View Full Version : Atmospheric ConVersion Bug??
Renegade 13
September 25th, 2004, 05:35 PM
Has anyone ever encountered a bug where an planet simply WOULD NOT convert its atmosphere? I colonized the planet, immediately built a space yard III, an atmopheric modification plant III, and then 4 Monolith III's. However, I'm postive that it has been way more than the required 20 turns to change the atmosphere, and nothing has happened!! All other planets int the system have converted their atmospheres by now, along with all the colonies in several other systems that I colonized AFTER the original system. By the way, I'm trying to convert the atmosphere of a Hydrogen Rock planet, to being None Rock. Its not a gas giant or anything, where you can't convert to a None atmosphere type. Any suggestions?
Alneyan
September 25th, 2004, 05:38 PM
I will be asking the dumb question: is the population on this planet mainly None breathers? Having a majorityr of Hydrogen breathers would both prevent Atmosphere ConVersion and would dome the planet.
Besides this, I have no clue about your problem.
Renegade 13
September 25th, 2004, 05:45 PM
Yep, the population of the planet is entirely None breathers. That is, if you can say that people who occupy planets with no atmosphere "breathe" at all!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
Intimidator
September 25th, 2004, 06:05 PM
That's exactly why I hate this none-breathers [censored],
If they don't need an atmosphere indeed they DO NOT breathe at all, so they could life on planets with ALL kind off atmospheres, not only the none ones !!!!!!!
TerranC
September 25th, 2004, 06:21 PM
Intimidator said:
That's exactly why I hate this none-breathers [censored],
If they don't need an atmosphere indeed they DO NOT breathe at all, so they could life on planets with ALL kind off atmospheres, not only the none ones !!!!!!!
The no-atmosphere breathers could very well oxidize in atmospheres, thus having the need for domed vacumn bases.
Gandalf Parker
September 25th, 2004, 06:27 PM
Not breathing an atmosphere doesnt mean they will work well in it. Some may be corrosive to them or massively slow them (no-atmosphere race in water?), or not like what it does to sound and light, or they just might find the ugly swirling colors to be distracting. Im sure they would prefer to dome out any atmosphere.
Alneyan
September 25th, 2004, 06:30 PM
I could go with yet another silly question: did you build an Atmosphere Converter I instead of the III level? (Don't laugh, but I am known to build lower-grade facilities from time to time) It would imply less than 30 turns went by however, as otherwise this nice theory goes down the drain.
I suppose there is nothing "odd" with this planet? (Such as plagues, planet destroying events, and the like) No problems with having too many facilities/storage used compared to the "standard" values for a domed planet? No strong movement of settlers strongly opposed to altering the ecosystem of the planet?
Suicide Junkie
September 25th, 2004, 06:38 PM
You also can't convert a Gas Giant to None atmosphere...
Fyron
September 25th, 2004, 06:40 PM
Intimidator said:
That's exactly why I hate this none-breathers [censored],
If they don't need an atmosphere indeed they DO NOT breathe at all, so they could life on planets with ALL kind off atmospheres, not only the none ones !!!!!!!
Pressure. None "breathers" need a lack of pressure. An atmosphere creates a lot of pressure, so they are crushed by it.
Renegade 13
September 25th, 2004, 09:05 PM
Alneyan said:
I could go with yet another silly question: did you build an Atmosphere Converter I instead of the III level? (Don't laugh, but I am known to build lower-grade facilities from time to time) It would imply less than 30 turns went by however, as otherwise this nice theory goes down the drain.
I suppose there is nothing "odd" with this planet? (Such as plagues, planet destroying events, and the like) No problems with having too many facilities/storage used compared to the "standard" values for a domed planet? No strong movement of settlers strongly opposed to altering the ecosystem of the planet?
Well, I'm absolutely sure this is a Atmospheric Converter III, not a I. Positive. Also, I believe quite a bit more than 30 turns has gone by. Can't be sure though. As for anything being "odd" with the planet, no. Events are shut off, there's no plagues, not too many facilities/storage, or anything you mentioned. Thanks for the help though. This one's still got me stumped.
Renegade 13
September 25th, 2004, 09:07 PM
Suicide Junkie said:
You also can't convert a Gas Giant to None atmosphere...
Ok, I'm an absolute moron. It is a gas giant. But I'm sure, totally positive, that I destroyed that gas giant and created a rock in its place. ARRRGGGGGHHHHH!! Sorry for the fuss, and the mis-information too. Earlier I mentioned that it was a rock planet, but I just went in and checked...and to my surprise, it was gas. Go ahead and laugh at me now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Alneyan
September 26th, 2004, 03:41 AM
*Raises an accusing finger in the general direction of Renegade, and hits Ctrl-D* Don't worry; mistakes happen, and it is always nice to have some material for blackmails. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
To the best of my knowledge, you cannot change the type of a planet through Stellar Manipulation, but only its atmosphere. At least, I have been unable to transform Rock planets into something else in NGC5 (after a couple of tries). Either I have been unlucky, or it cannot be done.
geoschmo
September 26th, 2004, 07:39 AM
Oh yeah, you can defintely change the type of a planet by destroying it and rebuilding it. The planet type and atmosphere type is random for built planets. Size is fixed. resource value is fixed. Not sure about conditions. But type and atmosphere are random.
Alneyan
September 26th, 2004, 08:04 AM
You are correct about Planet Shaping; I have simply been highly unlucky in that game. Even when testing, six tries were required before I managed to change the type of the planet (atmosphere was changed without problem).
Atrocities
September 27th, 2004, 03:04 AM
Some irraidated planets will not convert.
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