrs at a crack, that doesn't signify much.

[Aku]

turn 38 is up

[Aku]

turn 39 is up

[deccan]

Ok, guys, I'm going AI since Boron's nasty little ice devil wiped out my army solo, though at least I gave him a black eye Last turn.

Let me know how it all turns out.

[Aku]

more than a black eye lol...its eye got ripped out lol

But yeah to lose your whole army to one sc does suck. You do get a lot of credit for fighting all the way to the end.

[Aku]

In just two hours everyone has done their turns but abysia and ctis lol. So if you two do your turns we can do another turn today.

[Boron]

deccan said:
Ok, guys, I'm going AI since Boron's nasty little ice devil wiped out my army solo, though at least I gave him a black eye Last turn.

Let me know how it all turns out.


Yeah sucked for me too that your 20 arlabest PD were so lucky to hit him in the eye .
Then i was surprised how well he killed your whole army with your pretender .
Really strange that he didn't get more damage there . I was even thinking of waiting a few more turns but then i thought hell then i resummon the Ice devil when he dies and get rid of the affliction .

I admired how patient you did the Last 10 turns anyway . I guess i would have turned ai . You really played until 5 minutes after midnight gratulations .

Well now i have a Cyclops Icedevil http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif

[Thufir]

Way to stick it out, Deccan - hope to catch you in the next one!

[Aku]

turn 40 is up

[Aku]

just mictlan and abysia left (boron and thufir)

[Boron]

Yeah sorry for the delay http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Today i got my combat mission anthology . Damn this game is really good . I had to force myself to play dominions today http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
But no need to be concerned this is only temporary http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Shocking how strong the russians are in B2B http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Aku]

turn 41 is up

[Aku]

just boron left

[Aku]

turn 42 is up!

oh and boron did you get to your turn in time?

[deccan]

Heh, Boron is probably busy playing with his new game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Aku]

found out that boron didnt stale

turn 43 is now up!

[Aku]

turn 44 is up!

[Aku]

Just Pangaea and Abysia left.

Anyone want to do any talking now that things are getting very interesting especially with Ulm, Man, Vanheim, and Jotumheim wiped out already and we have several wars going on right now.

Almost everybody borders everybody right now also. The next 10 turns should be very interesting.

[Thufir]

Aku said:
Just Pangaea and Abysia left.

Anyone want to do any talking now that things are getting very interesting especially with Ulm, Man, Vanheim, and Jotumheim wiped out already and we have several wars going on right now.

Almost everybody borders everybody right now also. The next 10 turns should be very interesting.



Indeed - this Inland map is very good for encouraging warfare!

Currently I'm working on my doomsday weapon which will destroy the massive Tomb Wyrm armies that C'tis thinks will be my bane. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif We will only submit our turn when our weapon has been perfected (which will certainly be within 8 hrs, but hopefully sooner).

[Thufir]

Sorry that turn took so long, but turn 45 is finally up.

[Aku]

turn 46 is up

[Aku]

Just Abysia and Mictlan left.

The charts are looking very interesting also. A lot of ups and downs on the province stat board.

[Aku]

turn 47 is up

[Aku]

only pan left to do turn

[Aku]

turn 48 is up

[Thufir]

Boron, ya there? Just you to go.

[Aku]

Well Boron is in Germany so its past 8pm for him so I hope he logs in soon.

Oh and Thufir you expanded a lot this turn. Did you attack Ryleh because the graphs show him lose a province or was it a misfortune event. I am also curious about Pangaea because he has been very quiet for a long time now. I think Pan and Ryleh are the only nations that havent had one war yet this game.

Arco got screwed big time also. When I invaded him I didnt expect Abysia to be attacking him also lol. Thufir when did you go to war with Arco? Did it just happen to be the same turn I went to war with him?

[Thufir]

Aku said:
Well Boron is in Germany so its past 8pm for him so I hope he logs in soon.

Oh and Thufir you expanded a lot this turn. Did you attack Ryleh because the graphs show him lose a province or was it a misfortune event. I am also curious about Pangaea because he has been very quiet for a long time now. I think Pan and Ryleh are the only nations that havent had one war yet this game.

Arco got screwed big time also. When I invaded him I didnt expect Abysia to be attacking him also lol. Thufir when did you go to war with Arco? Did it just happen to be the same turn I went to war with him?



Well, the deal with Arco was that I went in to attack the C'tis army that was sieging there (you have noticed that there is no more C'tis army - you should keep in mind what Abysia does to undead armies http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif). Then I saw your huge army invading, and I decided that I didn't want you to take the province (as it is deep into other provinces that I already own), so I took it myself. Though I would be happy to offer recompense, I gather Arco is rather unhappy with Abysia now.

