OT: Spread Firefox

[Fyron]

Time to ditch that huge wasteland of exploits and holes running on your computer and get a browser that will not infest your PC with viruses, trojans, spyware, adware, malicious advertisements, etc., etc., etc. That's right, I am talking about Internet Exploder. It is time to leave that sinking ship behind and move to a better browser.

http://www.spreadfirefox.com/community/images/affiliates/Buttons/180x60/trust.gif (http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=15944&t=55)
Get Firefox (http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=user/register&r=15944)

Firefox is rather feature-laden and highly customizable as well, not to mention standards-compliant, which Internet Exploder has never managed to be.

A small number of features are listed below, taken from the official Firefox web site.

Popup Blocking
Stop annoying popup ads in their tracks with Firefox's built in popup blocker.

Tabbed Browsing
View more than one web page in a single window with this time saving feature. Open links in the background so that they're ready for viewing when you're ready to read them. Find out more...

Privacy and Security
Built with your security in mind, Firefox keeps your computer safe from malicious spyware by not loading harmful ActiveX controls. A comprehensive set of privacy tools keep your Online activity your business.

[Captain Kwok]

Are they paying you now? /threads/images/Graemlins/icon41.gif

[Colonel]

LOL Firefox is good Firefox is good

I have 0.93 Version its good

[Captain Kwok]

Hmm. Even you website is forcing these firefox ads on me. It even takes up a whole place and the font, must be what, 10 point? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif

[Colonel]

Hey Fyron do you know what the newest (free) Version of firefox is?? ie better then 0.93

[Fyron]

Check out the release notes (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/).


Captain Kwok said:
Are they paying you now? /threads/images/Graemlins/icon41.gif

No silly there is a grass roots campaign to promote the browser going on. http://www.spreadfirefox.com/

[se5a]

I wish cerulean studios would fix trillian so it would open hotmail when you have firefox as defult...

[Fyron]

se5a said:
I wish cerulean studios would fix trillian so it would open hotmail when you have firefox as defult...

It opens it in Firefox without issue for me. Are you using Trillian Basic? I have Pro, so maybe it is something they decided to fix only in the Pro Version...

[AMF]

How is firefox signficantly different/better than Opera?

Thanks,

Alarik

[Fyron]

Never used Opera... Firefox is a small (4.7 MB) download, so check it out. Probably sites you can find on Google that compare the two browsers. There is even a way to get the feature of Opera where your Last browsing session is saved when you reload the browser, using the Tabbrowser Extensions extension (not malformed grammar, I swear!).

[Kamog]

Several months ago, I took Fyron's advice and switched from Exploder to Firefox. I'm very happy that I did. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

[narf poit chez BOOM]

This sounds to much like a commercial. I say we shoot Fyron and Kamog.

[Will]

We don't have guns. Only /threads/images/Graemlins/icon49.gif /threads/images/Graemlins/Bomb.gif /threads/images/Graemlins/Bullets.gif /threads/images/Graemlins/Dagger.gif /threads/images/Graemlins/Grenade.gif /threads/images/Graemlins/Hammer.gif /threads/images/Graemlins/Lightning.gif /threads/images/Graemlins/Poison.gif

The /threads/images/Graemlins/Bullets.gif might do the trick, but it's pretty difficult to use them effectively without some form of directional control. I would go with /threads/images/Graemlins/Bomb.gif

Oh, and Firefox is cool. Have a /threads/images/Graemlins/Grenade.gif

[Ragnarok-X]

Im using mozilla since a while now, and i have to say its really THAT much better than Netscape or IE. It has a load of nice options, is smaller and loads faster. In addition it seems to be less attackable, though that could be because most hackers focus on IE since it has more Users.

[Aiken]

<flamatorial>

Firefox sux!! IE sux!! Opera sux!!

Offline rulez!!!!!!

</flamatorial>

[Karibu]

Though I usually reject this kind of advertising, I have to agree with Fyron. I changed my browser to Firefox Last spring because I grew too annoyed with pop ups with IE and I have been very satisfied since. Also I like especially the interleves ability which IE lacks, for it allows me to have several sites open concurrently without browser processes eating all of my RAM and also this "gray balk" where all Windows programs are wisible, is not too crowded.

I don't know about Opera or Lynx or other browsers. They might be as good as Firefox, but this beats IE and Netscape 10-0.

