View Full Version : First Conatct????
Slick
September 2nd, 2004, 12:09 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/09/02/space.signals.reut/index.html
Slick.
Atrocities
September 2nd, 2004, 12:10 PM
<font color="brown">HOAX </font>
the signal could be generated by a previously unknown astronomical phenomenon or even be a by-product from the telescope itself.
Slick
September 2nd, 2004, 12:31 PM
At this point, I'd say "unconfirmed" rather than "hoax". I am an astronomy buff and it is usually very easy for these astronomers to determine if a signal originated from Earth.
Slick.
Atrocities
September 2nd, 2004, 01:02 PM
True. I think it is more likely than not, just what they think it is, a side effect of something else. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif However, we should keep our fingers crossed just in case.
Caduceus
September 2nd, 2004, 01:09 PM
And hope they haven't developed ripper beams http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif
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dogscoff
September 2nd, 2004, 01:28 PM
Or maybe not even "unconfirmed". Try "Over-enthusiastic journalism".
Raging Deadstar
September 2nd, 2004, 03:12 PM
Well even if it is alien in origin just think how long it's taken to get here. I doubt any aliens who sent it exist anymore
capnq
September 2nd, 2004, 03:52 PM
A SETI researcher is now denying {link} (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3621608.stm) that they have a signal.
Katchoo
September 2nd, 2004, 04:21 PM
Looks to me like they're denying this awfully hard...
Hmm...
If we did recieve a signal from an Alien Race, do you think they (World Governments, Research Institutes) would gleefully announce that we've found evidence of life beyond Earth? Nope, they'd deny it until the Aliens started competing on American Idol. The ramifications of discovering intelligent life beyond Earth is far more terrifing to some people (especially fanatic religious folk) than a nuclear war.
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tesco samoa
September 2nd, 2004, 04:28 PM
wouldn't the alien life also be of gods creation ?
Raging Deadstar
September 2nd, 2004, 04:32 PM
Katchoo said:
Looks to me like they're denying this awfully hard...
Hmm...
If we did recieve a signal from an Alien Race, do you think they (World Governments, Research Institutes) would gleefully announce that we've found evidence of life beyond Earth? Nope, they'd deny it until the Aliens started competing on American Idol. The ramifications of discovering intelligent life beyond Earth is far more terrifing to some people (especially fanatic religious folk) than a nuclear war.
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Then again so would entertaining the possibility it was an alien signal. We're so used to Governments denying this stuff if they didn't wouldn't you think something's off?
As for discovering intelligent life beyond earth i have little hope of that considering Intelligent Life here On Earth!
Anyway we all know Earths Default First Contact Protocal http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smirk.gif
1. Nuke 'Em
2. If Nukes fail then try and communicate
Shoot First and Ask Questions Later http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
tesco samoa said:
wouldn't the alien life also be of gods creation ?
Yes they would depending on Opinion, some would say God created the universe, some would say god just created earth...Considering how quick some religions are to brand others as Heretics and Infidels what makes you think Aliens would be any better off http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/fear.gif
Intimidator
September 2nd, 2004, 04:38 PM
The proof of alien life would unravel a lot of the stories in the Bible or Koran (or what ever) And I think that scares 'them' (fanatic religious folk) a lot.
But offcourse only my point of view (don't wanna insult any religion at all !!!!!)
Intimidator
geoschmo
September 2nd, 2004, 04:45 PM
I can't speak for the Koran, but nothing in the Bible says that God didn't create life on other planets.
Alneyan
September 2nd, 2004, 04:50 PM
If you want to go with theories about governments hiding something (or a bit more than that), you could argue that the whole reports of alien life out there are more a smoke screen than anything else. For example, I, the President of Somewhere, could let one of my trusted advisors mention a secret site dedicated to some kind of research. While most of the attention is focused on this secret base, nobody would question my hidden activies at producing unconventional weaponry; in this case, Master of Orion III: Deluxe Edition.
My point is, I would be hiding secrets by letting something much less important "slip". Note, however, that this is not necessarily my opinion in this matter, but merely a random idea (on this particular matter, I would be very surprised if anyone had a good knowledge of alien life, provided there is alien life advanced enough to pop in and say heya).
About religion and aliens: another conception could be that there isn't just a single one deity, but quite a few of them, with each one (or more than one for this matter) at the head of a particular people (and possibly closer to Ancient Greece pantheon). It would be difficult to explain why aliens have never been mentioned in the past however; but similar changes have happened in the past (such as a change of mindset towards the human body, among others).
Deadstar, your First Contact Protocol seems to be lacking an entry: what happens if they nuke us, rather than the other way around? In this case, is the solution 1 applied (Nuke'em right back, that will teach these pesky aliens), or solution 3 (sue for peace, and backstab them as soon as possible)? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
*Goes back to looking for huge yellow ships in the sky; we won't be caught unprepared this time! But where did I put my towel...*
Gandalf Parker
September 2nd, 2004, 08:29 PM
I find the new statements comming out of Quantum Physics to be quite interesting. It seems to blow away much of the scientific logic which was used to discount much of the paranormal, theological, even mythological subjects of the past. Even God can take on a whole new consideration now that "big bang" has been replaced with "membrane crossover", 10 dimensions plus 1, and imported energy/matter
Kamog
September 2nd, 2004, 10:24 PM
They're denying that they got a signal, but there's no explaination as to what it really was. So was it a signal from some natural source, or was the whole story completely made up, or what? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif
Gandalf Parker
September 2nd, 2004, 11:41 PM
Kamog said:
They're denying that they got a signal, but there's no explaination as to what it really was. So was it a signal from some natural source, or was the whole story completely made up, or what? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif
Since the Roswell incident there have been numerous TV shows and movies where the theme involved some "the general public was not ready for this knowledge". Maybe, just maybe, all of those shows are being secretly funded by the government in order to flood us with the idea that "the general public was not ready for this knowledge" so that we will be ready when they come out and actually say it.
(what are those black helicopters over my house?)
Kamog
September 3rd, 2004, 01:35 AM
Well, I don't know how much of these secret government conspiracy stories are just made up.
There are so many different things that are supposedly covered up by the government that the public is not ready for...
- the secret base at Area 51 where aliens and humans are living together and building flying saucers
- the aliens are mutilating cattle, abducting humans for biological experiments, and creating human-alien hybrids
- they have the technology to turn a destroyer invisible, teleport it, and also travel through time.
- there is a secret program that uses psychic 'remove viewers' to spy on distant locations
- there are 'zero-point energy' devices that can generate unlimited energy from space itself
- the moon landing was faked
- there are secret devices that can influence people's minds and make them sick from a distance
narf poit chez BOOM
September 3rd, 2004, 06:27 AM
'It's not Area 51 I'm worried about, it's Area's 1 to 50.'
Got that off www.coolsig.com (http://www.coolsig.com) along with my current sig.
Makinus
September 3rd, 2004, 09:55 AM
- the secret base at Area 51 where aliens and humans are living together and building flying saucers
and developing the next Version of WINXP...
- the aliens are mutilating cattle, abducting humans for biological experiments, and creating human-alien hybrids
and puting them in the bush presidential campaign (did you see the weird clothes the people were using in the republican convention?)
- they have the technology to turn a destroyer invisible, teleport it, and also travel through time.
and are considering selling the tech to Disney...
- there is a secret program that uses psychic 'remove viewers' to spy on distant locations
the latest development of this project is a strange gadget called "webcam" that allow non-psychic people to do the same...
- there are 'zero-point energy' devices that can generate unlimited energy from space itself
using the same principle they created a strage beverage also know as "energetic drinks"...
- the moon landing was faked
and the location used to film is in New Zealand, in the same place the did LOTR...
- there are secret devices that can influence people's minds and make them sick from a distance
also know as "soap operas"...
Timstone
September 3rd, 2004, 10:26 AM
Hahaha... ... ... OUCH!!
Damn, fell out of my chair. Good thing I landed on my head.
Way to go Makinus!! But I'm afraid you got point two wrong. The ultimate Human-Alien hybrid is not for the Bush presidential campaign. Every single being on Earth that watches the tele is going to be brainwashed and used for some sort of evil scheme. They're going to overthrow the govenments of the world and of course take over the whole operation. Yes, ladies and gentlemen we're talking about Oprah!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rant.gif
*Spooky music in the background*
Edit: Okay, I just noticed that Makinus is a lawyer. Hmm... I must point out that everything in this post is... ehh... fictional. Yeah. I must get myself of the hook while I can. You don't know if they heard me.
DeadZone
September 3rd, 2004, 11:40 AM
For all we know, we could all be controlled by a load of large powerful machines using us like batteries...
Not sure where I got that from http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif
narf poit chez BOOM
September 3rd, 2004, 06:54 PM
Cooommmmpuuuterrrr....
Kamog
September 3rd, 2004, 10:32 PM
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif Those are some great observations, Makinus! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
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