Space Food Empires - PBW Test Games

[Captain Kwok]

Greetings!

I'm looking for players to test the next version of the Space Food Empires mod when it comes out so I'll be setting up two pbw games with 5 players in a small galaxy and 48hr auto turns.

The restriction for the games will be that you'll have to use one of the default empire files as I need to make sure they are decently balanced.

The objectives of the games are to address play-balance issues and fix bugs plus have some fun.

The games are listed as Space Food Empires 001 and 002.

Please e-mail or post your pbw user name and the race you'd like to play and I will add you to the appropriate game when I set them up. I'm hoping to start the game within two weeks, when the next version of the mod is out. Note there is a copy of this thread at SE.net: http://www.spaceempires.net/home/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=4710#4710

To view more details about your prospective empire choice, visit the Space Food Empires site. The empire and technology pages are up to date, and the ship pages will have current details by the end of Thursday June 30th.

Current Openings:

Game 1
Banana Star Republic - Captain Kwok
Fruit Federation - Ed Kolis
Meat Empire - Renegade 13
Pumpkin Patch - Ragnarok X
Vegetable Dominion - Tescosamoa

Game 2
Broccoli Collective - Tescosamoa
Carrot Imperium - JAFisher44
Corn Confederacy - Imperator Fyron
Potato Republic - Captain Kwok
Tomato Order - RCCCL

[Renegade 13]

Count me in! My PBW user name is Renegade 13, and I'd love to play the meat empire, if possible.

What version of your mod will be used? I'll need to make sure I have it...

[Ragnarok-X]

Ill play Meat in #1.

[Ragnarok-X]

Arg Renegade :p 2 mins fs.

[Captain Kwok]

The version to be used will be 0.20 when it's released. I have a number of days off starting tomorrow so I'm aiming to finish it off by the end of the weekend. It's significantly different from the current 0.11 available at the website so it probably won't be much help to download that one.

[Ed Kolis]

I'll take the Fruit Federation! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif
edit: and in case you don't know, my PBW name is ekolis

[Ragnarok-X]

Ill take the Pumpkins in #1.

[Captain Kwok]

I'll be running both games concurrently just in case you thought game 2 would be starting later. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Renegade 13]

Ragnarok-X said:
Arg Renegade :p 2 mins fs.


http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif Barely beat you!

[JAFisher44]

I'll weild the Carrot. Die all you alien food scum!!! there won't be any mixing of food on this plate. Mwahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

[Ragnarok-X]

I just decided to play game 1 since i believe there wont be enough players for 2 games at the same time. Considering closing game 2 and make 2 more slots in game 1 would be neat :p

[Captain Kwok]

Ragnarok-X said:
I just decided to play game 1 since i believe there wont be enough players for 2 games at the same time. Considering closing game 2 and make 2 more slots in game 1 would be neat :p

I went with two games because I need all 10 races tested and a single 10-player game would move much slower than two games of 5 players. And yes I think I will get enough players for both. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Renegade 13]

Yeah you'll fill both games no problem.

[tesco samoa]

hi kwok i would like to help out.

you can make the empire files for me to try for both games.

[Captain Kwok]

Tesco,

I've assigned you to the Vegetable Dominion in game 1 and the Broccoli Collective in game 2. Both races are generally evil. As mentioned previously, all empire files will be distributed by me! Mo ha ha!

You guys can also check out the website to sneak a peek at what's in the mod or learn more about the race you'll be using, as all of the pages are now fully up-to-date to version 0.20 with the exception of the Vegetable Dominion ship page - which I'll be finishing off later today as I finalize their ship details. Ok, there's a little minor updating of new racial traits on the empire pages themselves too. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Speaking of ver 0.20, it's almost done and since the games are more or less filled up - it looks like next weekend (i.e. Saturday) we can start.

[tesco samoa]

i will learn as i play http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

so we doing a 1 planet slow game and 5 planet slow game to judge speed as well...

[RCCCL]

So whats left open right now?? I'd like to play.

[Captain Kwok]

There's two spots in game 2: One for the Corn Confederacy and the other for the Tomato Order.

[RCCCL]

Sign me up for the Tomato Order then. !!All heil Lord Ripe N. Juicy!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[JAFisher44]

Now we just need some Corn!

[RCCCL]

Hey Kwok! Saw you were on, thought I'd ask you. Get anyone for the Corn Confederacy yet?

[RCCCL]

^^ Also intended that ^^ as a *bump* to get someone to sign up for it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Captain Kwok]

If you check the first post in the thread you can see for yourself if someone has signed up for the Corn, which they haven't yet. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

The next version isn't quite ready yet so as long as somebody signs up by Saturday there shouldn't be any problem.

I think I will make both games 1 planet starts at medium tech and low research cost.