As for R'lyeh, I took a province that we had both agreed was mine earlier on (prior to the C'tis invasion). We don't expect to be able to continue such a rapid expansion right now, as things stand we merely took advantage of the collapse of C'tis' southern defenses.

I see Boron just took a turn in another game I'm in, so I imagine he will take his turn here, as well.

[Aku]

turn 49 is up!

[Thufir]

Aku said:
turn 49 is up!



2 turns in a day, when we're near turn 50 - awesome!

[Aku]

turn 50 is up and only abysia, pangaea and mictlan are left

[Aku]

turn 51 is up

[Aku]

Things arent looking too good for Arco. We had a big battle at his capital. For people looking at the armies graph...the troops I lost were all cannon fodder. The second wave of the undead hordes are about to hit Arco again. Oh and I am holding back all of my good troops. If anyone is doubting this...please attack me so I can have more targets.

Lets see if Arco can stop the 2nd wave from pillaging his capital to the ground muahahahahaha.

And Abysia I notice all your temples going along the border to stop my dominion spread. And Pangaea with his army along my border just sitting there. Just remember...anybody who attacks me is pointless because every province I take from you will get pillaged so fighting me is a no win situation.

[Frosted Flake]

And what did you kill of mine that mattered? LOL
I am only in trouble because people who have defense agreeements with me are attacking me " so ermor doesnt get it all". You cant be happy losing 900 undead even tho i know you have more. Shame on the traitorous Boron!

[Thufir]

Aku said:
And Abysia I notice all your temples going along the border to stop my dominion spread.


Such threats against the peace loving peoples of Abysia - we simply do not understand!



Just remember...anybody who attacks me is pointless because every province I take from you will get pillaged so fighting me is a no win situation.

So, then it is Arco who attacked you? It seems to us that attacking you or not makes little difference...

[Thufir]

Just PrinzMegaherz left.

[Boron]

Frosted Flake said:
And what did you kill of mine that mattered? LOL
I am only in trouble because people who have defense agreeements with me are attacking me " so ermor doesnt get it all". You cant be happy losing 900 undead even tho i know you have more. Shame on the traitorous Boron!


Sorry Frosted Flake . But if i would have attacked ermor i would have been dead in 10 turns . And if i wouldn't have taken a few provinces from you it would have been no difference because ermor would have just needed 5-10 turns more to get your lands and be even stronger than now http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif .

This 900 lost undead were only fodder and the break in scoregraphs in army size is not very impressing at all http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif . Ermor is nasty and unrewarding to fight against http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[Frosted Flake]

So why do you think if he kills me he wont roll right into you? just curious?

frosty

[Aku]

turn 52 is up

[Aku]

turn 53 is up

[PrinzMegaherz]

I wasnt aware that Arco is under attack from all sides. I actually attacked he is at war with C'tis, and I consider C'tis to be much more of help against Ermor later in the game then arco could ever be

[Boron]

Frosted Flake said:
So why do you think if he kills me he wont roll right into you? just curious?

frosty


Well with your lands i will have means to defend against him by then .
Really evil what happened to you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif .
You should have asked ermor before what he thinks when you participate in the war againt Ctis .
Ermor behaved like great britain fearing the balance of power is disturbed http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif .

[Aku]

turn 54 is up

[Thufir]

Waiting on msew.

[Aku]

turn 55 is up

[Thufir]

waiting on msew - hope this is not another stale!

[Aku]

turn 57 is up

[Aku]

turn 58 is up

[Aku]

anyone else having problems joining into the game? the game stops responding when you try to log into it

[Thufir]

Aku said:
anyone else having problems joining into the game? the game stops responding when you try to log into it

I had the same problem, so I just restarted the game, and that seems to have straightened things out.

[Aku]

I can get in now but it seems we have to use the old trick of opening it once then opening it a second time while the first one is crashing then it lets you in.

Just Boron left.

[Aku]

turn 60 is up!

[Aku]

turn 61 is up

[Thufir]

Lepakko, looks like you staled - are you still out there?

I understand there's not much left for you to do here, but could you at least set yourself to AI, if you're not interested in playing this out?

Thanks,

Thufir

[Thufir]

If no one objects, I will set Lepakko to AI if we're waiting on just him again this turn. That's a bit agressive in that I'm not waiting for the usual 2 stale turns before setting AI, but all Lepakko has is one province thats under siege, w/ about 8 units in it, and he can't recruit, so there's really nothing left to be done there.

Lepakko, if you're reading this, you've put up a good fight - you certainly had me on the run in the early going. Hope to meet you in another game!

[Aku]

turn 62 is up

[Aku]

turn 63 is up

[Thufir]

Well, the dreaded Ermor invasion has come at Last. Though we have all abandoned Arcoscephale to their fate, it is as they predicted, and as Arcoscephale goes, so go we all! Most certainly, we declare, let none believe that they may stand if Abysia herself should fall to this new attack.

Abysia is yet weakened from the war with C'tis, and although we recovered much in the time that was alotted us, it was not as much as we hoped. Even so, we are stronger than the dread lords of Ermor know, and there is hope yet! For all who would not submit to Ermor's rule, we bid you contact us. If you fear open warfare with Ermor, then send us whatever support you may: be it with tangible resources (gems or gold), information, or simply moral support - we will be thankful for any of these.

Even more will we be thankful should any nation brave an attack upon Ermor. Foolhardy though this might seem, we expect that Ermor's best commanders and armies will be committed to the destruction of Abysia. There will be chinks in Ermor's armor, and there will come no better time to strike then when Ermor has focused all her will upon us!

Osirus
The Brilliant God

[Aku]

turn 64 is up!

For those that have had me in other games know that I attack with my weakest forces first and only use my best troops when I absolutely need to. It looks like no retaliation has happened to me yet. And nice devil armies you have thufir. It looks like you beat boron to the helios and demon gods too. Oh and Pangaea...I do notice your priests on my border...I may take that as a hostile action.

I hope there is a new turn when I wake up in the morning because these are the really fun turns and if everyone wants to attack me that is your choice if you want to die. After all I am the evil Ermor.

[Thufir]

Aku said:
For those that have had me in other games know that I attack with my weakest forces first and only use my best troops when I absolutely need to.



Rest assured - before this is done, you will know absolute need!

[Aku]

I am looking forward to it and hope this turns into a very interesting war.

[Aku]

turn 65 is up!

[Aku]

Ryleh that province you lost to ghost riders was an accident. Feel free to take it back at anytime. If you want to fight me because of that it is fine but Pangaea would be a much easier target.

[Frosted Flake]

Not dead yet.....Arco will not go quietly into the long goodnight

[Aku]

turn 66 is up, only me and thufir left and im logging into my turn now

[Aku]

Arco has broken the siege of his capital and is now finally free.

Pangaea is building massive amounts of priests on my border and has left me no choice but to attack him.

The war with Abysia is a bit odd. I am waiting for him to boom and every turn I see no retaliation. I guess you like having your lands pillaged Thufir and Pangaea can't save you either.

[Aku]

turn 67 is now up!

[Aku]

Ctis is now finally dead.

Thufir in that battle with one of your main armies...how come they routed? I dont understand why.

Pangaea claims they were not going to attack me but war between our nations will make things more fun. I really have never had much success controlling Pangaea so there is another reason I want the war because I want to see how you control it.

Comon Thufir let me see all your armies at work because you have them all hiding in castles =[. At this rate your lands wont be worth taking back because they are all being pillaged to the ground. I am curious on what your fire gem income is to use 60f in one round. I know you get 20f from the pyre. Is it safe to assume you have lots of fever fetishes? Anyway, I have undead coming in waves so you better get ready to flames from the sky them all. And I am surprised you waited this long to start casting it against me.

[Thufir]

Frosted Flake said:
Not dead yet.....Arco will not go quietly into the long goodnight

Apparently not! Arco certainly gets the surviver of the year award. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif You have our respect - congratulations on a victory against all odds!

[Thufir]

Aku said:
Ctis is now finally dead.

About time! Good of you to finish them off - thanks for saving us the effort. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif



Pangaea claims they were not going to attack me but war between our nations will make things more fun. I really have never had much success controlling Pangaea so there is another reason I want the war because I want to see how you control it.

We of Abysia welcome Pangaea to battle! Do not fear Ermor's bluster - they have large armies, but they melt under fire, as we can say from experience. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif




Thufir in that battle with one of your main armies...how come they routed? I dont understand why.


I don't get it either, I'm going to go over the replay some more, and perhaps post a question on the forum. This is far from the first time I've been both surprised and frustrated by routing mechanics in this game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif




Comon Thufir let me see all your armies at work ...

All in good time. Rest assured you will see us more than frequently enough, when all is said and done!



...
Anyway, I have undead coming in waves so you better get ready to flames from the sky them all. And I am surprised you waited this long to start casting it against me.

Well, those fire gems are awfully hard to come by, but we promise to do our best to make your days sunny and warm. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[deccan]

Thanks for writing these reports, Aku.

It seems that people have a tendency to underestimate Ermor and leave it alone until it's too late. I know I seriously miscalculated how quickly Ermor could overrun Jotunheim in "Musical Chairs". I was also quite surprised in "Newbie Slugfest" when Ermor managed to kill 3 ice devils, and rout a Mictlan army with a goodly number of support priests and Sun Warriors with nothing but undead spam.

Ermor is quite difficult to deal with for most people I think, since SCs don't work on Ermor and no one has the troop numbers to match Ermor, so it's all decided by mages and gem income.

I'll stay tuned to this thread.

[PrinzMegaherz]

I find the idea of Ermor accusing me of being aggressive very strange.

20 priests are an appropriate answer for over 700 undead at my borders. And they were capable of dealing with 5 Ghost riders in one turn.

All of you should know that ermor attacked me although we had a peace treaty. Don't believe his false words and join the Forces of Abysia and Pangaea in their holy crusade against ermor. It's not too late to stop him.

By the way, this is my first try with Pangaea NE, so don't expect to much from me ;-)

[Thufir]

deccan said:
Ermor is quite difficult to deal with for most people I think, since SCs don't work on Ermor and no one has the troop numbers to match Ermor, so it's all decided by mages and gem income.

I'll stay tuned to this thread.

Do stay tuned! Rest assured that we have not underestimated Ermor. You can count on us to continue to leave Ermor off balance and confused, rather than the other way around http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Aku]

turn 68 is up!

Thufir it looks like I have to use more than just ghost riders on your main army lol. Nice combo of the pheonix pyre combined with relief. I did catch your retreating unequipped bane lord with some ghost riders =].

10 of Pangaea's priests died this month too bad the ermorian horde wasnt fast enough to catch the retreating minotaur hero Menopathos.

Another 40f gems spent by Abysia with his magical attacks but my undead hordes are neverending. And over a 1000gp made pillaging the lands of Abysia this month.

It also seems the nation of Arco has decided to attack Mictlan for whatever reasons.

[Frosted Flake]

I am not attacking Mictlan...merely liberating Arco territories

[PrinzMegaherz]

Yes, you cought me at a bad time. My priests were scripted to do some drive by priesting, and your ghost riders attacked before they moved.

[Aku]

turn 69 is up!

[Aku]

megahertz you are going to stale and you were in your turn beforehand but didnt finish it

50 mins before you stale

[PrinzMegaherz]

Hm, though I did my turn I got a stale... what a bad timing...
I think thats the end for pangaea

[Aku]

you may have closed the game and not hit end turn...i ghost rided the death one of your armies with that faery queen and i doubt you magically moved them so they were screwed anyway

im sure you have other armies and its not like i have full attention on you since im fighting you and thufir at the same time

[Aku]

just ryleh and thufir left

[Thufir]

PrinzMegaherz said:
Hm, though I did my turn I got a stale... what a bad timing...
I think thats the end for pangaea

Well, I hope you can stick it out for a while - it'd be a shame for you to miss the decline of the Ermorian Empire. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif But if it is, thanks for the game - I've had quite a fun time with it!

[Aku]

I don't see myself declining anytime soon. You must have a really long strat if pangaea isnt going to survive to see it. Anyway it doesn't matter because whoever wins the war will most likely not win the game.

[Aku]

turn 71 is up!

Interesting thing happened on this turn...I am now the highest income nation lmfao. Pangaea got hit a bit hard this turn. Thufir threw up his goh again. Thufirs armies are on the move but it is impossible for him to save the nation of Pangaea. Arco has just been building up in his capital doing who knows what.

Going by the graphs it looks like Abysia is getting beat on badly but he still has his main armies. I have just been throwing mindless hordes against Thufir's armies and may actually have to use real forces if Thufir actually goes on the offensive lol. I guess we shall see but invasion into my lands will be a very long and difficult task.

[Thufir]

Aku said:
turn 71 is up!

Interesting thing happened on this turn...I am now the highest income nation lmfao.

This is amusing - but income isn't quite so important as it once was, don't you think?



Pangaea got hit a bit hard this turn. Thufir threw up his goh again.

The well dressed Abysian never goes anywhere w/o his GoH http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif


Thufirs armies are on the move but it is impossible for him to save the nation of Pangaea. Arco has just been building up in his capital doing who knows what.

IMHO, Arco's tenacity has been one of the most amazing stories out of this game!



Going by the graphs it looks like Abysia is getting beat on badly but he still has his main armies.


I think you're looking at the wrong graphs. It's army size that yields the most telling story.


