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dogscoff
June 16th, 2005, 07:56 AM
Just recently I've noticed a few oblique references on this forum to a final patch for se4, or "se4 deluxe".

I assume this is another of Atrocities' little jokes, but that thin sliver of possibility is just too much to bear.

Would someone pleae put me out of my misery and tell me the truth about this rumour?

Captain Kwok
June 16th, 2005, 08:52 AM
SE:IV Deluxe will be the retail version of SE:IV Gold 1.91 to be released by Strategy First as sort of an introduction to the Space Empires series along with Star Fury.

There will be a patch to update Gold users to Deluxe, but whether this patch will change anything other than the intro screen and music system is not known - but we're still hoping for a little patch to fix some of the more major outstanding bugs. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/stupid.gif

dogscoff
June 16th, 2005, 09:06 AM
Oh I see. I think.
I assume they are changing the intro screen because of the change of publishers, but why does the music need to be changed?

Also, if any bugs do get changed, then presumably deluxe won't be version 1.91.

And I'll definitely be able to patch for free?

And you're sure this isn't Atrocities winding us up?

Captain Kwok
June 16th, 2005, 09:10 AM
The patch will definately be free, and perhaps the version number might be different. The music system is likely being switched to use .mp3s rather than CD audio...

There is a news item at the Strategy First website, and some of my information is based on a post made by Aaron in the SE:V beta.

Gandalf Parker
June 16th, 2005, 10:36 AM
Speaking of access to the beta forums....
Have you seen any mention of where the official SE:V forums will be? The one that Strategy First links to? It seems as though most of the developers they have over tehre create their own forum somewhere else and Strat-1st links to it. And after hanging around the leftover ones that are still on the Strat-1st machines I can DEFINETLY see why any developer would flee from there. Its getting so difficult to continue checking there every day for a dribblet of news.

Gandalf Parker

Puke
June 16th, 2005, 01:17 PM
dogscoff said:
but why does the music need to be changed?



what, are you kidding? i tried playing with the music on for the first time in four years. then remembered why i leave it off.

Captain Kwok
June 16th, 2005, 01:28 PM
I think the music is being changed to save space on the CD for one, plus allowing .mp3's in general is just a good idea.

Atrocities
June 16th, 2005, 02:41 PM
Gandalf Parker said:
Speaking of access to the beta forums....
Have you seen any mention of where the official SE:V forums will be? The one that Strategy First links to? It seems as though most of the developers they have over tehre create their own forum somewhere else and Strat-1st links to it. And after hanging around the leftover ones that are still on the Strat-1st machines I can DEFINETLY see why any developer would flee from there. Its getting so difficult to continue checking there every day for a dribblet of news.

Gandalf Parker



No official word as of yet. I do not think that Aaron is too concerned about forums given the pilitheration of SE related web sites like SE.net (With a forum) and the forums here on this site, which have served as the foundation for official, now unofficial SE related communication and discussion for nearly five years now.

Gandalf Parker
June 16th, 2005, 05:09 PM
Yeah but Strat-1st seems to require one. And Aaron will do his own game a huge dis-service if he allows them to just whip off a default one on their system which they link to as the "official" forum. He can create one, use one of the services such as some of the other developers there have done, declare one of the fan sites, whatever (probably not this one).

parabolize
June 16th, 2005, 10:44 PM
Captain Kwok said:
I think the music is being changed to save space on the CD for one, plus allowing .mp3's in general is just a good idea.


I want ogg (http://www.vorbis.com/)! mp3s are obsolete.

Mephisto
June 18th, 2005, 08:37 AM
Just try to use OGG. Maybe it just might work anyway...

Antonin
June 18th, 2005, 11:40 AM
I really like the existing SE4 music. Spacey, not too intrusive...

parabolize
June 18th, 2005, 08:00 PM
Mephisto said:
Just try to use OGG. Maybe it just might work anyway...


I was mostly saying that to be obnoxious. Truth be told I have all se4 audio turned off. I use rhythmbox to play my music. But I would like to see more games use ogg.

Mephisto
June 19th, 2005, 07:47 AM
I was trying to give you a hint. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Slick
July 13th, 2005, 12:29 PM
Since it's been a while, have I missed any news on any changes or bug fixes in SEIV deluxe?

douglas
July 13th, 2005, 12:36 PM
I don't know anything about what the changes are going to be, but Aaron revealed in a chat with beta testers almost two weeks back that it'll be released in September, and he's planning to patch even non-gold up to Deluxe.

Atrocities
July 13th, 2005, 12:37 PM
No news on the Deluxe version as of yet.

Kamog
July 14th, 2005, 03:11 AM
September? That's good news, it's only a couple of months away! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

dogscoff
July 14th, 2005, 06:27 AM
and he's planning to patch even non-gold up to Deluxe.




*poit*

Can I get a refund on Gold then? I'll dig out my classic CD and patch that one up...

David E. Gervais
July 14th, 2005, 07:21 AM
Dogscoff, personally I'd suggest you 'Buy' Se4:Deluxe,.. after all, the Box alone is worth it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif (And what good is a 'collection' if it has holes?)

Cheers!

P.S. Douglas, quoting from any beta chat or beta forum is an "No-No". try to curb the urge in the future.

Slick
July 14th, 2005, 12:34 PM
David, is the intent of Deluxe to simply put the latest patch v1.91 together with all the latest mods and accessories?

or (I'm hoping) is the intent of Deluxe to issue a final patch that actually enhances/fixes bugs the game itself, in addition to the above?

Ed Kolis
July 14th, 2005, 02:38 PM
It's been said around here that the music system will be revamped, so I imagine other changes taking place, too...

edit: and Fyron did bring back that old buglist thread with some sense of urgency, didn't he? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

David E. Gervais
July 14th, 2005, 09:28 PM
Slick, the 'intent' of Se4 Deluxe is to bring SE to retail. To introduce it to a market that has very little awareness of the Space Empires franchise. Starfury is also going to be released to retail and hopefully this will help to put Malfador more in the public eye.

It's all about making the public aware that SE exists in preperation of the release of se5. The only information I can point you to is the chat logs at se.net and any press releases at strategyfirst.com.

I expect that at some point aaron will make a post at malfador.com regarding the 'differences' and 'upgrade' of se4, se4:Gold and se4:Deluxe.

Sorry I can't say more, but it's not my place to discuss items covered in my NDA.

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif