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Atrocities
August 26th, 2004, 02:03 PM
I am in the process of updating the Starwolf set.

I hope to have it completed soon so I can start in on the Pandoran set.

The update consits of new high quality renderings with updated textures.

Compare the old to the new. Old Starwold Link (http://www.astmod.com/races/Starwolf/Starwolf.htm)

http://www.astmod.com/nasy/Starwolf/Starwolf_Portrait_Dreadnought.PNG
Dreadnought
http://www.astmod.com/nasy/Starwolf/Starwolf_Portrait_Battleship.PNG
Battleship
http://www.astmod.com/nasy/Starwolf/Starwolf_Portrait_BattleCruiser.PNG
Battle Cruiser
http://www.astmod.com/nasy/Starwolf/Starwolf_Portrait_Baseship.PNG
Baseship
http://www.astmod.com/nasy/Starwolf/Starwolf_Portrait_DreadnoughtHeavy.PNG
Dreadnought Heavy (Neo)
http://www.astmod.com/nasy/Starwolf/Starwolf_Portrait_Juggernought.PNG
Juggernought (Extra)

Ragnarok
August 26th, 2004, 02:36 PM
Hmmm I like them but at the same time I don't. For some reason the new ones look more catoonish while the old ones had that military feel and they looked like a ship you did not want to meet in space.

But nevertheless fine work, AT!

Atrocities
August 26th, 2004, 02:41 PM
Its the new metalic texture. Its reflection coupled with the new glow effects give it that cartoonish look. I did a lot of thinking before I opted to go with the new texture. When I compared the images at a higher resolution, the new texture simply looked more real.

DOGA does not allow for a lot of tweaking when it comes to the Textures. I could import the models into another program, but that would require a lot of extra work and I am far to lazy to do that. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

TerranC
August 26th, 2004, 02:42 PM
Ugh; Don't go with the metallic format; It makes your starships look as if they've had a wax job done. Go with Rough instead; IMHO, they seem more realistic.

Edit: Nevertheless, nice ships; I wish I could make shipsets as well as you do http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Raging Deadstar
August 26th, 2004, 03:11 PM
I like them better than the original, But i agree maybe a better texture could be used. Either way they're still pretty good http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Atrocities
August 26th, 2004, 05:33 PM
Crap guys, I just finished the set and do you know how long it took me to update them? 12 hours. I tried the other settings and they all looked about the same. I changed to a differant texture and it just didn't look good. In fact I tried several new textures as the old one really looked ugly. After months of off and on again testing I opted for this finish. When I render them at high resolution they look *****en. Whem I compare the different textures at lower resolution this one still kicks the crap out of them.

Besides, the mini's just look wicked IMHO.

Take a look for yourselves. The Starwolf v1.8 (http://www.astmod.com/nasy/Starwolf/Starwolf.htm)

Atrocities
August 26th, 2004, 05:41 PM
I could redo the Portraits with a rough finish. Let me try that real quick.

Raging Deadstar
August 26th, 2004, 05:48 PM
Hey don't go out of our way just to add a different texture.

I certainly prefer this one to the older Version, there was something i wasn't sure about on the old starwolf ships.

As for the ships themselves they are great, this new texture shows the models much better. Personally I'm not used to the Clean look your ships are taking, All your old shipsets always had patterned textures and such. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Atrocities
August 26th, 2004, 05:48 PM
Which do you guys like better? Post 1's images or these one? I can redo the portrait in about hour so be honest as to which ones that all of you like.

http://www.astmod.com/nasy/images/Starwolf_Portrait_Juggernought.PNG
Juggernought

http://www.astmod.com/nasy/images/Starwolf_Portrait_DreadnoughtHeavy.PNG
Dreadnought Heavy (neo)

http://www.astmod.com/nasy/images/Starwolf_Portrait_Dreadnought.PNG
Dreadnought

http://www.astmod.com/nasy/images/Starwolf_Portrait_Battleship.PNG
Battleship

Fyron
August 26th, 2004, 05:50 PM
I like the new ones better. Post 1's are way too shiney...

Atrocities
August 26th, 2004, 05:52 PM
The new texture has a pattern to it as well.

http://www.astmod.com/nasy/images/dn.PNG

Captain Kwok
August 26th, 2004, 05:53 PM
Nice work. I really like them.

Ragnarok
August 26th, 2004, 05:57 PM
The new ones are much better, I agree with Fyron 100%. Great work AT!

gregebowman
August 26th, 2004, 06:07 PM
I'll join the bandwagon. The second batch look much better. Can't wait to see the final product.

Atrocities
August 26th, 2004, 06:12 PM
Guys I don't know what to say but thank you all very much for your input. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif I am much happier with the new look than I am with the first attempt. Thank you.

TerranC
August 26th, 2004, 06:14 PM
Atrocities said:
Guys I don't know what to say but thank you all very much for your input. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif I am much happier with the new look than I am with the first attempt. Thank you.



