Willing to make Space Pictures based on your ideas

[TerranC]

Remember this picture (http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=300062&page=1&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)?

Perhaps you remember this one (http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=297811&page=3&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1) as well?

I'm ashamed for not having said it earlier, but although I created the pictures, the ideas behind the pictures were provided by Puke (for the first one) and by SuicideJunkie (for the second one). The thing is I never have any good ideas on my own; I usually end up trying to manifest other people's ideas onto a picture using my models and doga effects. I am ashamed of that, and I fear that I may never overcome my stunted imagination.

The good thing is that you can feed good ideas into my brain, wait a while, and see the final effects! All you have to do is provide the imagination, and I'll do all the hard work for you! You don't like my ship models? Heck, I'll create new ones for you on the spot as long as you provide a description for them!

So to sum it up: TC is unimaginative - TC knows DoGA pretty well, I guess - You feed your ideas for anything Se4 you want to see in a 800x600/1024x768/1280x1024 format into TC's brain - wait a few days - and voila! (Almost) Instant wallpaper.

So if you have an idea, (Whatever is in your head is, on a 99.9% chance, good) write it down here and let me do all the work!

I'll be awaiting your ideas.

[Aiken]

You can use this idea as the Last resort:

There are plenty of Online galleries with military art, e.g. Military Art (www.military-art.com). Find a picture with interesting plot and recreate it in the space enviroment with your own models starring.

Plagiarism? Sure.

Now add some objects to the scene, or remove something, change point of view (camera position) - make your scene different.

Plagiarism? No, artistic remaking http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

edit: fixed link

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Start with a concept - Say - Robots. Then refine - Two armies of robots. Then, determine terrain, atmosphere, use those to determine types of robots or the other way around and so on. Use the anylitical facilities to assist the creative facilities, not replace them.

[Joachim]

Here you go...

Suicidal charge of the Last DN against the enemy fleet's command ship, guns blazing and being whacked by incoming fire...

No, not original in idea but I am sure you can make nice original artwork for it.

[AMF]

I would die for a pic that shows a ragtag bunch of human ships fleeing Earth as it is destroyed by Klackon warships.

[All my races are based upon the remnants of humanity (the "Diaspora") who fled Earth during the Earth-Klackon wars (when Earth was eventually nuked by the Klackons) - that was the first PBW game I played...]

[sachmo]

I have a rather large story that you can freely use for any ideas. Lots of battles and that sort of thing.

[Aiken]

You could like one these ideas (or neither of them):

1. Race.
Plot: 2 ships (different shipsets) are competing with each other in speed.
Aim: distant planet (probably with small finish gate on orbit).
Losing ship is forcing its engines (bigger exhaust, or more intensive color).
Additional details: glowing buoys (represent lane direction), audience (other ships).
Visual fx: motion blur. It's a must have imho.

2. Head-on crush.
Plot: 2 ships (again) are flying towards each other on high speed. Someone have to turn aside, else...
This kind of scenes is quite popular in Hollywood movies.
Additional details: they can fire to each other, burning hot front shields, something in the backdrop (planet, space battle).

3. Burn Earth.
Plot: Big ship is falling to earth (preferably to the big town).
Ship surrounded with plasma cocoon, it's almost destroyed and scattering to pieces.
Additional details: missiles starting from ground to intercept and destroy the treat.

4. Steeplechase in asteroid field.
Plot: small ship manoeuvring in asteroid field. Hostile ships (fighters) colliding with asteroids and each other. Explosions. See SW's Millenium Hawk hiding in the asteroid field for great example.

[brianeyci]

A huge beam coming out of the clouds from the sky that busts a hole in the ground... near the ground all the buildings are falling into it and people are scurrying about trying to avoid being swallowed by the earth... maybe a lot of fighters in the sky in the middle of dogfights, a few of them accidently running into the beam and being incinerated...

heh heh
Brian

[Colonel]

Heres an idea, have a ship raise out of a hanger on the ground with weapons shooting at it and have little weapons inplacements on the ground shooting up.

[Suicide Junkie]

How about this:
Peaceful, uncolonized forest world.
Rocks and trees and a woodland creature or two hopping/flying past.

Up in the sky, a large, close moon full of vaccuum breathers is being attacked by somebody else.

[Colonel]

that would be a good opener to a scifi show or movie. Not for a pic because you would have to move the camera view to see the ground and slowly move up to that

[Suicide Junkie]

A camera at ground level, looking up past the critters in the trees to see the spacebattle would work... probably best at night, I guess.

[TerranC]

Joachim said:
Here you go...

Suicidal charge of the Last DN against the enemy fleet's command ship, guns blazing and being whacked by incoming fire...

No, not original in idea but I am sure you can make nice original artwork for it.



Idea accepted; the attachment has a preview of what's to come.

[Possum]

1) A ram, just at the moment of impact, the explosive warheads on the rammer ship detonating in a huge explosion, and little guys sailing into space, screaming their Last from hemorrhaging lungs as they perish horribly http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

2) The Kobayashi Maru! A historical scene, depicting Tiberius' Triumph http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

3) A spacedrop. Ground troops dropping from orbit, hundreds of tiny contrails as the outer ablative shielding begins to burn off...read the relevant sections of Starship Troopers for inspiration. Umm, I mean the book. I have no idea about the movie, I never saw it.

4) A planetary bombardment. One or more gunboats, loaded with Napalm V, pLastering the living **** out of a planet.

5) A ringworld. The star, a bold young yellow one, gleaming on the endless ribbon of earth, mountains, and lakes...

[Colonel]

WOWOWOWOWSA AWESOME PIC OF SHIP WOWOWOWOWOWOW :drool: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif

[TerranC]

More or less done: Click on the attachment above to see the pic inspired by Joachim's idea.

It's a bit large though; 1.09 mbs.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

me likes. Mind if I make that my new wallpaper?

[TerranC]

narf poit chez BOOM said:
me likes. Mind if I make that my new wallpaper?



Not at all.

[Traskelion]

HOLY CRAP! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif That is one good ship pic! I plan to try and learn rendering, but gets defeated by my plans to be as lazy as possible.
.....whoa....


P.S. For those who played the patched Escape Velocity, I would like to see those bat-like Diphidian Fighters. But....those are prolly too small to make out much detail.

[Kamog]

Looks GREAT!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif A very exciting scene capturing the immediacy and danger of space combat! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[Joachim]

TerranC said:
More or less done: Click on the attachment above to see the pic inspired by Joachim's idea.

It's a bit large though; 1.09 mbs.



Very fine artwork! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[tesco samoa]

how about our friend dom-kum in se ???

[tesco samoa]

the dom-kun race would be good.


Mineral planets are RRRRAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH

to declare war it would send

RRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Surrender

ragh

hehhehehe

[AgentZero]

Idea: Big Dreadnought emerging from a WP and being ripped apart by the Starbase sitting on top of the Warp Point.
Out of curiosity, how hard/easy is it to come up with new materials in DoGA? I've been working in Bryce 4, which is pretty good at coming up with the basic shapes for things, but creating textures to use in it is a serious pain.

[TerranC]

tmce said:
Out of curiosity, how hard/easy is it to come up with new materials in DoGA? I've been working in Bryce 4, which is pretty good at coming up with the basic shapes for things, but creating textures to use in it is a serious pain.



By materials, I assume you mean textures? Basic colour and and model properties are easy to set in doga; although somewhat limited, you can mostly get what you want easily. Textures themselves though, are compared to other 3d apps, are extremely limited; there is no mapping; and there is almost no control over how the texture will be seen on the model.

The textures I used for that picture posted a while ago were actually taken (read: stolen http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif) from the net and games, and edited with photoshop 6.

[TerranC]

Possum said:
3) A spacedrop. Ground troops dropping from orbit, hundreds of tiny contrails as the outer ablative shielding begins to burn off...read the relevant sections of Starship Troopers for inspiration. Umm, I mean the book. I have no idea about the movie, I never saw it.



I would just like to say that making contrails in doga is a pain in the behind; It never looks right, and it never comes out well.

Nevertheless, I think I managed to somewhat respectably do this scene, with contrails to boot.

Click on the attachment to see possum's picture.

[Suicide Junkie]

TerranC said:

Possum said:
3) A spacedrop. Ground troops dropping from orbit, hundreds of tiny contrails as the outer ablative shielding begins to burn off...read the relevant sections of Starship Troopers for inspiration. Umm, I mean the book. I have no idea about the movie, I never saw it.

Click on the attachment to see possum's picture.

Just one thing missing from that picture...
A large-font caption along the lines of "Join the Planetary Militia!"

[Atrocities]

A huge space battle scene with hundreds of ships. Or a ship crashing into an ocean. If you could do a ship burning up like the Enterprise did in STIII that would be cool too.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

TerranC said:

Possum said:
3) A spacedrop. Ground troops dropping from orbit, hundreds of tiny contrails as the outer ablative shielding begins to burn off...read the relevant sections of Starship Troopers for inspiration. Umm, I mean the book. I have no idea about the movie, I never saw it.



I would just like to say that making contrails in doga is a pain in the behind; It never looks right, and it never comes out well.

Nevertheless, I think I managed to somewhat respectably do this scene, with contrails to boot.

Click on the attachment to see possum's picture.


Like that one, too.

[Possum]

Very nice, TerranC!

Very nice indeed. I love the perspective, the burning azure sky, the scintillating highlights...oh well done, sir! Well done indeed!

Caption should read-

"The Space Marines are looking for a few good men" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[TerranC]

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[narf poit chez BOOM]

Yum! Spaceshipsicle!

[Aiken]

Megapicture!

[Kamog]

Domo-kun space monster! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[AgentZero]

TerranC said:
The textures I used for that picture posted a while ago were actually taken (read: stolen http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif) from the net and games, and edited with photoshop 6.



I do the same thing myself actually. You can sometimes end up with interesting looking textures from the most mundane of things. I remember making some very odd looking ships by taking a picture of a dog, cropping it down two a squre of fur and using it as a ship texture. Ended up looking very cool & metallic. BTW, you have any preferred places for pulling cool textures for ships, or am I asking the magician to reveal his secrets?

[TerranC]

tmce said:
I do the same thing myself actually. You can sometimes end up with interesting looking textures from the most mundane of things. I remember making some very odd looking ships by taking a picture of a dog, cropping it down two a squre of fur and using it as a ship texture. Ended up looking very cool & metallic. BTW, you have any preferred places for pulling cool textures for ships, or am I asking the magician to reveal his secrets?



Well, I found one texture that I have come to use repeatedly on google; one other was generously donated by a dear friend of mine, and the others were taken from the game Freespace 2 using the Descent VP manager.

As you can see, I don't have one good reliable source for textures; I just pick them up as I go. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[TerranC]

Don't blame me! It was all puke's and Possum's idea!

Edit: Sorry David (E. Gervais), the picture you sent me didn't work out too well, but don't worry, I'll be sure to make good use of it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/286430-Pukepic.PNG

[Colonel]

Senseing Senseing GREAT PIC Terran

[Kamog]

Wow, an exciting planetary assault scene! I like the unusual perspective of this picture. Great work, TerranC!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Pretty!

[XenoTheMorph]

I think that may just be the best http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif planetary assault pic I've seen!

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Mind if I use that one as my desktop picture?

[kerensky]

If I were able to send you some 3d models of a partial shipset I had and described the colours of the (they are currently blank), would you be able to use them???

[TerranC]

You are free to take them and do as you please with them, narf.

Kerensky: That depends, What format are your models in?

[narf poit chez BOOM]

TerranC said:
You are free to take them and do as you please with them, narf.

Kerensky: That depends, What format are your models in?


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[TurinTurambar]

Narf, you amuse me.

That planetary assault pic is AWESOME. It makes me wanna pull out the easle (sp?) and go back to painting. I used to be just floored by the stuff in OMNI Magazine back in the eighties when I was a youngster and spent a lot of time trying to master those atmospheric effects to no avail.

Re: "do as you please"... I have your dreadnought pic as wallpaper right now.

Re: Build on our ideas. Can I email you a scan of a pic I drew and have you work it up as a model?

Turin

[kerensky]

Currently they are in .wngs format, but the program I use can export the files to just about any other format.

[TerranC]

Kerensky - If you could export your models into .3ds format, I can use MetaSequoia to convert that into a part model, which is usable with doga.

TurinTurambar - Tommahawk(underscore)beta(at)hotmail(dot)com

[kerensky]

ui'll see if I can get them out to you soon. Have to re-install my modeler after a recent computer upgrade.

[TurinTurambar]

Emailing the pic, TC. Preview it with the attachment to this post if you like.

Thanks!! I'm positively "giddy" with anticipation!!

Turin

[TurinTurambar]

Holy CRAAAAP that's huge!!

Lemme resize that and try again... sorry.

[TurinTurambar]

Any luck? Or maybe it's not a good design to use...

Turin

[bearclaw]

Are you still looking for input on space pics? Would you be interested in a bit of a shipset project? My Dark Nova 4 mod has many added ship/unit sizes. I suck at CG. I was hoping to add to my mod the new vehicle sizes for the standard races. Just additions to the existing shipsizes of standard races that match what I've got in my mod. The mod is on Fyron's torrent tracker as well as PBW mod downloads section. I've also got an Excel file that lists all the shipsizes and their bitmap names that the mod uses.

Feel free to PM me if you want more details.

edit: I've attached the Excel file that lists changes to the Dark Nova 4 mod incase anyone is interested.

[TerranC]

Turin: I've just been busy. I'll give it a go as soon as I've got some free time.

Bearclaw: Sorry, I don't think I'll have enough time to make full shipsets. If I had loads of free time, I would have gladly taken your offer up, but real life keeps nagging at my heels.

[bearclaw]

np. Thought I'd ask. Just to clarify, it's not new shipsets or even entire shipsets I'm looking for. Just more for the standard races. Abbiddon, Amonkrie, Krill, etc. For example: My mod increases the number of standard shipsizes to 27, not including 5 Worldship sizes.

[AgentZero]

TurinTurambar said:
Emailing the pic, TC. Preview it with the attachment to this post if you like.

Thanks!! I'm positively "giddy" with anticipation!!

Turin



Hey Turin, I was just cruising through and happened upon your picture of the science ship, and thought to myself, that is one sweet looking ship. One could probably come up with a shipset based on that one.
Did a little fiddling and came up with the attached. The basic shape is there, at least. Don't want to get too into it because I'm away from home and using a demo of my modelling software. Which also explains the watermark on the attachment. Anyway, if you like it, let me know and I might be able to start proper work on it next week...

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/314221-ScienceShip.jpg

[TurinTurambar]

Sorry... Been "away" for awhile.

Hey yeah! that looks fabulous! I'd love to see some more.
Best of luck with all that ambiguous busy crap under the armour.

Turin