OT: Narf's Network and XP help thread.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

We have a D-Link router, a WinXP, a Win98 and a mac. Any way of getting all of them, or at least the windows machines, talking to each other?

And a netgear hub, which is left over and not used for anything.

[Thermodyne]

What router? If it has DHCP built in, just turn on the DHCP and set the computers up to use DHCP. Then put the systems in the same work group, share the drives/folders/printers and enjoy. The off brand system will be a little harder, but it will have Inet access with this set up.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Um...It's a D-Link with a Part Number(At least, I assume that's what P/N means) of CDI604.

Neither of us knows what DHCP is.

[Jack Simth]

DHCP = Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol.

Is this the one?
http://www.dlink.com/products/?model=DI-604

[narf poit chez BOOM]

That's what it looks like.

DHCP is already enabled, we think; there's a whole field of numbers in that area. There's a release and renew button, but no enable button. We can get the internet, but the computers don't see each other, if that helps.

My dad can't find any DHCP in the Win98 comp.

Oh, and thanks. There should be a thanks in here somewhere.

[mottlee]

I was having the same trouble...look back and find mine, on the XP should more or less do it on it's own, the 98 do you have "Network Places" should be EZ. DO NOT USE THE WIZARD! it F***ed me big time!

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=293732&page=1&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

[Instar]

Getting the Mac and Windows machines to talk to each other might be troublesome. Windows would need the Appletalk protocol, but I didn't see it in the list of protocols for me to install. I know Windows Server 2003 has it, but I didn't see it for XP.
Does the Mac have TCP/IP protocl installed (no clue on how to find out, because Macs are not my forte, and I don't ever want to have to even touch one)

[narf poit chez BOOM]

mottlee said:
I was having the same trouble...look back and find mine, on the XP should more or less do it on it's own, the 98 do you have "Network Places" should be EZ. DO NOT USE THE WIZARD! it F***ed me big time!

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=293732&page=1&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1


Thanks, but that link does not address Win98.

[Baron Grazic]

From memory, To set Win98 to use DHCP - go into Control Panel, Network, "TCP/IP for your Lan card" & you should be able to find it in there.
All Windows computers will have to have the same "Workgroup" name, and will have to have "File & Print Sharing" installed & enabled (Found in Control Panel, Network too).
Good luck.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Thanks. Further updates tommorrow.

[mottlee]

narf poit chez BOOM said:

mottlee said:
I was having the same trouble...look back and find mine, on the XP should more or less do it on it's own, the 98 do you have "Network Places" should be EZ. DO NOT USE THE WIZARD! it F***ed me big time!

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=293732&page=1&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1


Thanks, but that link does not address Win98.



That is the systems I have on it 1 XP, 2 98

[rdouglass]

From my experience, those two platforms (Mac OS and Windows XP) cannot talk to each other directly (peer to peer) without some additional peer2peer software or a server in between.

IOW, you can't connect them outa' the box; you need something in the middle added in there (server, 3rd party software, web server, ftp server, email, etc.) In my experience, you're far better off setting them up to talk to each other using TCP/IP and forget about AppleTalk in peer to peer environments.

As stated, if you had a 2003 server, you could use that as a middle-man but not all of us have all the goodies. (I have one but that's beside the point.) And if you must do peer2peer, you'll probably have better luck getting the Mac to talk Windows vs. the other way around...

[narf poit chez BOOM]

KILL NORTON FIREWALL!!!!!!!!!!!

The're all better now.

[Suicide Junkie]

The only thing norton does well is antivirus...

Having firewalls such as zone alarm on your PCs is definitely good. Partition the network and contain the damage if one machine gets "compromised".

Just today, Outlook let in a whole pile of nasty on my little sister's computer.
Most of the machines were perfectly fine since they've got local firewalls and/or run linux.
It did get our net service cut off for a few hours today, but its all settled now.

A little "format c:" and switching 'em away from outlook to a nice Online mail service, and all is well http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Our router has a firewall.

[Suicide Junkie]

So does ours.

However that's no reason to completely trust all your machines inside the firewall. You don't know where those browsers have been http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Does anyone know where XP's backup utillity is? I want to backup my harddrives to CD. Thanks.

[Suicide Junkie]

I think a copy of your registry plus the files on your C drive should do it, but I'm not completely sure.

[Instar]

My backup program is found in Start -> Programs -> Accessories -> System Tools.
If you don't have it in your start menu, the program is named "ntbackup.exe", and you can run it by doing Start -> Run and typing in ntbackup and hitting enter.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Thanks.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Is the backup programs compression good? Or would I be better off using another compression program?

[narf poit chez BOOM]

How do you get macintosh to use a lexmark z22 on a windows XP computer?