You're welcome. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Now make more shipsets! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Atrocities
August 26th, 2004, 06:26 PM
I have made seven sets in the Last two and a half months. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Five for the Race To SE V Tournament, and two others for friends.

Speaking of which, I need to get that second set released soon. Plus I am working on an Star Wars Imperial set / Rebel set for another friend. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Atrocities
August 26th, 2004, 09:17 PM
Well the set is done.

The Starwolf (http://www.astmod.com/nasy/Starwolf/Starwolf.htm)
Download (http://www.astmod.com/zips/Starwolf.zip)

Fyron
August 26th, 2004, 10:28 PM
Atrocities said:
I have made seven sets in the Last two and a half months. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Five for the Race To SE V Tournament, and two others for friends.

Speaking of which, I need to get that second set released soon. Plus I am working on an Star Wars Imperial set / Rebel set for another friend. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Some retirement from shipset making! You should retire more often. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Renegade 13
August 26th, 2004, 10:58 PM
Beautiful Atrocities, as usual!

narf poit chez BOOM
August 27th, 2004, 12:02 AM
More shiney's!

Second one's kinda better, but it's kinda hard to tell.

Baron Munchausen
August 27th, 2004, 12:33 AM
Nicely detailed. I like the 'glow' of the lit portions. Slightly 'cartoonish' but I guess that goes with strong colors. It gets boring if all ships are bare metal or battleship grey or Federation flat white.

CNCRaymond
August 27th, 2004, 09:19 AM
Why are you doing this? I mean what for? No one will download the set if they already have it. Although they do look a hell of a lot better than the old set.

Atrocities
August 27th, 2004, 11:05 AM
http://www.astmod.com/nasy/images/pancarh.PNG

The new Pandoran Heavy Carrier

AMF
August 27th, 2004, 11:15 AM
Most extremely totally excellent wowsers!

TerranC
August 27th, 2004, 01:49 PM
Hmm, I don't know, although I do like the overall look and all of the new pandoran ship, the old ones still look much better IMHO. I don't think the Pandoran needs updating; It's pretty close to perfection as it is.

Ragnarok-X
August 27th, 2004, 02:02 PM
One race that really should get a lifting is the "Nloam". They use saucer-like ships and i really like that race. Maybe you can redo them, or make a new roughly based upon the saucerthingy ? Would be awesome http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Atrocities
August 27th, 2004, 02:20 PM
The update is to make the models much cleaner looking, and to add new "life" to there appearance.

Overall the texture that I first used was great, but now I simply just cannot get it too look good. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

The old set and the new set will both be available for download from NASY as well as PBW. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

The new set does not look as ominus as the old set, but loosing that dark feel is something that I can live with as a trade for a higher quality look.

Thanks TC for the input, the old set was awsome. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Renegade 13
August 27th, 2004, 02:31 PM
Atrocities, Atrocities...you know what your only problem is?? You're a perfectionist!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Renegade 13
August 27th, 2004, 04:56 PM
I just tried to download your EDF shipset from NASY, but got a URL not found error.

EDIT: Same thing just happened with the Starwolf.

Atrocities
August 27th, 2004, 05:19 PM
Its a bandwidth issue. CNC says we are like triple our monthly allocation at the moment. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

www.astmod.com/zips/Starwolf.zip (http://www.astmod.com/zips/Starwolf.zip)
www.astmod.com/zips/edf.zip (http://www.astmod.com/zips/edf.zip)

Try these

Renegade 13
August 27th, 2004, 10:42 PM
Thanks a lot for the links! Decided I'd take some time, and download some of your sets today http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Atrocities
August 29th, 2004, 03:23 AM
The Revised Pandoran Ship set can be seen here => CLICK HERE (http://www.astmod.com/nasy/Pandoran/Pandoran.htm)

DOWNLOAD ME (http://www.astmod.com/zips/Pandoran.zip)

NOTE: If you do not like the new images, DO NOT DOWN LOAD the new set.

Enjoy.

New Weapon Platforms, Bases, fighters, troops. Revised ship textures rendered in High res.

Raging Deadstar
August 29th, 2004, 11:57 AM
Both of these sets are incredible now http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

I remember the old Pandoran, i used to like them but i was put off from using them because they were just too dark and grey. But these make up big time, I will definitely be using them in a game i play. Wonderful work Atrocities, a Huge Improvement /threads/images/Graemlins/icon44.gif /threads/images/Graemlins/icon48.gif

Aiken
August 29th, 2004, 05:54 PM
Great shipsets. No flattery http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Timstone
August 29th, 2004, 06:09 PM
What kind of format are the models in?
I would like to try and render one. Just to see how I fare.

Edit: Very nice work btw. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Atrocities
August 29th, 2004, 11:37 PM
I render them in SUF. They can be exported to DFX, and 3DX