I have just been throwing mindless hordes against Thufir's armies and may actually have to use real forces if Thufir actually goes on the offensive lol. I guess we shall see but invasion into my lands will be a very long and difficult task.

Perhaps. Your offensive has reminded me of countless enthusiastic advocates of the Air Force that have ceaseless proclaimed the end of ground warfare in a new age of high tech air power. You have sent in massive waves of ghost riders (which at first came in multiples, maybe as high as 4 per strike), now you are degenerating into CoWind attacks. But at the end of the day, in RL or Dom2 sooner or later, you've got to send in the ground pounders if you want to get the job done!

It is true that I have only sufficient troops to defend a small area, and that I may be unable to save Pan. But you have shown a marked inability to kill much of anything near to my capital. And, you forget to mention one of the most noteworthy events of the turn! That being that the nicely equipped Banelord Ashsoul has seen fit to join the side of Abysia! We expect he will be the first of many http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[PrinzMegaherz]

I'm amazed.

There is an fully equipped tartarian in one of my provinces.

Hurray for N3 charm

[Thufir]

PrinzMegaherz said:
I'm amazed.

There is an fully equipped tartarian in one of my provinces.

Hurray for N3 charm

Good work - you have outdone me! I was proud to get a fully equipped bane lord http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Aku]

turn 73 is up!

The bane lord you charmed is of no consequence to me. If you look at the graphs I havent sustained any damage at all by just messing around. And my little hawks killed your wolves in one of the battles lol. The call of the winds is just something for me to do with my air gems to take empty provinces.

The tartarian that got charmed will probably be dead now from a ghost rider attack lol.

Oh and that GoH will go down. One by one all of your globals Abysia will go down. And yeah I am messing around with mindless undead but they are achieving what I want which is to ravage the land and pillage. I know I have to send in more than that to actually destroy your armies but I am in no rush since time is on my side. Who knows...maybe I will try for a dominion win lmfao.

Arco does deserve a lot of credit for sticking it out and trying to make a comeback.

[Aku]

bleh the Tartarian survived...I cant use ghost riders against it bec the fire shield kills them instantly lmfao. Oh and Ryleh you got hit by a ghost rider by accident. I dont know which province...my message report is a pain in the *** bec its way too long.

Abysia has lots its Mother Oak and Eternal Pyre.

Pangaea lost one of its counter attack armies of harpies and vine ogres lead by a pan.

This should be an interesting turn now that it looks like Abysia may be on the offensive now.

[deccan]

Wow, this thread is becoming a gripping read...

[Boron]

deccan said:
Wow, this thread is becoming a gripping read...


Yeah . Mictlan is atm lurkering and preparing but not involved in anything .
Well who can resent the Mictlan ppl this http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif .
They are so busy with doing more and more cruel deeds to the poor virgins seen worthy enough to be sacrificed for the salvation of the evil Mictlan God . They seem to even enjoy it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif . Unfortunately though motivating them for warfare is under these paradisiac conditions ( expect for the poor blood slaves http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif) still impossible .

Especially the Mictlan priests have been affected by this laziness as well and thus our research is sucking .
Our potential opponents have such nice spells like Ghost riders , flames from the sky , Tartarian gate .... while the only remarkable Mictlan spell atm is wish http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/fear.gif.

The Mictlan warmachine is one of the slowest in the world . Awakened it is horrible though http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Thufir]

Here's a few screen grabs from this turns major battle. Ermor attempted put a big time whup *** on poor old Abysia, but things, perhaps didn't quite work out as those Old Empire Ermorians had hoped. The battle progressed through 3 phases: a major Ghost Rider attack, a large battle in the movement phase, and then the storming of the castle (I won't bother to screen grab this Last, as it was rather anticlimatic).

The good guys: (well, I'm not sure if it's really fair to call Devils, Arch Devils, Father Illearth, Bane Lords and the like "good guys", but we like to think of ourselves as rather allright blokes http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif )
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/304513-TheGoodGuys.jpg





Now, can you guess how many castings of Ghost Riders it takes to do this?

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/304513-GhostRider.jpg

[Thufir]

Now heres what we do to those there undead in our neck a' the woods (in case your lacking a 12 gauge shotgun, flame eruption works nicely http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif):

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/304515-FlameEruption.jpg

[Thufir]

Now, after we toasted and roasted entire truckloads worth of Ghost Riders, then Ermor moved onto their real attack. Check this out (and can you count how many Tartarians those crazy old Ermorians brought to the party?):

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/304519-Battle2StartC.jpg


If there's anything more effective than Flame Eruption, it has to be Flame Storm:

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/304519-FlameStormA.jpg

And the impact:

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/304519-FlameStormB.jpg

[deccan]

Whow, nice pics, Thufir, thanks.

Don't keep us in suspense. Who won?

[Thufir]

Ahhhh, relief!

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/304522-Relief.jpg


Now it took us a while to bring this into play (we may need to work on our scripts a bit), but here is a required component to any serious Fire Based Army - Fire Storm - just as it first takes effect:

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/304522-FireStorm.jpg

[Thufir]

The beginning of the end (including a little "gift from heaven" - not exactly fire based, but even Arch Devils and Heliophagii need a little variety now and again):

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/304524-GiftFromHeaven.jpg

Note the paralyzed Tartarian Monstrum in the lower center - he eventually sees the light (with a little help from the Tartarian Chains), and joins up with our side.



Here is a screen grab of what was going on in the Abysian rear for most of the battle (at least once the devils left to attack the Ermorian rear). Osirus (our Son of the Sun Pretender) and Pedoseion (Father Illearth) were primarily working over the Doom Horror, though another Tartarian Monstrum weighed in for Ermor, along with a bit of chaff. Eventually, Osirus gets the Doom Horror to see reason (again, with a bit of help with the Tartarian Chains), and the Doom Horror joins up with the Abysians. Here's the shot of the rear area:

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/304524-AbysianRear.jpg

[Thufir]

Well, when it was all said and done, the mighty Abysian army defeated Ermor in all three phases. We lost about 30 devils, and sadly we lost two excellent mages (both our nature relief/charm casters, one quite well equipped). We gained a Doom Horror and a Tartarian Monstrum, although both will need GoR, if we want them as commanders. All losse occurred in the second phase. The storming of the castle was successful, with no losses on our part, and insignificant losses for Ermor.

Ermor lost their death gems for the GR castings (I'd guess 5-6 castings). In their second phase attack they lost their entire army, all comanders (including perhaps 15 Tartarians, mostly non-commanders). In the castle storming, the lost insignificant quantities of undead.

That's it for this report - stay tuned for another exciting battlefront play by play by Abysian Nation Public Broadcasting! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[Thufir]

deccan said:
Whow, nice pics, Thufir, thanks.

Don't keep us in suspense. Who won?



Thanks! As you probably figured out by now, you caught me in mid-edit. The results are now fully posted, along with a few more screen shots.

[Boron]

Awesome work Thufir http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[deccan]

Very spectacular battle! I guess the big difference was that Ermor relied on brute power while Abysia had massive spell support. I can't wait to see how this war turns out.

[Aku]

only thufir left for his turn

Yeah that battle was only mildly successful for me but all it really was just death income loss which I have an extreme surplus of. The only thing I really lost was the doom horror which I never had one before and really wasnt impressed with it besides its 10 map movement.

The reality is that this is going to be an extremely long war. I can going to use it for a lot of experimentation since I have the luxury to do so. I really do like Thufir's pheonix pyre/relief combo which works incredibly good.

My only complaint is that whoever wins the war wont win the game.

[Thufir]

I never thought of Ermor being a nation of optimists - learn something every day!



Aku said:
Yeah that battle was only mildly successful for me but all it really was just death income loss which I have an extreme surplus of. The only thing I really lost was the doom horror which I never had one before and really wasnt impressed with it besides its 10 map movement.

Amazing!

Losing 13 Tartarian troops plus two Tartarian commanders plus a Doom Horror is "mildly successful"?! Not to mention that your enemy took control of the Doom Horror and one Tartarian. Let's see the investment in the Tartarians is 150 death gems, plus some equipment (not a lot, we admit), and the Doom Horror is 100 astral. I'm not sure how you would value healing the Tartarians of their afflictions, but surely that should be worth something.

If you call losing: the province w/ death income, +150d, 100s, + misc equip, +healing costs, +giving Tartarian and Doom Horror to enemy "mildly successful", I'd hate to hear what you call a failure!

Edit: Oh, and we almost forgot the cost of the GR castings - how many GRs were there anyhow? 5? 6?




The reality is that this is going to be an extremely long war. I can going to use it for a lot of experimentation since I have the luxury to do so. I really do like Thufir's pheonix pyre/relief combo which works incredibly good.

My only complaint is that whoever wins the war wont win the game.

Well, seeing as you initiated the attack, who would you blame for your situation? Personally, I haven't given up hope of ultimate victory (although one does wonder what is going on over there in oh-so-quiet Mictlan-land), but I would say that taking second place to Mictlan would be a substantial improvement to rolling over and playing dead to Ermor's attack (as apparently you expected me to do!).

[Aku]

I never expected you to roll over and play dead. I attacked you because I had no choice. You were quickly rising in power and if nobody attacked you then it would be too late. The same scenerio may happen for Mictlan since everyone is leaving him alone and he will be unstoppable. And I only GoRed the doom horror. The losses I took werent really anything big to me because yeah it seems like a lot of gems but it isnt much compared to my gem income and my hoarding.

Anyway, I have a serious matter. The current turn is it possible to reset the clock because I am going to stale. I got called in early for work so it is impossible for me to do my turn =[. I have never staled before in any game but I got screwed in this situation. So is it possible Thufir to reset the clock? I can do my turn late tonight when I get home from work so it will quickhost anyway because I will probably be the Last person.

[Thufir]

Aku said:
Anyway, I have a serious matter. The current turn is it possible to reset the clock because I am going to stale. I got called in early for work so it is impossible for me to do my turn =[. I have never staled before in any game but I got screwed in this situation. So is it possible Thufir to reset the clock? I can do my turn late tonight when I get home from work so it will quickhost anyway because I will probably be the Last person.

No problem - hosting time is now reset to 25h QH from now.

[Thufir]

Aku said:
And I only GoRed the doom horror.

I'm just curious, but do you mind telling how you got it in the first place? From Tartarian Gate? Or did you enslave it from a random attack?

[Aku]

Thanks Thufir for resetting the clock. I pulled a lot of overtime at work this week with back to back schedules so I got screwed in fitting in this turn. I am going to do my turn now.

About the doom horror...I just used a wish for it lol. I never had a doom horror before so I wanted to see if it was any good. Then I gored it.

[Aku]

turn 76 is up

[Aku]

the turn is going to host in less than 3 hours...

boron is in his turn but thufir and megahertz need to do their turns

[PashaDawg]

Hey!! Looks like you guys are having a good game, a'cookin'. I enjoyed Thufir's play-by-play.

PASHA

[Thufir]

PashaDawg said:
Hey!! Looks like you guys are having a good game, a'cookin'. I enjoyed Thufir's play-by-play.

Thank's Pasha - coming from a master such as yourself, that's quite a complement!

It was indeed a good game - had a great time - but alas, all good things must come to an end. I've gone AI now, I don't know if Aku, Boron, msew and Prinz Megarherz will be carrying on, but any interested parties are free to do so.

Frosted has gone two consecutive stales now, and unless someone objects quite soon, I'll also set him to AI.

[PashaDawg]

Thufir said:
It was indeed a good game - had a great time - but alas, all good things must come to an end. I've gone AI now



Why go AI? Did you end up losing???? Did Lord AKU end up spanking your Dominion? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif

[Aku]

Long story.

Things happened...Boron and Thufir had a massive battle where both sides used a lot of their forces for one fight. I am not sure if Boron will go AI or not himself.

[Thufir]

Aku said:
where both sides used a lot of their forces for one fight.

wrong answer.

[Thufir]

PashaDawg said:Why go AI? Did you end up losing???? Did Lord AKU end up spanking your Dominion? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif

For reasons I will not detail, the game ceased to be fun. But the game was quite a lot of fun, all the way up to the end - and for that I thank everyone involved.

[Aku]

Well anyway Thufir, I know Boron had most of his forces there and was told you had an army of over 500 demon type troops so I would consider that "a lot." You do not have thousands of troops running around so I would consider the army that fought Boron a lot of your forces. I guess I am mistaken since you said I was wrong so I have to assume that was one of your small armies but the army graphs showed otherwise or maybe I am wrong on that also and I need someone to teach me to read a graph now.

[Aku]

Anyway in other game news. A new turn is up.

Abysia is AI. Arco is AI. I don't recall Frosted Flake staling but Thufir is the game manager and has probably been keeping tabs on it.

I have counter attacked Ryleh, who invaded me Last turn, and his province count has gone down to the small amount Pangaea has in a single round. Ryleh's main army has defeated 450 of my undead at some losses but still has the vital troops of his army. Pangaea has defended against one of my storming attempts on his capital.

AI Arco is invading Mictlan.

AI Abysia has attacked me with 300 vampires and my dominion just pushed into that province. I am attacking the vamp army with a flames from the sky, followed by about 10 ghost riders, followed by an attack of one of my armies lead by my prophet.

[deccan]

Thufir said:
For reasons I will not detail, the game ceased to be fun. But the game was quite a lot of fun, all the way up to the end - and for that I thank everyone involved.



Ah, that's such a shame. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

I guess this means Ermor wins.

[PrinzMegaherz]

Bad times for the nation of pangaea.
With Abysia going AI this means no more backup in the fight against ermor.

Looks like we have to take the same stance as Arco, definding the capitol no matter what.

Maybe those 4 Bane Lords I charmed Last turn will help me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Boron]

deccan said:
I guess this means Ermor wins.


Yeah Ermor wins deserved . Grats Aku http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Thufir]

Aku said:
Well anyway Thufir, I know Boron had most of his forces there and was told you had an army of over 500 demon type troops so I would consider that "a lot." You do not have thousands of troops running around so I would consider the army that fought Boron a lot of your forces. I guess I am mistaken since you said I was wrong so I have to assume that was one of your small armies but the army graphs showed otherwise or maybe I am wrong on that also and I need someone to teach me to read a graph now.

Why provoke me, Aku? You are a skilled player, and you know how to read graphs. And you know full well how that they don't tell the whole story. In this case, the graph mostly reflected my heavy loss of imps. I am sure that you have heard from Boron that in the second turn after joining you, I took the Mictlan capital, and broke the backbone of Mictlan's fighting forces. Mictlan lost her Vampire Queen, all SCs but two unequipped Ice Devils, and was left with maybe 100 - 200 Devils.

What perhaps you have not heard is that I did this with my secondary army. The primary army which dusted so many of your undead with near zero losses, was still one turn away from the fight. I did, however, take significant losses in this fight, I lost 2 Heliophagii and a number of Devils and Storm Demons. I lost no Demon Lords, and not the Arch Devil or Air Queen and none of the casters.

I will work on some screen grabs for this battle, although it was not as colorful as the Last one I did, and it's kind of painful to replay (even on fast forward, it goes slow, due to so many units - esp. casters). What was interesting about this one is how effective hoards of mechanical men can be. Boron had something like 600 mechanical men. Their lightning immunity made my Storm Demon Army rather more irrelevant than I would've cared. Had I given Boron just a few more turns to prepare, this could've easily become a devestating force! For my part, I used just about every non-fire global spell in the book! I did have a fire or two caster there, but I limited myself to Flame Storm, and did not use any of the battlefield spells, as I did not want to damage my Storm Demons.

[Thufir]

It turns out my abysia.trn file got deleted when I set Arco to AI. Does anyone know if old .trn files are saved on the server (either by Dom II hosting sware, or via code running on Esben's server)?

[Aku]

Thufir it would be cool if you were able to retrieve pics of that battle because I didnt get any details from Boron about it. All I saw was a battle report of Boron losing all his commanders and 600 troops and you losing 500 troops and a few commanders.

The mechanical men are a good counter to the storm demons and I had already started summoning them with 5 dedicated casters a turn at my capital.

I also have a few blood casters and was wishing for blood every turn where I was going to do a long term strat of soul contracts for devils. I was also going to make a vampire army for home defense and offense too because of my strong dominion spread.

I was also goring a tartarian a round on top of summoning 1-2 tartarians a round with the occassional 20% chance to get a commander. Even with the dozen tartarians I had lost before I had another 20 at my capital with about 8 already commanders.

I started to change equipment on my tartarians to be immune to lightning and fire instead of only fire. I also had my 2 aq's still sitting in my capital. I heard about the equipment your aq used and was going to wish away the sword like I did the chalice before the war.

Even if I couldn't beat your armies and limited everyone to just their capitals I was going to try to dominion everyone out. My temple count already exceeded 50 and I had forts and temples under constant construction still. Ryleh's lands are going to be another 15-20 provinces I can temple.

My goal was to go for the extremely long win like at christmas time lol. Because even with all my losses my army graph continuously always went up along with my strong dominion.

I was going to go for the long win because I knew I could outproduce you even with your 60% site because of my massive gem income plus hoarding.

Boron has fought against me in other games so he can confirm that I always hold a lot back to make myself seem weaker because I dont like to show all my forces right away. I also like to play around in the fights and test things when I am in a position to do so to help me in further games. I am just saying my plans because you turned AI Thufir and nobody in the game has a chance, especially with Ryleh attacking me it is going to increase my base of power even more.

[Aku]

turn 82...only ryleh left

[PrinzMegaherz]

Seems only Ermor and pangaea are still human controlled.

The outcome is clear, so I congratulate Aku. Nicely done!

[Aku]

Too bad everyone turned AI because I had massive stuff in my capital that I never got to use lol. But it was a good game though.

So I guess whoever has power on the game can terminate it now.

[Thufir]

I have now stopped the game.

Thanks everyone for the game - I had an awesome time!

[Aku]

Thanks Thufir for the immediate response.

Yeah this game was a lot of fun.