Malfador Shuts Down

[Atrocities]

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif Gotcha http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Please take the poll.

[Atrocities]

I most identify with the military look and feel of TOS but just love the ships and style of the TMP era. (Trek Motion Picture)

[narf poit chez BOOM]

TOS.

Also, rotted tomato.

[inigma]

i shoulda guessed. atro is known to be a joker on these forums.

[Atrocities]

Hey if it works for the spammers of the world, why not here? Bait and switch. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[General Woundwort]

AT, I swear, if it weren't for the fact that you just released the Reb set today... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif

[Combat Wombat]

Though I completely enjoy TOS and the TOS movies I grew up watching TNG so I am partial to that

[Captain Kwok]

"Military look and feel" of TOS? What's military about women in mini-skirts and countless romances with each and every alien by the Captain?

[Atrocities]

Captain Kwok said:
"Military look and feel" of TOS? What's military about women in mini-skirts and countless romances with each and every alien by the Captain?



Are you mocking me? If you are, then prepare to face the whirl wind baby for I shall reign down upon you with the fury of Gods mighty breath. As I am a mushroom cloud laying SOB with the will, the might, and the desire to lay waste to your universe! /threads/images/Graemlins/Envy.gif

[Colonel]

You EVIL EVIL person AT, Shame on you for such deception. :lol: :p anyways I like the TMP ships alot, but am more accustomed to TNG

[Atrocities]

You could no more evade my wrath than you can your own shadow!

[dogscoff]

Trek. Ugh. I vote for B5.

Oh alright then, put me down for TNG- Mainly for Patrick Stewart & Brent Spiner, who made so much of their roles.

TOS was crap, Ent was an abomination. I guess DS9 was OK in places.

[Raging Deadstar]

Captain Kwok said:
"Military look and feel" of TOS? What's military about women in mini-skirts and countless romances with each and every alien by the Captain?



Seconding Dogscoff's comment on Babylon 5, I can just here Londo in the background hearing about Kwoks comment and going: "Ahhh, Trully an Enlightened Culture!" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Strategia_In_Ultima]

Two words:

Star Wreck (http://www.starwreck.com/)

[Caduceus]

I enjoyed the sleekness of the vehicles in the movies - they seemed to be having more fun with the design.

[Xrati]

After years of No Trek, I remember watching the first episode of TNG (Encounter at Far Point) thinking "this better be worth the wait and my time." I was not disappointed! Even though I had a cousin who appeared in one episode of TOS (she was the Bridge Bimbo for that episode) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/redface.gif and watched it religiously, I'm sorry but TNG took it to another level! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

[Ed Kolis]

Star Wreck? Is it just me or do those 2 guys look like Arnold Rimmer? Especially the guy on the left with the hat...

[Fyron]

dogscoff said:
I guess DS9 was OK in places.

This is because it stole a few of the good ideas from B5. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[El_Phil]

Well B5 did nick Checkov from TOS. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Whilst he was excellent, both the actor and character, I never really got over the shock. I always half expected Bester to start talking in bad Russian.

On a topic related note, I just saw DS9 'In The Pale Moonlight.' a few days ago. Damn me that is even better than I remember, possibly one of the best Trek episodes I've ever seen.

[Fyron]

Bester has got to be one of the coolest recurring villians of any TV series. And unlike with 99% of ST villians, he actually had more than one aspect to his personality. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Wolfman77]

I acctually felt sorry for him a few times. It's nice to see that sometimes, makes you think.

[Ragnarok]

AT, why didn't you list Voyager there? Not that I would have picked it, but it should still be listed.

I picked TNG as it was, by far, the best of all ST time frames. Picard is one of the best ST captains of all time.

[NullAshton]

Bablyon 5 doesn't show on any channels, so I'm stuck watching farscape.

[Wolfman77]

I B5 all on tape, minus 2 shows in the 5th season, my daugter got ahold of one tape http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif Got the first season on DVD but haven't been able to afford the rest yet. I'll have to Ebay for them when I can now though.

[Atrocities]

Ragnarok said:
AT, why didn't you list Voyager there? Not that I would have picked it, but it should still be listed.

I picked TNG as it was, by far, the best of all ST time frames. Picard is one of the best ST captains of all time.



Voyager takes place in TNG era.

[NullAshton]

TNG era is before voyager. Voyager and DS9 was made during the same time, I believe.

[Combat Wombat]

NullAshton said:
TNG era is before voyager. Voyager and DS9 was made during the same time, I believe.



It is still roughtly the same time ashton, voyager is considered part of TNG universe

[General Woundwort]

I second the B5 sentiments here. I have all four seasons on DVD , and watch them regularly. I can't think of any major character that didn't shine, and it also produced my all-time favorite throw away line ("I want to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike...")

[Wolfman77]

Yes that was a great line. Especially since it came true. I have five seasons, did you misscount, or miss a season? The last was not on broadcast TV here.

[General Woundwort]

There was no fifth season. Trust me. It was a vile rumor. It never happened.

There was also no Highlander II, no Star Trek V, and no Alien: Resurrection. Just nightmarish hallucinations.

[Wolfman77]

lol...I see... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Arkcon]

NullAshton said:
Bablyon 5 doesn't show on any channels, so I'm stuck watching farscape.

Wish I had your problems. Always enjoyed Farscape, and missed most of the last season, except for the finale. They showed a few on the SciFi channel, out of sequence, with many gaps, then stopped. Someday I'll have to get my hands on the DVD's someday.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Highlander in 30 seconds, and performed by bunnies: http://www.angryalien.com/0905/highlanderbuns.asp

Where would we be without Aaron Williams to find stuff like this for us?

[Atrocities]

All five seasons of B5 on DVD - $330.00
All B5 movies on DVD - $110.00
All 13 Episodes of Crusader on DVD - $60.00
Being able to watch B5 anytime - Priceless.

[Kamog]

Yup, that's priceless. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I saw most of Babylon 5 but not entirely in order and I missed some episodes. One day I'll get the complete library and just watch them in sequence, one after another in its entirety.

[Strategia_In_Ultima]

NullAshton said:
TNG era is before voyager. Voyager and DS9 was made during the same time, I believe.



Voy and DS9 take place roughly in the TNG era, and Voy crosses over into the TNG movie era. At the start of Nemesis, Picard receives a call from admiral Janeway. Kathryn Janeway, not her father.

[El_Phil]

And that is morally wrong in so many ways it hurts. Apart from getting lost and then getting home again, fighting a few noncy Borg on the way, what has she done to deserve that promotion?

Hell she was rescued by Q so many times he deserves it far more.

[Xrati]

General Woundwort said:
I second the B5 sentiments here. I have all four seasons on DVD , and watch them regularly. I can't think of any major character that didn't shine, and it also produced my all-time favorite throw away line ("I want to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike...")



I personaly like Delenn's "Go ahead, make my day quote", when she warped in to save B5. "... the only Earth commander to defeat a Mimbari is behind me! You are in front of me. If you value your life you will be somewhere else!" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

[Blueentity]

If this was a poll on which series was more enjoyable to watch TNG had Spiner and Steward, as well as Q who was a welcome relief, most of the time. However, from a gameplay point of view, I would enjoy the early explore and expansion phase of the Enterprise era far more than the “Kill all the Klingons” of TOS or the “Let’s be friendly with everyone” of TNG.

[Rasorow]

Dont forget TOS also had its "Kill the Romulans" episodes. Truthfully I think the Romulans make better enemies then the Klingons.... They are sneakier.

Rasorow

Oh, and I think I would be more insterested in something around the time of the Enterprise B... Say after Star Trek VI and before TNG... still rough and wild with enough diplomacy to be ...... treacherous.

[bearclaw]

I like Klingons. Something about them. Just like Klingons. Not that you'd ever find me dressing up as one at a con or anything

(says while doing repair work on set of stormtrooper armor.)

[Hunpecked]

General Woundwort writes: "There was no fifth season. Trust me. It was a vile rumor. It never happened."

The term "fifth season" refers to that agonizingly prolonged anti-climax that followed the climactic fourth season.

Best line of the entire series, delivered by the recently resurrected Sheridan: "I was dead. I'm better now." Unfortunately, the show wasn't. Dead, I mean. Or better. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Second best part of the series: At the climax of the war, the pipsqueak humans tell the mighty Vorlons and Shadows, their superiors by millions of years, to "get the hell out of our galaxy!"--and they GO! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif

The best part of the series actually happened BEFORE the show started, apparently just so they could call it "Babylon 5" instead of "Babylon":

They said it was *daft* to build a space station in a swamp, but I showed them!
It sank unto the swamp. So I built a second space station. That sank into
the swamp too. My third space station sank into the swamp. So I built a fourth
one. That fell into a time warp and _then_ sank into the swamp. But the fifth
one... stayed up! --Monty Python/Babylon 5

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[David E. Gervais]

TOS is the best,.. period!

TNG? Let's see, Weisly Crusher=Bad, Reiker=Bad, The Doctors=Bad, Tasha=Bad, Q=Stupid, Gynen=Bad, Data=Good, Picard=Good, Worf=Good, Geordi=Good.

Result 5 Bad, 4 Good and One Stupid.. At best it fuddled through at mediocer speed. And the fact that the no longer had to 'Blodly go..' due to too many Holodeck episodes is Badx10^6.

DS9, Oh god, Now ST totally abandonns the 'Boldly Go,..' for "Come to us,.." Bad idea, bad, bad bad.

Voyager, Actually a fair attempt to bring life back into ST. Still too many Holodeck episodes. Best Casting Since TOS.

Enterprise, wtf? Piss poor, from the start, changing the opening music bad idea, and bad music to boot. Cast, felt like cardboard paper dolls, the captain's dog acted realistic at least. A series that is supposed to take place before the original and somehow the 'Borg' make an appearence. bad bad bad.

Other notes,.. Spock the single best Vulken ever. Have you seen Tuvok? whatch his face it's so emotional it's almost laughable.

Anyway, TOS rules the day for ST. just my humble opinion.

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[NullAshton]

I watched farscape during a marathon they had. Two whole weeks of back-to-back-to-back... They showed every epsiode, from 8:00 to 4:00, 8 hours of it every day. I missed a few, but most of them I watched...

Now, TNG? I've watched all of those. They show them every day, 3 times a day... so why not watch it? Some of the episodes are good.

[Sivran]

El_Phil said:
Well B5 did nick Checkov from TOS. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Whilst he was excellent, both the actor and character, I never really got over the shock. I always half expected Bester to start talking in bad Russian.

On a topic related note, I just saw DS9 'In The Pale Moonlight.' a few days ago. Damn me that is even better than I remember, possibly one of the best Trek episodes I've ever seen.



Isn't it funny how the poor bastard apparently never made it very far in Starfleet? In the final TOS movie, Sulu is captain of the brand-spankin-new Excelsior, and where's Chekov? Still at the helm of the aging Enterprise... Course, same could be said for Uhuru. Scotty and Bones didn't really have much place to go, but what about poor Pavel Chekov?

[Sivran]

Hunpecked said:
General Woundwort writes: "There was no fifth season. Trust me. It was a vile rumor. It never happened."

The term "fifth season" refers to that agonizingly prolonged anti-climax that followed the climactic fourth season.

Best line of the entire series, delivered by the recently resurrected Sheridan: "I was dead. I'm better now." Unfortunately, the show wasn't. Dead, I mean. Or better. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Second best part of the series: At the climax of the war, the pipsqueak humans tell the mighty Vorlons and Shadows, their superiors by millions of years, to "get the hell out of our galaxy!"--and they GO! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif

The best part of the series actually happened BEFORE the show started, apparently just so they could call it "Babylon 5" instead of "Babylon":

They said it was *daft* to build a space station in a swamp, but I showed them!
It sank unto the swamp. So I built a second space station. That sank into
the swamp too. My third space station sank into the swamp. So I built a fourth
one. That fell into a time warp and _then_ sank into the swamp. But the fifth
one... stayed up! --Monty Python/Babylon 5

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif




The 5th season of B5 would've been much better if UPN hadn't given jms the run-around. When it appeared to jms that B5 would be cancelled after the 4th season, he stuffed 5th season stuff into the 4th season, so the show could have some closure. This left little material for the 5th season when B5 was picked up by Sci-Fi.

Thus, blame B5's bad 5th season on UPN.

[Atrocities]

Season 5 of B5 was not ran on UPN, it was ran on TNT and it was TNT who gave them the shaft in scheduling.

[Randallw]

Isn't it funny how the poor bastard apparently never made it very far in Starfleet? In the final TOS movie, Sulu is captain of the brand-spankin-new Excelsior, and where's Chekov? Still at the helm of the aging Enterprise... Course, same could be said for Uhuru. Scotty and Bones didn't really have much place to go, but what about poor Pavel Chekov?



I once read that there was an idea running about once during TNG to have an episode where Chekov is discovered by the Enterprise. The idea was that he had been captured by an alien race and held prisoner since TOS. I don't know how they would handle his age, but the idea was that he would be bitter at the idea that the Federation had abandoned him to a POW camp.

[Fyron]

Atrocities said:
Season 5 of B5 was not ran on UPN, it was ran on TNT and it was TNT who gave them the shaft in scheduling.

And it was never aired on Sci Fi until reruns.

[Kamog]

Well, Chekov was first officer of the USS Reliant... until Khan took it over.

It's OK, he was much better being Bester.

[Atrocities]

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In a related note, SFI signed Malfador and will publish Space Empires Fury of the Star and Empires Star, V.

[Hunpecked]

Sivran writes: "Thus, blame B5's bad 5th season on UPN."

But who do I blame for the lame ending of the Shadow War in Season 4? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif If that was JMS's intent from the beginning, then bad, bad JMS! If he changed it to fit into Season 4, then bad on him again. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I discovered the show early in Season 3, and subsequently caught most of the early episodes in reruns. I got the impression there was a decent 3-season story hiding somewhere in those 5 seasons. Perhaps with a faster pace (three seasons) the ratings would have justified a "Bab 5 Reloaded" series at the end of the first, e.g. to cover the telepath war.

[Rasorow]

Sivran said:

El_Phil said:
Well B5 did nick Checkov from TOS. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Whilst he was excellent, both the actor and character, I never really got over the shock. I always half expected Bester to start talking in bad Russian.

On a topic related note, I just saw DS9 'In The Pale Moonlight.' a few days ago. Damn me that is even better than I remember, possibly one of the best Trek episodes I've ever seen.



Isn't it funny how the poor bastard apparently never made it very far in Starfleet? In the final TOS movie, Sulu is captain of the brand-spankin-new Excelsior, and where's Chekov? Still at the helm of the aging Enterprise... Course, same could be said for Uhuru. Scotty and Bones didn't really have much place to go, but what about poor Pavel Chekov?



If I remember correctly... Bones became the head of Starfleet Medical... not bad for a country doctor.

Uhura and Checkov were both Senior Academy instructors as mentioned in the later movies.

While Scotty wrote just about every techincal manual and engineering spec on ships and components created in his time (From TNG episode).

So you cannot say that any of them did poorly. Each rose to the top of their area.

Rasorow

[gregebowman]

Although Next Gen ran longer and had better stories most of the time, I grew up watching TOS and will always identify with that show. You got to love Kirk and Spock teaming up to save the galaxy, and Spock and McCoy sniping at each other. And let's not forget Scotty.