[RCCCL]

Meh, I suppose I could have just looked at the first post. Although that would have taken some effort to click the little 1, or the previous button. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/yawn.gif


http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif*!Sarcasm!* http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif

[Captain Kwok]

Change your settings to display the maximum number of messages per page, which is like 50 or 100 or something like that and you'll eliminate the need to click on previous pages for most threads here.

[Captain Kwok]

Greetings.

Just a little bump to advertise the last available position in game 2 for the Corn Confederacy.

On a side note I loaded version 0.20 for the first time with no errors, so I'll be tweaking things for a couple more days and making sure that no serious bugs have squirted through.

[Captain Kwok]

Sir Fyron has yielded to my badgering and will suit up in the final slot as the Corn Confederacy. I still have to work out a few minor issues with the next version that will be used in the game.

I'll be posting the games for you to join tomorrow on PBW. I'll be sure to post here to let you know.

[Captain Kwok]

Greetings.

All players listed below in Game 1, please request to join 'Space Food Empires 001' on PBW.

Likewise, all players listed in Game 2, please request to join 'Space Food Empires 002' on PBW.

Game will start in approximately 1 week.

[Captain Kwok]

Greetings!

I've been testing the mod version we'll be using and it looks pretty good. I've already caught a number of little bugs and will spend the next couple of days putting the final touches on it. You can check out what your empire configuration will be at the website (http://sfe.captainkwok.net/home.php) as I've posted those details already. They're in the empires section.

It looks like we're still on schedule to start this saturday. At that time I'll compose a lengthy e-mail with a few tips and requests for the testing.

Thanks!

[RCCCL]

Are you going to e-mail the mod to us as well?

[Captain Kwok]

RCCCL said:
Are you going to e-mail the mod to us as well?

No. It'll be a download from my site likely tomorrow. It's about a 8Mb zip/rar these days.

[Captain Kwok]

You can find the version we'll be using for the game here:
http://sfe.captainkwok.net/downloads.php

All you have to do is just upload the the default 2000 point empire file for the race you'll be using to pbw. I'll have the mod posted on pbw shortly and we'll be up and running.

[Captain Kwok]

Bump.

Still waiting on a number of you to upload!

[Ed Kolis]

Um, you could just start the game yourself using the exact same empire files that you provided with the mod http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Captain Kwok]

Ed Kolis said:
Um, you could just start the game yourself using the exact same empire files that you provided with the mod http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

That is true, except I thought you guys might want to put a password or something. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Ed Kolis]

Oh... I didn't think to do that http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Renegade 13]

Captain Kwok said:
Bump.

Still waiting on a number of you to upload!


Sorry, my internet was down for a day or so. Empire is uploaded.

[RCCCL]

I took a look at the mod, why are the colony modules 3500kt?

Did you make them that large on purpose?

[Captain Kwok]

Check the component description, it tells you that the module requires the use of the colony mount to be sized to a colony ship hull. This is to restrict the use of colony modules to colony ships only.

[RCCCL]

Ah, I see. Clever!

[tesco samoa]

kwok when are you going to upload all the empires ??

[Ed Kolis]

Just take the default empire file for your race, assign a password, save it as something else, and upload it.

[Captain Kwok]

For some odd reason I couldn't download the empire files from pbw (graphic or text) so I just added the default ones I had. Please be sure to password protect your file on the first turn if you wish to do so.

Anyway the game has started! Check your pbw e-mails as I will send out some brief instructions.

Thanks!

[Captain Kwok]

Oops.

One quick note - please do not use large mounts with weapons labelled as torpedoes - I forgot to restrict these mounts to direct fire beam weapons only. This will be corrected in the next patch.

[Captain Kwok]

One last item. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

You can post specific questions/bugs in this dedicated forum:
http://www.spaceempires.net/home/forum-23.html

You'll have to register at SE.net if you haven't yet.

[Fyron]

Didn't like the edit button, eh?

[Ed Kolis]

Do you also check the PBW forums? I posted a bunch of comments there http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Captain Kwok]

Can you post comments and stuff in the SE.net forums? Perhaps I will get Fyron to create a subforum for the games.

From Ed's post at PBW.


Ed Kolis said:
We can't use heavy mounts on torpedoes but light mounts are OK? Not to mentino using mounts on FAT bombs...

There sure are a lot of component categories, which is rather confusing - how about lumping the weapons together at the end of the list like this: "Weapons - Pulse" instead of "Pulse Weapons"?

The design name lists are rather short...

The glucose pods say they need to be "repair" rather than "repaired" after each use...

Something weird is going on here... I added a Sensor Pod to my explorer hull, then added Combat Sensors, and the attack rating shot up 2% when I added the combat sensors... as if the ability only partially stacked! Did you perhaps use a negative minus-to-attack ability for part of the Combat Sensors' ability instead of a positive plus-to-attack ability for the whole thing?

The Nectar Extractors have the same pic as teh Protein Harvesters, not as the Carb Collectors as I'd expect...

Why can reactors and auxiliary control be placed on bases?



