OT: Gandalph, your sig is missing an article

[Possum]

Gandalph, forgive me for being a purist, but....

The Tolkien verse in your sig is missing an article in the Last line. The correct quote is...

"Deep roots are not reached by the frost"

This is per page 231 of my Ballantyne copy of The Fellowship of the Ring, in the chapter entitled "Strider", where the hobbits first meet Aragorn/Strider at the Prancing Pony inn in Bree.

Again, my apologies for being so pedantic, but that story has been my favorite for 38 years, and I had to say something http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[narf poit chez BOOM]

/me gives Possum a medal of fandom.

[Gandalph]

Corrected, just for you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif. Seriously, I have also been a fan since the first time I read the trilogy when I was 12, unfortunately, I have not reread it for at least 15 years so I came pretty close, eh? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif

[Possum]

VERY close, indeed!

Seriously, Tolkien is inconsistent on use of articles. He sometimes leaves them out to make the number of syllables per line work http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

And again, I apologise for being so pedantic

[TurinTurambar]

<wipes tears from his pendantic eyes>

"I love you, my brothers..."

<sniff, sniff>

[douglas]

TurinTurambar said:
<wipes tears from his pendantic eyes>

"I love you, my brothers..."

<sniff, sniff>



You don't seem very pedantic to me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[narf poit chez BOOM]

narf poit chez BOOM said:
/me gives Possum a medal of fandom.


Maybe it should have been a pendant of fandom? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Possum]

LOL, as a result of this thread, and thinking about Tolkien, I started today reading the Fellowship of the Ring again.

This will be the 8th or 9th time, I'm not sure which. First time was in 1967 or 68 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

I've actually hammered my way through the Silmarillion too.

[Kamog]

Oh, I never knew where that neat quote is from. I haven't read Tolkien yet... I've gotta do that one of these days. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Possum]

Kamog, give it a try, do.

But I have noticed that those who read it first as children seem to love it all their lives, (or at least well into middle age, LOL.)

But those who first read LOTR as adults are often far less impressed.

Mind you, the tale has a great deal to offer to the mature mind. There are depths and subtleties that I entirely missed as a child, and even as a young man. Then it was only a rousing adventure tale to me.

In more recent years, I have come to see the other charms of the story. For example, there are deeper observations on right and wrong, and how knowing that you are morally in the right can strengthen you beyond anything you would have thought possible.

In this world we live in, where ethics seem irrelevant to so many, LOTR is a refreshing tale of the advantages of virtue.

[Gandalf Parker]

Possum said:
But I have noticed that those who read it first as children seem to love it all their lives, (or at least well into middle age, LOL.)

But those who first read LOTR as adults are often far less impressed.


Children? I think LoTR would make a great story read to children but might be abit hard for them to get thru. I read it first in JrHigh and was told then that it was required reading in college english courses.

The Hobbit is a good childrens book but I think LoTR is probably at low high school range for most.

But its DEFINETLY one of those things which should NOT be missed in life. (but hey, Im probably prejudiced) /threads/images/Graemlins/icon40.gif

[Krsqk]

I first read the trilogy in fifth grade, when I got it for Christmas, and I've probably read it through ~30 times since then (16 years or so). I've also finished the Silmarillion a few times, and most of the other stories that he wrote at least once. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Of course, I am a very fast reader (now I usually get through the entire trilogy in <2 days), but I continue to find things that I never caught the first 20 times or so through. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Renegade 13]

Gandalf Parker said:
The Hobbit is a good childrens book but I think LoTR is probably at low high school range for most.



I first read the trilogy when I was about 13 or so. Maybe even 12. It does depend on the maturity and reading ability of the kid of course.

[Rasorow]

I read LoTR in second grade. It and Lewis's Narnia were what my parents used to teach me to read since the school system didn't.

Rasorow

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Parents, if you want your kids to read, read to them, starting as soon as possible. After a while, they will want to take the book away and 'read' it themselves. Probably have at least their favorite memorized, I did. Although all I can remember now is 'One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish. This one has a yellow star, this one has a yellow car. My, what a lot of fish there are.'

[Grand Deceiver]

Tolkien....I have read The Hobbit and LOTR so many times that they are now sort of a Comfort Blanket to me..If I need to go to sleep and cant..I grab any of them and open to a random page...it puts me right to sleep. I first read the Hobbit in 4th grade..then had the entire LOTR read by the end of the summer. At that age the mind is pretty imaginative..I have to relate the following account.

I grew up in the Mts of Western North Carolina..Closest neighbor was well over a mile away. Mts, Woods, Creeks, Wildlife...very much Shireish or just plain old Middle Earthish to a young kid.

Heres the scene..Mid Winter, Cold Overcast Misty day, I in my sweatshirt with a pullover hood(so I could pretend to be a dwarve with the hood) and a wooden mallet from a croqets (Sp?) set (my dwarven warhammer) and a wooden lid off of a tomato basket (my shield).

I'm sneaking my way through the woods kiling imaginary Ors and wargs..I descend a path wich leads to the bottom lands down by the river. Now this particular set of bottomlands is a place of high weeds, stump piles, burnt stump piles and the dumpng ground for many a farm animal that had passed on..so there was an abundanceof bones and skulls laying around. A pretty goodplace to imagine the evils of Sauron.

Now I in all my dwarvish glory passed from one set of bottom lands to another wich contained a Sawmill in the process of being built. There was a huge deisel engine on a stand wich ran the saw covered by a large sheet of black pLastic. As a kid I turned the corner and in the distance through the mist and fog I see a large black shape..my young mind doest see pLastic..it sees within the shadows and textures at least three Nazgul bent over, wind blows and they move a little ..turning and looking at me...

needless to say..my feet did not touch the ground for at least a half a mile!! So much for Dwarvish Glory...and so much for the wonder of the young kids fun and imagination..

Damn those were good days.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Sometimes I wish I had grown up in the country, with woods out back that were like Calvins in Calvin and Hobbes - Big enough to have grand adventures in, but close enough to home that you never really got lost.

[Ragnarok]

narf poit chez BOOM said:
Sometimes I wish I had grown up in the country, with woods out back that were like Calvins in Calvin and Hobbes - Big enough to have grand adventures in, but close enough to home that you never really got lost.



That is the kind of woods I grew up by. My brother and I played out there everyday when we were younger. I just recently went out to those woods again and memories came back to me and so much has changed out there since we played in them. Those were the days...