[Baron Munchausen]

The latest Firefox is the 1.0 'Preview Release' which is what they used to call a 'release candidate' -- i.e. a final beta which might be confirmed as 1.0 if no serious bugs turn up. If there are problems they fix them and release another 'almost final' Version.

It's a good idea to go with the very latest because a lot of security fixes have been made to both Firefox and the Mozilla suite lately. Just got Mozilla 1.7.3 Last week which fixes several security holes. As more people use Mozilla/Firefox these security fixes will be more important because more hackers will be targetting these browsers.

[Instar]

No.

[Fyron]

Instar said:
No.

Why not?

[dumbluck]

I will take back what I said before. It's a pretty nice program. After the initial crash and denuncation, I gave it another try with much better results.

[Grandpa Kim]

Why I hate installing new software. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Injured.gif

So I install Firefox. One of the first things I do then is try to call up my email client. In all its wisdom, Firefox calls up Outlook Express. I have never used that client and never intend to! Naturally I cannot find a way to get it to call Netscape Messenger. In modern computer parlance, this is called "user friendly".

Fyron, any idea how I can get it to call up my email client and not this default client?

[Fyron]

Is Netscape Messenger the system default mail client?

[Grandpa Kim]

Imperator Fyron said:
Is Netscape Messenger the system default mail client?



Yes it is. Now that I've called up Messenger separately, it seems to be working. I will try closing both programs and start again to see if it this is a permanent change.


Edit: And indeed it is! Seems Microsoft runs back to momma at the drop of a hint. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[Aiken]

Grandpa Kim said:
Why I hate installing new software. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Injured.gif

So I install Firefox. One of the first things I do then is try to call up my email client. In all its wisdom, Firefox calls up Outlook Express. I have never used that client and never intend to! Naturally I cannot find a way to get it to call Netscape Messenger. In modern computer parlance, this is called "user friendly".

Fyron, any idea how I can get it to call up my email client and not this default client?



Type in firefox address bar: "about:config" (without quotes). Enter.

Locate string "network.protocol-handler.external.mailto". It's set to "false" by default. Set it to true (double click on the string - type "true").

Close FF. Launch Messenger, and set this mail client as default one.

Should work, although I don't guarantee.

[Thermodyne]

Firefox is a real nice browser. IE is improved with SP2, but is still target #1 for the a$$ wipes that write exploits. Still have to keep IE, there are a lot of things that it will do that Firefox won't.

[Fyron]

Mostly due to that quagmire that is ActiveX.

[Arakiel]

Been using it since .6...i'm not sure I could work on a computer without Firefox anymore. The built in popup blocking and adblock extension makes my browsing nearly ad free..and tabbed windows are just too damned convenient to be given up.

I've tried Opera and MyIE but both of those are too bloated or have funky interfaces and neither one has an "adblock" extension that I ever saw. Also, neither of those is free, you have to pay to get rid of the built-in ads of their "free" Versions...Firefox is and always will be free http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Will]

MyIE2 has adblock integrated along with it's popup block. And it is free to download, and it doesn't have any ads in it that I recall. But, when it comes down to it, it's only a front end to Internet Explorer, so all the same security issues and standard complience is still there. Firefox has now surpassed it in functionality and stability, so it is the best choice. Pretty much the only thing I miss from MyIE2 was the mouse gestures, but there's a plugin for Firefox for that now (and I've gotten used to not using them, and whenever someone else uses my computer the gestures confuse the hell out of 'em for some reason).

[gregebowman]

Ok, let's say I get Firefox or another similar program. How do I set it up so I can dial my server? When I set IE up, they talked me through it over the phone. Not sure if I can replicate that with a new program. How easy is it to access your server?

[Will]

Since it was already set up for IE, it should just work for Firefox. The dialup settings are within Windows itself, so Firefox will look for connection preferences, see you have a dialup connection, and use that like normal. If it doesn't work like that, you still have IE, so you can post here with any problems, should there be any (I doubt there will be).

[gregebowman]

Will said:
Since it was already set up for IE, it should just work for Firefox. The dialup settings are within Windows itself, so Firefox will look for connection preferences, see you have a dialup connection, and use that like normal. If it doesn't work like that, you still have IE, so you can post here with any problems, should there be any (I doubt there will be).



Ok, thanks for the info. I'll give it a try.

[Thermodyne]

Imperator Fyron said:
Mostly due to that quagmire that is ActiveX.



You got it. But saddly most custom apps use active X and Crystal Reports.

