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Slick
September 7th, 2005, 12:21 PM
It's been a while now and the fans are getting a little restless. We'll take screen shots, chat session, status reports, demo release; just give us something to chew on for a while. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

PvK
September 7th, 2005, 01:40 PM
How about an SE:IV Deluxe update? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

narf poit chez BOOM
September 7th, 2005, 01:43 PM
Slick said:
It's been a while now and the fans are getting a little restless. We'll take screen shots, chat session, status reports, demo release; just give us something to chew on for a while. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif


Yeah, throw us a bone! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Fyron
September 7th, 2005, 01:51 PM
Umm... I can tell you that I am unable to continue beta testing this excellent game at the moment. What that gets you, I have no idea.

Captain Kwok
September 7th, 2005, 02:28 PM
I can also reveal that I've had my first 'just one more turn' experience with SE:V.

bearclaw
September 7th, 2005, 02:35 PM
Captain Kwok said:
I can also reveal that I've had my first 'just one more turn' experience with SE:V.



Hey!! STOP TEASING!!!!
Need... something... anything...

Slick
September 7th, 2005, 02:49 PM
Sounds like it's pretty playable.

Xrati
September 7th, 2005, 04:20 PM
It sounds like it may need a warning on it! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Puke
September 7th, 2005, 06:04 PM
i bet its boreing. you can only conquer the galaxy so many times. there are only so many good mod ideas before they start getting redundant. and this board isnt that great.

i could leave any time i wanted to.

Ed Kolis
September 7th, 2005, 06:05 PM
LOL!
Well perhaps you can only conquer the galaxy so many times, but how many times do you need to FAIL to get there? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Iron Giant
September 7th, 2005, 06:35 PM
We just went through this a few weeks ago. We were told that the latest information is on www.malfador.com. (http://www.malfador.com.) Latest to us and latest to those most excellent designers of this beloved game is not the same thing, and/or they are up to their buttocks in programming alligators, i.e. the 14 hour work day part of the project.

There were some screenshots posted to www.gamespot.com (http://www.gamespot.com) just a couple weeks ago that were not on the malfador site. Nothing earth-shattering (pun intended http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif ) but some nice, but brief, info.

I think were going to be on a media blackout until December/January, but I'm not anybody.... "Zaphods just zis guy, ya know?"

Fyron
September 7th, 2005, 08:57 PM
* rates puke a -3.64 stars.

Atrocities
September 7th, 2005, 09:18 PM
Puke said:
i bet its boreing. you can only conquer the galaxy so many times. there are only so many good mod ideas before they start getting redundant. and this board isnt that great.

i could leave any time i wanted to.



But you haven't left, and you still play so I would say your an addict. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Update on SE V.... Hum lets see... The beta has some of the best beta testers in the gaming industry and we are all hard at work trying to do our part in helping to make the game a better game for all. Aaron is a focused hard working game developer who listens to his beta testers and is driven to make the best game he can.

Fyron
September 7th, 2005, 09:48 PM
The game franchise has not, I repeat, has NOT been bought out by Vivendi Universal. That is all.

Atrocities
September 8th, 2005, 01:02 AM
LOL - If it had, it would have been killed by now so don't worry.

Kamog
September 8th, 2005, 02:54 AM
Well, it's nice to hear that Aaron and the Beta testers are working hard on SEV. The screenshots from a couple of weeks ago looked excellent. Ah, there will be many fun and sleepless nights playing SEV when it comes out. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Fyron
September 8th, 2005, 02:57 AM
In further news, yet another Malfador title will sadly lack space cows with plasma udders.

Puke
September 8th, 2005, 03:03 AM
no it wont. i'll be modding them in.

Atrocities
September 8th, 2005, 09:41 AM
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gifhttp://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/stupid.gif

What I will miss most that is not in SE V that was in SE IV, is the fact that you can no longer colonize planets. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif This whole new SFI inspired colonization system just doesn't work right. You can't colonize, well you can, but the worlds have to be JUST like your planet type that match your size, atmosphere, BBHT make up, and so on. Gone are the days of old when you could colonize any planet that you had technology for. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Add in the fact that your fleets are now automated, man that sucks. The AI decides where, when, and how much to fleet. And you can't even build bases now... they have to be assembled and then upgraded ala GalCiv style.

Gone are the days of old when a player could control every aspect of his empire from set up through operation. More and more of the game is being ported to AI control in order to give the player less to do. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif (Less micromanagement)

Even the fonts in the game have been changed. The are now fuzzy and lack the depth that were in previous games.

The only thing inovative about this game now is the 3d map that we see in the screen shots and even that is being reviewed for possible changes by the new SFI SE V Quality Programing Team (QPT). Most likely because the 3d map comes at a performance price that will force most people to upgrade to at least a Nvida FX 5700 ultra or Raddeon 9800 to run. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

I don't know, but I think the bean counters and marketing people over at SFI have way to much control over the game. I mean wanting to reclassify it as a Civ based Turn game over 4x is just wrong. IT'S not a Civ based turn game, its a Expand, Exploit, Explore, and Exterminate game. Oh wait, the Exterminate part has been toned way down do to the new game labeling laws. The Exploit part was cut out to save programing space and time in order to get the game to the store sooner, and the Explore function was relagated to AI control so that its all automated now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif Even ship design is automated now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

And changing the name.... that was just what turned me off to the whole thing. Well I guess the code name, SE V, will do until the official new name is posted. (You won't like the new name but the NDA prevents me from telling you so you'll have to wait.) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Lets face it, this isn't your space empires game kids, its theirs and its not Space Empires. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Emperor's Child
September 8th, 2005, 09:50 AM
Atrocities said:
I what I will most most that is not in SE V that is in SE IV, is the fact that ... etc



Huh? What are you saying, you lost me.

Atrocities
September 8th, 2005, 09:56 AM
I've already said too much. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif You'll have to read between the lines.

Captain Kwok
September 8th, 2005, 10:20 AM
I'm not even sure what the heck you are getting at here AT. If this supposed to be some tongue-in-check commentary for Galatic Civilizations II, then it doesn't really come across at that...

In fact, if I didn't have privy to SE:V, I would be greatly confused about the info you posted and wondering if you were talking about SE:V and that it was being 'screwed over' - which IT IS NOT for everybody else's relief.

Atrocities
September 8th, 2005, 10:43 AM
So what your saying is, my bad?

I was just playing around and I think most people might pick up on that fact. Come on NO ONE is going to believe for a second that SE V is being changed into GalCiv. Or that SE V is being made in the shadow of MOO3.

Even if someone should happen to take that post seriously, and I am willing to bet no one would, then I apologize. THE POST is a spoof.

bearclaw
September 8th, 2005, 12:55 PM
Atrocities said:
So what your saying is, my bad?

I was just playing around and I think most people might pick up on that fact. Come on NO ONE is going to believe for a second that SE V is being changed into GalCiv. Or that SE V is being made in the shadow of MOO3.

Even if someone should happen to take that post seriously, and I am willing to bet no one would, then I apologize. THE POST is a spoof.



I didn't but then again, I've been reading AT's posts for years and until I see shipsets attached to the post, I don't think I take anything from AT at face value http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Caduceus
September 8th, 2005, 03:59 PM
bearclaw said:
I've been reading AT's posts for years and until I see shipsets attached to the post, I don't think I take anything from AT at face value http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif



Words to live by, Bearclaw, words to live by.

Raging Deadstar
September 8th, 2005, 04:48 PM
Heh, my sarcasm meter was going off as soon as I read that Atrocities had posted it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Gave me a laugh though, You would make one hell of an (Mis)Information Minister in politics Atrocities http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Puke
September 8th, 2005, 09:48 PM
i hear there will be an easter-egg hidden in the game, where you play an interspecies dating game with adult content. naked eee doing unscrupulous things.

Combat Wombat
September 8th, 2005, 10:16 PM
Puke said:
i hear there will be an easter-egg hidden in the game, where you play an interspecies dating game with adult content. naked eee doing unscrupulous things.



How did you find out about fyrons love shack?!? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Atrocities
September 9th, 2005, 12:05 AM
I am the minister of Mis-information. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif When I am serious I will let you know. When I am not serious, you should know.

Fyron
September 9th, 2005, 12:47 AM
Puke has spies inside everybody...

wilhil
September 9th, 2005, 12:52 AM
Atrocities said:
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gifhttp://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/stupid.gif

What I will miss most that is not in SE V that was in SE IV, is the fact that you can no longer colonize planets. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif This whole new SFI inspired colonization system just doesn't work right. You can't colonize, well you can, but the worlds have to be JUST like your planet type that match your size, atmosphere, BBHT make up, and so on. Gone are the days of old when you could colonize any planet that you had technology for. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Add in the fact that your fleets are now automated, man that sucks. The AI decides where, when, and how much to fleet. And you can't even build bases now... they have to be assembled and then upgraded ala GalCiv style.

Gone are the days of old when a player could control every aspect of his empire from set up through operation. More and more of the game is being ported to AI control in order to give the player less to do. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif (Less micromanagement)

Even the fonts in the game have been changed. The are now fuzzy and lack the depth that were in previous games.

The only thing inovative about this game now is the 3d map that we see in the screen shots and even that is being reviewed for possible changes by the new SFI SE V Quality Programing Team (QPT). Most likely because the 3d map comes at a performance price that will force most people to upgrade to at least a Nvida FX 5700 ultra or Raddeon 9800 to run. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

I don't know, but I think the bean counters and marketing people over at SFI have way to much control over the game. I mean wanting to reclassify it as a Civ based Turn game over 4x is just wrong. IT'S not a Civ based turn game, its a Expand, Exploit, Explore, and Exterminate game. Oh wait, the Exterminate part has been toned way down do to the new game labeling laws. The Exploit part was cut out to save programing space and time in order to get the game to the store sooner, and the Explore function was relagated to AI control so that its all automated now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif Even ship design is automated now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

And changing the name.... that was just what turned me off to the whole thing. Well I guess the code name, SE V, will do until the official new name is posted. (You won't like the new name but the NDA prevents me from telling you so you'll have to wait.) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Lets face it, this isn't your space empires game kids, its theirs and its not Space Empires. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif



hopefully no one else said this... is he turning SE 5 in to moo3?

you forgot to add, you can order a few things, but when you do, the computer ignores it and does something completly diffrent.... (worst money i ever spent on that game!)

Renegade 13
September 9th, 2005, 02:48 AM
Imperator Fyron said:
Puke has spies inside everybody...



*Groan*

Loser
September 9th, 2005, 03:00 AM
And then there's the part where the AI lands troops on a planet and, rudely interrupting ground combat, proceeds to obliterate the entire planet from orbit.

Kamog
September 9th, 2005, 03:08 AM
Whew! I'm glad AT was just kidding. Got me worried for a minute there when I started reading that post. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Raging Deadstar
September 9th, 2005, 06:36 AM
Imperator Fyron said:
Puke has spies inside everybody...



Congratulations Fyron. That has to the creepiest thing I have read on these boards! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif

*shudders*

Atrocities
September 9th, 2005, 07:14 AM
For the record, SE 5 is Nothing like Moo3. I know I poked some fun at it, but honestly Aaron is way to dedicated to ever allow anyone to dictate how his games are going to be. SE 5 will not dissapoint and is so much better than MOO3, even in the early stages of beta, that to compare them would be like comparing a Soviet made T32 to an M1A2 Abrams Main Battle Tank.

Atrocities
September 9th, 2005, 07:16 AM
Raging Deadstar said:

Imperator Fyron said:
Puke has spies inside everybody...



Congratulations Fyron. That has to the creepiest thing I have read on these boards! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif

*shudders*



ROFLMAO - Thats a good one! /threads/images/Graemlins/Envy.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rant.gif

dogscoff
September 9th, 2005, 07:19 AM
Imperator Fyron said:
Puke has spies inside everybody...




Puke: Agent Chunky, report.
Agent Chunky: Well, the subject's upper digestional tract has been showing some increased acidic activity these last few weeks sir, which indicates an elevated level of stress. Based on this, I think he's planning an assault on your homeworld- probably a carrier fleet, with some drone carriers for recon. I'd recommend seeding the warp points with Point defence sats.
Puke: I see. Does Agent Bile concur with your analysis?
Agent Chunky: I regret to report that Agent Bile was flushed last week sir, following an unfortunate incident involving the subject, 8 pints of Mexican lager and a dodgy kebab. I was lucky not to escape myself, Sir.
Puke: I'm sorry to hear that. Anything else to report?
Agent Chunky: There have been rumblings from the gastric ulcer about research into stellar manipulation technologies, but those are unsubstantiated as yet, Sir.
Puke: Good work Agent...

David E. Gervais
September 9th, 2005, 08:19 AM
The only thing you need to know about se5 is that it will have a built in cheat code (that only I and Aaron Know) so that I can finally win a game. Unfortunately Aaron is planning on disabling this 'essential' feature when I play in multi-palyer mode. (which means I'll be dying on turn 32 or 41 on a good day.)

lol, Cheers!

P.S. Great spoof post AT.

Xrati
September 9th, 2005, 10:31 AM
David, just remember "You are not alone!" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Desert Fox
September 9th, 2005, 02:48 PM
How many of you actually play galciv besides the Demo? AT you have, but most of the others I bet not. Altarian expansion made the first galciv a great game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Galciv2 will be not like the first game at all. I am beta testing it with the lead programmer, the game is awesome, especially with the new ship designs and battles. SE series is a completely different game IMO, much more depth and complex is the main differences. Galciv has viturally no bugs unlike SEIV, do I make statements about that game? Hell no I love both of them. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

wilhil
September 9th, 2005, 03:09 PM
Atrocities said:
For the record, SE 5 is Nothing like Moo3. I know I poked some fun at it, but honestly Aaron is way to dedicated to ever allow anyone to dictate how his games are going to be. SE 5 will not dissapoint and is so much better than MOO3, even in the early stages of beta, that to compare them would be like comparing a Soviet made T32 to an M1A2 Abrams Main Battle Tank.



you do realise I was joking when I said moo3 in my post...

did anyone actually beleive your last post?

Renegade 13
September 9th, 2005, 03:31 PM
Desert Fox said:
How many of you actually play galciv besides the Demo? AT you have, but most of the others I bet not. Altarian expansion made the first galciv a great game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Galciv2 will be not like the first game at all. I am beta testing it with the lead programmer, the game is awesome, especially with the new ship designs and battles. SE series is a completely different game IMO, much more depth and complex is the main differences. Galciv has viturally no bugs unlike SEIV, do I make statements about that game? Hell no I love both of them. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif


I've played the full version of GalCiv, not just the demo. Haven't played the Altarian expansion though. There was only one problem I had with the game. No matter what, the AI always knew where all the habitable planets were, before they even explored the galaxy. That was my biggest problem with GalCiv, since a game shouldn't cheat unless you tell it to, like with the AI bonuses in SEIV. It was really frustrating when you'd be exploring all the surrounding stars, just to find the AI had already colonized most of them which I'd calculated was impossible given their technology level, max number of ships at their disposal, and simple probability.

Strategia_In_Ultima
September 9th, 2005, 04:10 PM
wilhil said:
did anyone actually beleive your last post?






Emperor's Child said:

Atrocities said:
I what I will most most that is not in SE V that is in SE IV, is the fact that ... etc



Huh? What are you saying, you lost me.




Kamog said:
Whew! I'm glad AT was just kidding. Got me worried for a minute there when I started reading that post. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif



http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Ed Kolis
September 9th, 2005, 04:26 PM
I've played GalCiv a bit... not too bad a game, even has some nice features I'd like to see expanded on in SE5... I loved the mutant squirrel capture ball event though, it really reminded me of POKEMON and made me laugh out loud! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Atrocities
September 9th, 2005, 08:19 PM
Gal Civ 2 is taking a lot of features from SE 4 and using them. So who knows what game will be better.

Atrocities
September 9th, 2005, 08:21 PM
wilhil said:

Atrocities said:
For the record, SE 5 is Nothing like Moo3. I know I poked some fun at it, but honestly Aaron is way to dedicated to ever allow anyone to dictate how his games are going to be. SE 5 will not dissapoint and is so much better than MOO3, even in the early stages of beta, that to compare them would be like comparing a Soviet made T32 to an M1A2 Abrams Main Battle Tank.



you do realise I was joking when I said moo3 in my post...

did anyone actually beleive your last post?



Oh I know. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif But I wanted to say it any ways..... Just in case to be safe. You know, cover thy own ***.

douglas
September 10th, 2005, 03:05 PM
Slick said:
It's been a while now and the fans are getting a little restless. We'll take screen shots, chat session, status reports, demo release; just give us something to chew on for a while. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif


From channel #spaceempires just a moment ago:
"DavidGervais steps out of the room, and will be back in about an hour or so, (hopefully with a well known friend) cheers!"

Instructions for joining the channel can be found here (http://seirc.spaceempires.net).

Ed Kolis
September 10th, 2005, 07:09 PM
Well, we had a nice chat with Aaron... did you know he's planning on releasing not just the SE2 source but the SE3 source as well?
Check attachment for the log http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

narf poit chez BOOM
September 10th, 2005, 07:39 PM
Yaay!

Q
September 11th, 2005, 03:16 AM
Ed Kolis said:
Well, we had a nice chat with Aaron... did you know he's planning on releasing not just the SE2 source but the SE3 source as well?
Check attachment for the log http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif



That would be great. I liked SE III very much, but the modding possibilities were extremely limited. If the source code is resleased you might be able to create quite interesting mods of SE III.

Kamog
September 11th, 2005, 01:50 PM
That's great! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Hmm, but I think I'd be too busy playing SEV to be working on SEIII mods, though. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif