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geoschmo
August 19th, 2006, 12:38 AM
Best Stargate episode EVER.

Strike that, best sci-fi show ever.

Strike that. BEST TELEVISION SHOW OF ALL TIME.

Watch this show. Even if you've never seen an episode of Stargate, watch this show.

If you like sci-fi, and if you don't you probably wouldn't be here, you have to watch this freaking show!!!

But make sure you use the restroom before you watch it. You might laugh so hard you'll wet yourself.

Renegade 13
August 19th, 2006, 01:30 AM
Ooohh. Sounds like I'll have to download this one http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

I'm happy to hear it's a great episode, as from what I've read Stargate's ratings have taken a big of a downhill slide since the beginning of the season; perhaps this episode will help bring the fans in again. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Ragnarok-X
August 19th, 2006, 06:22 AM
What episode exactly are you referring to ? I just finished downloading Emancipation and Progeny I. Which one is it ?

geoschmo
August 19th, 2006, 09:17 AM
It's the 200th episode that premiered last night. The episode is called "200" coincidentally enough. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Xrati
August 19th, 2006, 09:59 AM
I was rolling on the floor when they did the 'supermarination' (puppets) spoof. Especially when Hammond goes "make it spin" then he later says "I'm the general and I want it to spin." I just lost it! I thought I might have to change my drawers. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Caduceus
August 19th, 2006, 10:13 AM
Taped it, looking forward to seeing it.

Randallw
August 19th, 2006, 10:17 AM
Speaking as someone who hasn't seen it and most likely won't for a year maybe two I have to say I beg to differ. I've seen some pictures. Teal'c with an open front jacket and Mitchell wearing a ridiculous jacket, SG1 skipping about as Dorothy and Co. I read the synopsis and it's not my thing. Ok I get the idea, they are poking fun at themselves but I don't find tongue in cheek humour funny and when they crack jokes on episodes I just wish they'd get on with things. I have an understanding other people see things differently and that's ok but I have to be the voice of disent. For anyone wanting to see it due to the praise here just keep in mind I think people say it's great because it's funny or something. For me great would be a half hour battle against the Ori with complete CGI.

Again, I haven't seen it and I read there's some sort of revelation at the end. Perhaps I would think differently when I see that bit. I hear the Furlings turn up, but then again the synopsis says the supposedly funny hollywood version has them so perhaps they don't really turn up.

Starhawk
August 19th, 2006, 01:32 PM
Bah! They did the Dorothy skit for five seconds http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

And the open jacket and stuff was spoofing Farscape you farbot! (seriously that too was an excellent show with a great sense of humor and drama and fun all at the same time) and it is BTW the way Ben Browder and Claudia black BOTH got their starts in American TV, and Valla and Mitchell are (Black, and Browder) respectively so it was hilarious that they poked fun at where those two got their start.

Well other then the first EP with Valla where she actually brandishes a Peacekeeper pistol http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

geoschmo
August 19th, 2006, 02:34 PM
All of the spoof stuff made perfect sense in the context of the show, and it's a riot. It's some of the funniest, and cleverest tv I've seen in a very long time. Just more evidence that Stargate is the smartest, best written sci-fi show ever. I've got this one saved on my DVR and I'm going to have to watch it a few more times before deleting it.

Atrocities
August 19th, 2006, 04:29 PM
I really didn't like it that much say for the last 30 seconds. I got the whole show but just felt that it was a jump the shark spoof and really would have liked to have seen what they could have done with the show if they had been a bit more serious and had more time. While it had a lot of shots and scenes that just set the hair up on the back of your neck, over all it was kinda disappointing. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif But still, we got to see Jack again and that was well worth it.

Renegade 13
August 19th, 2006, 06:12 PM
Supposedly he's going to be in a few more episodes this season as well.

Caduceus
August 19th, 2006, 08:09 PM
O'Neill: I don't know what do do...
Carter: Are you kidding? You were on seven seasons of MacGuyver! We've got belt buckles, shoe laces, chewing gum. Make a nuclear bomb! You were Macguyver, MacGadget, MacGimmick! Now you're MacUseless!