[Instar]

Thermodyne said:

Imperator Fyron said:
Mostly due to that quagmire that is ActiveX.



You got it. But saddly most custom apps use active X and Crystal Reports.


Yeah, ActiveX is needed for a lot of things.

[Fyron]

A bit of hyperbole, but the message is true nonetheless...

http://www.iichan.net/b/src/1097450364452.jpg

[Kamog]

Firefox Version 1.0 is out now! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Fyron]

That it is. What are the lot of you waiting for? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[TurinTurambar]

Got it. Been there done that done the math. Love the extentions thing and the tabbed browsing.

Was a little annoyed that it said it would convert all my previous crap (Favorites, stored passwords, etc.) and the results were a little "sketchy."

Turin

[TurinTurambar]

<---- HOOOOOOOOLly Crap.... I've been promoted. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Yep, that happens.

[TurinTurambar]

50 is the mark I guess.

[Atrocities]

Aswome browser thats all I have to say about it. A hell of alot better than IE and just as good if not better than NS.

[AgentZero]

Hmmm... Just switched over from Mozilla to Firefox, since Mozilla.org seems to be pushing it a bit harder, and so far I like it. Only problem is, I got Thunderbird as an email client since it looked all nice and fancy, but it doesn't seem to be able to import my old emails & settings from Mozilla. What's that all about?

[Fyron]

AgentZero said:
Hmmm... Just switched over from Mozilla to Firefox, since Mozilla.org seems to be pushing it a bit harder, and so far I like it. Only problem is, I got Thunderbird as an email client since it looked all nice and fancy, but it doesn't seem to be able to import my old emails & settings from Mozilla. What's that all about?

It should be able to fairly easily... It is pretty much the same program as the mail client in Mozilla, after all. Never used the mail client in Mozilla before, so can't really help you any...

[CovertJaguar]

I normally use Opera, this thread convinced me to give FireFox a try. Its great, really nice. Fast, Efficient, less cluttered looking than Opera.

The extension cabilities in FireFox are very nice. After a little searching I was able to find an extension that would allow me pick up where I left off when I Last closed FireFox, like I can in Opera. Without this ability I would be staying with Opera.

[Aiken]

Opera needs some hand-made tweaks to provide maximum viewing area. And it has much more flexibility in interface customisation than _default_ FF setup.

[Fyron]

aiken said:
Opera needs some hand-made tweaks to provide maximum viewing area. And it has much more flexibility in interface customisation than _default_ FF setup.

That doesn't particularly matter, given the ease of installing various extensions which expand such things...

[Aiken]

Actually it does. FF is advertized as IE-killer, so its main auditory is a computer illiterate part of the internet Users (about 90% of total amount of Users). They'll hardly download and install extensions. They are typically interested in the features out of the box.

[Ragnarok-X]

Still i would prefer new mozilla over both opera and netspace, not mentioning ie

[Sivran]

Pfft. Firefox is just Mozilla, stripped down and with useful things like a complete preferences dialog cut out. Funny thing is it really isn't any faster. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Will]

I don't think it's supposed to be faster in terms of how long it takes Page X to load. The main goal was to reduce the overall footprint, both on disk and in memory. By removing all the integrated components, the browser can have only the components it needs to use in memory (eg. no use having the mail client loaded and ready for mailto: links if you only use webmail, etc). So, it's minutely faster because there is less stuff in memory to go through, but that is more a product of the overall system being faster because of reduced memory usage.

So, short Version: Firefox = Mozilla - bloat.

[Baron Munchausen]

I've seen more than a few Posts on the Mozillazine support Boards claiming that the 'bloated' suite is more stable than the 'lean' Firefox. And as others have already noticed, it's not really any faster at browsing. Its only advantage seems to be that it loads a little bit faster.

[Atrocities]

Safer browsing and more useful extensions than either IE or NS.

Computer - $1200.00 Dollars
Broad Band ISP $50.00 Dollars
Fire Fox secure web browser - Priceless

[CovertJaguar]

Browsing is never going to be fast on my 26k connection. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif The program is fast and and responsive though.

[Captain Kwok]

Unfortunately for me, sometimes Firefox crashes and I lose all my bookmarks and custom settings. It just happened again today, which is the third time in 4 months since I've been using Firefox. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/fear.gif

I think now I'll have to export and backup my settings to some other folder just in case it happens again. /threads/images/Graemlins/Cold.gif

[Fyron]

Were you doing anything in particular each time it crashed?

[Captain Kwok]

There's no common link between the three crashes that I can recall. This latest one displayed an an error in the firefox.exe module at some hex address. The other times just get the message that the program committed an illegal action and had to close - which happens other times without the loss of settings.

[Alneyan]

Isn't it linked with a computer crash? I know I had the same problem a few months ago; it was solved by not crashing my computer, and, above all, turning off the writing Cache for my hard-drives (which was said to result in data loss in case of a crash).

I cannot swear the solution actually solved the problem, but my settings and bookmarks remained in place since then, so there may be a connection between the two.

[CovertJaguar]

There is an extension that will backup all your bookmarks and settings every time FireFox closes. You might find this helpful.
Bookmark Backup (http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/index.php?showtopic=13&hl=bookmark+backup)

[Atrocities]

What extensions do most of you have?

DOM Inspector
GMail Notifier
Adblock (With Fyrons PlugIN)
Foxy Tunes
FireFTP
Hotmail Tabs
Tweak Network
Web Mail Composer
Link Visitor
View Cookies
Flash Got

Are these good to have, and what ones do I need that I do not have?

[CovertJaguar]

The two most useful extension I use are:

Tabbrowser Extensions (http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/index.php?showtopic=111&hl=tabbrowser) - Has every thing you could every want related to tabs: session saving, editable tab context menus, appearance, too many tabs behavior, auto-reload, undo tab close, rearrange tabs, and many more features.

SpellBound (http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/index.php?s=2ab02291d982df87142e4321fcf7e583&showt opic=474&hl=spellbound) - Will spellcheck any textbox.

Some others I use are:
FoxyTunes
Adblock
Show Image
Bookmark Duplicate Detector
Bookmark Backup
Bookmark LinkChecker
Calculator
DownloadWith
DerBrowserTimer - Adds clock and alarm functions
EZNav
Full Screen Context
Nuke Image
Nuke Anything
Paste Happy
Stop/Reload - Combined Stop and Reload button
Triple Select - Third click selects paragraph
Word Count
Zoomy - Increase/Decrease Text Size

All of these and more can be found at The Extensions Mirror (http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/).

[Gandalf Parker]

I use :
Dom Inspector
OpenBook (customizing bookmarks)
QuickNote (kindof a quick NotePad within Firefox)
Search Status (I need to check google and alexa rankings for my work)

But that Tabbrowser Extensions sounds good. I might have to look into that one.
I probably should look into Zoomy also (my old eyes)

[Atrocities]

You have to admit there is something very appealing about having the option to install extentions that you choose. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Customizable is the best selling feature for any program IMHO now a days. Moddable would fall under this catagory as well.

[Renegade 13]

Captain Kwok said:
The other times just get the message that the program committed an illegal action and had to close - which happens other times without the loss of settings.



Weird...Firefox has never crashed for me in all the months I've used it....until today. Ironically, it was less than 12 hours after reading your post http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif You've cursed me!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Kamog]

Firefox has NEVER crashed for me... so far. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Gandalf Parker]

Somehow saying that a program has never crashed on my makes me think the music should change. You know, like it does in a horror movie when the guy tells the girl "we should be safe here". But I will take a chance and chime in that I havent had any crashes. I HAVE been careful about extensions that come from sites other than the main one, and putting in so many that a clash is bound to happen.

[DarkHorse]

AvantBrowser does everything I've seen mentioned in this thread, without having to track down and install extensions. It also does a few things (e.g. page zoom) that I haven't been able to find for firefox. The interface is more customizable (and better looking, imho), and it evens allows the google toolbar (never could get that to work with firefox).

It's a smaller download than firefox, too.

Oh, and all the stuff that only runs with IE will run with AvantBrowser (mostly because it is a shell extension for IE).

www.avantbrowser.com (http://www.avantbrowser.com)

[Aiken]

There are plenty of IE extensions: myie2/maxthon, avantbrowser, netcaptor. But they won't save you from kilometer-wide security holes in IE.

[DarkHorse]

Maybe not, but a little common sense can work wonders http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif "Don't surf where you wouldn't walk"

[Aiken]

DarkHorse said:
Maybe not, but a little common sense can work wonders http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif "Don't surf where you wouldn't walk"


Uh, so no pr0n and underground hax0r's sites? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Firefox - best browser for surfing in the mud! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif