64 bit SEV?

[Iron Giant]

Since XP 64 bit is now out, will SEV be released in 64 bit mode? I know that 32 bit apps will work in 64 bit, but will SEV have a 64bit version to take advantage of it?

I want 500 battleships duking it out at once http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Suicide Junkie]

SE4 has seen 3000+ baseship battles...

The only problem is that the ships start to overlap the stellar objects and even each other on the combat screen http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

I once dumped a thousand ships into one system in Starfury...
Got 0.25 frames per second with a junk video card set to max sight distance, and a sky filled with 2-pixel ships shooting half-pixel sparkles at each other as far as the eye could see in all directions http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[Thermodyne]

Windows amd64 is not yet ready for prime time, and 32 bit performance takes a hit running on 64bit. With that said, the big atvantage comes from additional memory addressing. For that you'll need a new system board and an arm full of ram chips.

[Aiken]

There's no Delphi 64-bit compiler yet, afaik.

[boran_blok]

SEV is written in delphi ?

[Atrocities]

NO COMMENT!

[Baron Munchausen]

SE 3 & 4 were written in Delphi. I'm not sure about SE V. MM has been aware that most of the fancy graphics libraries available are in C++ so I think he's been at least planning to move to a C++ development environment. (Probably MS 'Studio' although I think Borland still produces a C compiler of some sort?)

Hmm, searching the SE 5 beta executable for copyright strings I found Borland and some occurences of Delphi nearby. Guess he's still using some version of Delphi. You'd have to ask him exactly what version it is.

[Aiken]

Baron Munchausen said:
SE 3 & 4 were written in Delphi. I'm not sure about SE V. MM has been aware that most of the fancy graphics libraries available are in C++ so I think he's been at least planning to move to a C++ development environment. (Probably MS 'Studio' although I think Borland still produces a C compiler of some sort?)



I guess many pieces of se4's code were reused in se5. Not to mention SF 3d engine, which is written in Delphi.

Borland produces CPP Builder. Not too popular today.

[GreyCloud]

SE is written Delphi ? nice http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Delphi is a great language, like Pascal but Object Orientated, its not great for graphics, but it handles everything else excellently, especially databases (how many of them are there in SE !)

[Gandalf Parker]

You would be surprised how many games, or programs in general, are not written in C++. Libraries do tend to be but any progamming language can call libraries. Thats why I rankle when someone asks what to learn and gets C++ shot at them right away. Sure if you are planning to try for a job where a large team of programmers is locked away in cubicles working on one program then C++ is a good default answer.

Hmmmm there could be a Tshirt in there.
"LEARN C++ (if you want to work in a cubicle)"
Hey no flaming, Im only half serious. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Baron Munchausen]

Actually, 'hard core' programing jobs in general are drying up. Apparently they've all been sent to India... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050621/ap_on_hi_te/tech_job_decline;_ylt=AqecikmivFY94NBSAg6p7ses0NUE ;_ylu=X3oDMTA3cjE0b2MwBHNlYwM3Mzg-

So the stuff to learn now is 'Visual Basic' and 'MS Access' (the Office database language) so you can hack for your office manager... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

I was a reasonably good Turbo Pascal programmer once... before 'Delphi' even existed. I suppose I'd have to learn all over again, by now. Never was much good at C or x86 assembler.

[Gandalf Parker]

Ive known that was coming for a long time. Ive always telecommuted. Im surprised it took so long for them to realise that the guy they never saw anyway could be replaced with a guy farther away who would work for way less. Heck almost a decade ago we had our MUD game vastly improved by a russian programmer who only spoke to us in C. We sent him an old modem for free to speed him up and he was thrilled because it represented 6 months pay to him.

But hey, its all trade-off. our geeks get wives.
http://www.bride.ru/

[Thermodyne]

Baron Munchausen said:
Actually, 'hard core' programing jobs in general are drying up. Apparently they've all been sent to India... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050621/ap_on_hi_te/tech_job_decline;_ylt=AqecikmivFY94NBSAg6p7ses0NUE ;_ylu=X3oDMTA3cjE0b2MwBHNlYwM3Mzg-

So the stuff to learn now is 'Visual Basic' and 'MS Access' (the Office database language) so you can hack for your office manager... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

I was a reasonably good Turbo Pascal programmer once... before 'Delphi' even existed. I suppose I'd have to learn all over again, by now. Never was much good at C or x86 assembler.



Access is not the "thing" anymore. If you can do SQL you are hired.

[Thermodyne]

Gandalf Parker said:
Ive known that was coming for a long time. Ive always telecommuted. Im surprised it took so long for them to realise that the guy they never saw anyway could be replaced with a guy farther away who would work for way less. Heck almost a decade ago we had our MUD game vastly improved by a russian programmer who only spoke to us in C. We sent him an old modem for free to speed him up and he was thrilled because it represented 6 months pay to him.

But hey, its all trade-off. our geeks get wives.
http://www.bride.ru/



At my day job, our two Unix programers are ex-Soviets. They know Unix and some ither old stuff, and I expect they will be very unhappy later this year when the last main frame gets moved downtown to the datacenter from hell.

[boran_blok]

Thermodyne said:
Access is not the "thing" anymore. If you can do SQL you are hired.



SQL is easy as hell, now cobol, there lies a challenge, or even worse CODASYL database systems. but the latter are really outdated.