From the SG-1 200 Retrospective show.

Atrocities
August 19th, 2006, 08:18 PM
That was hilarious! I wish they would have shown that one a lot sooner. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif He could have at least made a heater!

Azselendor
August 20th, 2006, 06:10 PM
I was fearing this episode too, but I thought it was a good romp in the end, and hey! We finally got to see the Furlings and why we never see them.

Will
August 20th, 2006, 06:49 PM
Ok, maybe I missed it, but when I... procured the episode... the scene with the "Furlings" was a movie sequence, when they were imagining what would happen, but that is not what they actually look like? I get the impression that contact with the Furlings will not be made until Earth humans become the "Fifth Race", which won't really happen in the series, I think.

LordAxel
August 20th, 2006, 10:57 PM
Not a bad episode. Personally not a favorite, these episodes always have a filler feel like they didnt have enough main plotline to fill out the season.
I will say it was funny though and was nice to have richard dean anderson back. The whole wedding spoof was pretty good

geoschmo
August 21st, 2006, 12:50 AM
Yes the bit with the "Furlings" was quite obviously a joke. But it shows how the writers really care about the fans of the show that they threw them in there.

I'm sure if and when we actually see the Furlings in the series they won't be Ewoks. I'm thinking Lucas might have something to say about it if they are. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Azselendor
August 21st, 2006, 03:48 AM
A part of this episode was to poke at the fans for various things. Furlings, problems with the SG1 movie, and how silly the actual premise is to poke the serious sg1 fanboys out there.

Caduceus
August 21st, 2006, 11:07 AM
Also liked the Asimov quote at the end.

gregebowman
August 21st, 2006, 07:15 PM
I'm surprise that Sci-Fi hasn't had a Stargate orgy lately. Come on, 4 or 5 episodes every Monday and Friday night? Please. But I'll probably try to catch this one. It looked interesting, and I'd like to see Richard Dean Anderson in the show. It probably won't make me a convert, but I do want to check it out.

Azselendor
August 22nd, 2006, 01:49 AM
There won't be anything like that, not for a while. SciFi Wire confirmed that SG1 has been cancelled at the end of the season. Atlantis continues, however.

narf poit chez BOOM
August 22nd, 2006, 02:03 AM
Oh, of course. It's popular, they have to cancel it.

Renegade 13
August 22nd, 2006, 02:14 AM
KlvinoHRGA said:
There won't be anything like that, not for a while. SciFi Wire confirmed that SG1 has been cancelled at the end of the season.

I recall reading a little bit ago that MGM has stated that they currently have no plans to kill SG-1.

Just how many times over the past 5 years have people said "Stargate's definitely going to be cancelled at the end of this season!" and yet it hasn't happened. Until it does happen (which I hope won't be for a long long time yet), I won't believe any report that doesn't come from MGM as to the status of SG-1.

Azselendor
August 22nd, 2006, 02:16 AM
SciFi has opted out of airing future seasons of the show, however MGM and Executive Producers did state they will shop the series around - but really, outside of scifi and other paramount-owned stations will consider it.

Renegade 13
August 22nd, 2006, 02:28 AM
Wow...hadn't read the SciFi Wire report before writing my last post. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/redface.gif

I sure hope Stargate gets picked up by another station/company. It's been, bar none, my favorite show on TV for almost as long as I've been watching TV. Hell, Stargate has been airing for over half my life!

It is entirely possibe that someone else will pick it up, even if that company isn't American. For example, it's possible that a channel up here in Canada, Space, who I think are owned by Bell Globemedia, will pick it up. It'd be right up their alley after all.

I guess all I can do is hope!

Atrocities
August 22nd, 2006, 03:04 AM
Sci-fi cannot afford Stargate and often only runs a series for only a couple of years. This might be the end of Stargate as we know it. NBC could aford to pick up SG and run it prime time but we all know how other scifi shows on NBC have been treated. Sindication is another option but lets face it, the sindication market isn't what it used to be back in the day of STNG.