Light mounts are fine. The main reason I am restricting large mounts on torpedoes because they are heavy damage weapons already and the 2x damage mount is too unbalancing against small ships. Bombs are fine because they only target planets.

I will rename the weapon groups with the weapon prefix like I did in the tech area file. Thanks for pointing that out.

The design name files are WIPs. Some of them are much longer now (100-200 names), but weren't when I released it.

A lot of the images are just placeholder images for now. I will work on fixing those issues with similar or duplicates.

There is nothing wierd with the sensor pod. If you read the description it says it does not stack with combat sensors. What you are witnessing with the 2% difference is that the sensor pod has a 2% lower attack bonus since it is a combo component with long range scanners versus the dedicate combat sensors. When you have both on a design, it will the one with the highest value (combat sensors, +2% more) since they have the same family number.

I am toying with the idea of having bases joining fleets for supply - that and sometimes I forget to restrict these things to ships and drones. Speaking of drones I didn't add those in the last patch did I? Crap!

[Captain Kwok]

I've had Fyron setup a dedicated forum on SE.net called SFE - PBW Test Games for comments and discussions related to the mod.

Here is a link:
http://www.spaceempires.net/home/forum-46.html

[tesco samoa]

Hi kwok I will be able to get my turns in tonight

[Captain Kwok]

tesco samoa said:
Hi kwok I will be able to get my turns in tonight

Well, it's been 24hrs - perhaps tonight? Turns should only take 2 min to do.

[Captain Kwok]

Beep Beep Tesco. Let's get those turns in!

Also, we should be updating to the next version (0.21) by the weekend. It's just a minor patch that fixes a few of the items you've guys picked up on and adds pollution/unhappiness factors to industrial facilities.

[Captain Kwok]

PBW is currently down for an indefinite amount of time, hopefully it will be back on in a short rather than long while. In any case, we'll be moving to the next version (0.21) which I'm finalizing right now. The biggest addition in this patch is the industrial pollution and unhappiness. You can check out the general facilities page for a preview of that: http://sfe.captainkwok.net/tech/generalfacilities.php

[Kana]

Has the 'pollution' and happiness decrease ever been in a mod before...that is very cool...and very appropriate...I may consider borrowing this concept... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Kana

[Captain Kwok]

I believe SJ came up with the concept and Fyron has since added them to the Adamant mod, and I suppose SJ's latest effort, Carrier Battles, probably has it too.

[Fyron]

GritEcon didn't have pollution. It made facilities require workforce (organics) and power (radioactives) to operate by using negative point generation abilities, at fixed rates. Carrier Battles has the pollution though. Hmm... ModWorks could use a Pollution mod, and one based on the overworking = unhappiness model in Adamant.

[Captain Kwok]

Please finish the current turn with version 0.20 of the mod and when PBW comes back online, I'll execute the turn with version 0.21!

You shouldn't have to worry all that much about pollution and unhappiness on your homeworld as I didn't modify the homeworld facilities at this time. However, you'll need to keep an eye on your colonies. Do note that troops can increase population happiness at the moment, but this might not be so in the future so you should be prepared to build happiness facilities.

[Captain Kwok]

Due to some RL issues, one of the players has had to opt out of the pbw test game Space Food Empires 002.

This means I'm looking for a replacement for the Carrot Imperium. Anyone interested?

[Captain Kwok]

Bump.

I'm still looking for a hardy volunteer to take over the Carrot Imperium. It's still very early in the game (turn 5), so there wouldn't much time involved in switching over to your play style! Plus, a new update for the mod is ready to be applied that adds some neat stuff.

The game is listed on pbw as 'Space Food Empires 002'.

[Captain Kwok]

Still not filled. Seriously no one is interested in helping me out here???

[Captain Kwok]

I'm starting to sound like a broken record here.

The Carrot Imperium in Space Food Empires 002 on PBW is still up for grabs. I have been maintaining this empire over the last few turns, so no AI worries here. Sign up and help a modder out. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Captain Kwok]

Please note that we'll be upgrading to version 0.22 during the next turn execution.

And yes, we still could use a replacement player for the Carrot Imperium in Space Food Empires 002!

[Captain Kwok]

The games have been updated to version 0.22!

Still looking for a replacement as well for the Carrot Imperium... and this like my 7th consecutive post in the thread - a new record for lameness. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif

[Renegade 13]

Don't worry Kwok, I won't let you get 8 in a row! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Please, someone take over the Carrot Imperium! The game is still in the very early stages, all empires are virtually equal, and since it's so early you can mold the empire easily into whatever you want. Don't let this one slip away. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[Captain Kwok]

Greetings!

I need two replacement players. One for Space Food Empires 001 for the Pumpkin Patch and another for the Carrot Imperium in Space Food Empires 002.

Turns are run every 2 to 3 days so it's not very time consuming!

[Captain Kwok]

Players, please check your e-mail as I'm going to end the two current games in progress.