MGM has a very marketable franchise, under marketed IMHO, no games, no collectables, no toys, just a show that could have made them a lot of money over the years under utitlized and now too expensive to produce.

Sallaries go up, cost go up, and series eventually become too expensive too make. This normally happens when their market share starts too fall, but in SG1's case their market share hasn't erroded over time, however the cost of producing the show, namily salaries, has increased to the point where it now takes more money per episode thus lowering profits for Sci-Fi network.

They are slating a feature film and will most likely make it so don't worry too much about it. If the film is successful, the will most likely make a return to tv. This according to a long Gate World report that I read a few months back.

Renegade 13
August 22nd, 2006, 03:45 AM
Alright...so rather than give in to the temptation to hunt down the morons who run the Sci Fi Channel and beat them to a bloody pulp with my handy, trusty tire iron, I think it's better to take a less violent, more results-oriented approach. So, if you want to see Stargate for a few more seasons, heres a few links for you:

Pretty much a "Keep Stargate Going!" petition:

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Stargate/index.html

To contact MGM, the company that owns the rights to Stargate, and encourage them to find a new station to pick up Stargate, follow this link:

http://www.mgm.com/help.do

To email a TV station up here in Canada, analogous the the Sci-Fi Channel in the States, to encourage them to look at taking over where Sci-Fi left off, send an email to:

space@spacecast.com




As evidenced by the above, I'm a massive fan...and I don't want it to die http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

It's a sad day when intelligent programming, such as Stargate, can be cancelled, when a plethora of "reality" TV shows, wrestling shows, etc etc ad nauseum can spring up and succeed. It just goes to show that the average television viewing person is not prepared to use their mind even slightly when they turn on their TV. It seems they'd rather just empty their minds and drool senselessly as they're spoonfed worthless trash over and over again.

Black_Knyght
August 22nd, 2006, 06:02 AM
Renegade 13 said:
"...give in to the temptation to hunt down the morons who run the Sci Fi Channel and beat them to a bloody pulp with my handy, trusty tire iron..."




Oh, I think this IS a perfectly good idea when considering how to respond to anyone who cancels the series.

It's been one of the very few fun, entertaining, interesting, and - occasionally - even educational Sci-Fi shows to comw around for quite some time.

Caduceus
August 22nd, 2006, 10:19 AM
"All good things must come to an end."

narf poit chez BOOM
August 22nd, 2006, 04:23 PM
"Why?"

Renegade 13
August 22nd, 2006, 04:25 PM
My question exactly.

Atrocities
August 22nd, 2006, 07:25 PM
Caduceus said:
"All good things must come to an end."



Its not that they must, its that they just do. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

geoschmo
August 22nd, 2006, 10:20 PM
My recollection, and perhaps it's flawed, is that MGM never intended to continue SG-1 past season 8. They only wanted the one series, Atlantis. They were going to have the big whopping battle over the arctic, kill off Anubis, Hammond and O'niell would retire to do some fly fishing, Daniel would stay ascended and Carter would head off to run the Atlantis expedition. SciFi channel was apparently the one that cajoled them into doing another couple seasons of both shows.

To be honest there have been times when the two shows have been a little akward. It might have been better if they had just commited to one. If it meant we wouldn't have had to slog throgh this Ori storyline, I almost wouldn't have minded.

Atrocities
August 26th, 2006, 05:06 AM
SG-1 has struggled in the ratings all summer, with the record-breaking tenth season premiering with a 1.4 household rating -- down more than 20 percent from last season's average. After a brief climb to a 1.6 in its second week, the show fell to a 1.3 in week four.



Um it has been struggling? WTF, your running new episodes on FRIDAY NIGHTS in the middle of SUMMER..... FOR GODS SAKE FIGURE IT OUT YOU F**KING MORONS! Who the hell is going to stay home on an hot Friday night during summer? WTF! How f**king stupid are they at Sci-Fi? I mean Jesus Christ you f**king morons! I sware to God, each time I see some really stupid movie on Sci-fi, such seems to be the norm as of late, and then read that they cancelle a solid show I want to drive to their HQ and bomb it! (Figuratively speaking.. pass a really big fart in the building and stink the place up... wink)

Its like this, your trying to sell ice cream in the middle of winter at midnight. Who the hell is going to buy your ice cream in the middle of winter, at midnight? Not a lot of folks. Now if you try and sell that same ice cream during summer say at around 7pm, well then your going to sell a lot of it.

Stargate is NOT ice cream.... sure its great, but come on! Running new episodes in the middle of summer is like trying to sell Ice Cream in the middle of winter.... for crying out loud what kind of dumb f**kes to they have working at Sci-Fi?

Suicide Junkie
August 26th, 2006, 09:34 AM
There needs to be a "timeslot factor"... multiply by N for crappy timeslots to indicate how well they'd do in "primetime" slots.

Renegade 13
August 26th, 2006, 02:44 PM
Even with the crap timeslot, the 200th episode had a 1.9 rating...higher than last season's average of 1.8.

That just emphasizes how stupid Sci Fi is. Actually, I don't think they cancelled Stargate due to ratings. From what I've read, it has been Sci-Fi's #4 show in the ratings all year, which isn't bad. My personal theory is that they want to get away from the science fiction genre and concentrate on the ratings-heavy and cheap shows like "reality" TV and wrestling shows. I bet within a couple years, Sci Fi is no longer Sci Fi.

NullAshton
August 26th, 2006, 03:00 PM
So... The science fiction channel cancelled Stargate because they wanted to stop showing science fiction shows?

Wha?

Atrocities
August 26th, 2006, 03:30 PM
Have any of you seen some of the low brow, low quality, absolutly stupid movies they have funded and aired recently? Carnavor Planet... (?) not sure if thats the name, but it was certainly one stupid movie. And they have been airning a lot of stupid movies.

To be honest, I have seen better sci-fi writing come out of this forum than I have seen sci-fi stories come from the Sci-fi Channel.

Renegade 13
August 26th, 2006, 04:16 PM
NullAshton said:
So... The science fiction channel cancelled Stargate because they wanted to stop showing science fiction shows?

Wha?

Does this not make sense?

NullAshton
August 26th, 2006, 04:28 PM
Makes perfect sense. A channel which has the abbreviation for Science Fiction in it's name is moving away from Science Fiction.

Shouldn't they at least change the name of the channel to Reality Channel, at least? Or the "Real" Channel?

Wade
August 26th, 2006, 05:06 PM
Remember when MTV meant Music Television? Look at the nonesense it is now; for the shallow teenagers. Like mentioned, it can be relabeled "Reality Channel" although there is nothing real about it. People are not real when there are known cameras watching. I hate all that ignorance.
SciFi Channel is sliding towards this.

narf poit chez BOOM
August 26th, 2006, 08:04 PM
I blame music in movies for a number of stupid movies.

Why? Becuase when you have music, your actors don't have to work to show which are important scenes, to convey emotion to the viewer, to give a sense of life to the movie.

Just play the appropriate music and instant atmosphere. A lot of older movies are both very good, very nuanced and have no music.

How nuanced are modern movies?

NullAshton
August 26th, 2006, 08:31 PM
Stargate was good with not relying on music. Stargate kind of counts, since it's in widescreen and has the 'feel' of a movie.

Atrocities
August 27th, 2006, 11:07 AM
Man I was pissed when I wrote that post. To be honest I am still a bit upset over how f***ing dumb those idiots over at Sci-Fi channel appear to be. You don't drop your #4 rated show and replace it with crappy double "D" back yard, lets break out the video camera, movies!

Hell my nephews could make better movies than some that have recently been on Sci-Fi.

No effort at all is going into the movies, horrible production values, bad acting, rotten scripts, even worse dialog. Its like a Lucas script feast without the budge or SFX, or Steven Spielburg's (sp) to back them up.

Xrati
August 27th, 2006, 11:47 AM
Lack of compitition drives most companies to believe that they can do whatever they want. Thus the Sci-Fi channels competitor is?????

WELL, what do you know! There is none! Who'd of Thunk it.....

Babylon 5 follow up shows would still be on the air if they (studio management) just left M.J.S. alone and let him do what he needed to do. They played the 'Ranger' series out of order because they didn't like the way the opening story was (not exciting enough). The man wrote one of the best Sci-Fi series and he didn't know what he was doing? (as AT would say "that's F'd UP!) Now you know why SG-1 is going bye bye. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif

Atrocities
August 27th, 2006, 04:16 PM
Thus the Sci-Fi channels competitor is

Cable access I would say. No, the home made movies on Cable Access even have a better production value than those on Sci-Fi.

Azselendor
August 27th, 2006, 10:46 PM
SciFi channel made it clear that MGM's license fees was one of the main deciding factors on cancellation - much like how UPN would've cancelled Enterprise in the 3rd and 4th seasons.

Also, SciFi has made it clear that they will use their contract with MGM to prevent any future Stargate SG1 television series.

Atrocities
August 28th, 2006, 02:11 AM
I would like to see Sci-Fi try and go up against MGM.. That would be so funny.

AMF
August 28th, 2006, 08:14 AM
OK, so...is Stargate SG-1 really that good a show? I mean, it looks like it's another one of those adventure shows with a bunch of people hopping into new worlds and having new adventures but they characters are all one-dimensional, the women are weak, the men are strong, no one ever dies, everyone on the goog guy team really is a good guy, the aliens are really just humans with different skin, and there is ultimately no depth or edge to the show....etc...?

In other words...is it vanilla like Star Trek, or like Quantum Leap?

Battlestar Galactica was a phenomenal show, exactly because it wasn't like the above, and I have been interested in finding another show just as good - but I look over the SG stuff, and it looks to me like it's just a bit too clean and nice and traditional utopian sort of sci-fi.

Is it?

Just curious.

Thanks!

AMF

Atrocities
August 28th, 2006, 08:49 AM
While the show may have lost its hard core ruggedness and its on the edge film quality appeal, replaced by hi-definition video, shorter episodes, and a sense of "where the hell are we going with this" feel, overall the show is still good and I like it.

Albeit I am not a huge fan of the current story arch, the Ori, I think its better than the alternative, cloned Baals and renagade Jaffa. Lets face it, they Trek'ed themselves in that they created technology that now takes the thrill of living on the edge away from the game. Sure its cool that Earth has space ships now, but lets face it, they lost focus of the fundamental goal of the show, the stargate. Now the show seems more like fargate and while that is not all bad, more good than bad anyways, I do miss RDA and the harder more original feel that he brought to the show. While Ben is a good actor, he is no RDA.

Sci-Fi should be bankrupted for playing games with MGM. I miss my old SG1, replaced by SG Command, and while I will continue to watch, because it is great sci-fi, I cannot help but feel that by having the show on sci-fi, too many compermises were made and it shows.

Caduceus
August 28th, 2006, 11:36 AM
I have been watching SG-1 since about season 2 or 3 and have seen most of the episodes.

I enjoy the show, but it is somewhat trite - i.e. Trek-like - in that at the resolution of every episode we're back to square one. Everyone is alive and we're ready for next week.

The Richard Dean Anderson years were fun, but not substantially different than what we're seeing now. A story-line which moves throughout a season is the direction most shows are going. I'm not wild about the Ori, but it will be a good "capper" for the show, I think.

There's only so many "let's go through the gate from Earth while everyone is unaware of our existence" episodes you can do.

The costs of the show - MGM and probably the cast's requirements - are getting prohibitive. The show can't stand to lose Tealc, Carter, or Jackson, so they have the bargaining power in that situation.

gregebowman
August 28th, 2006, 07:54 PM
Well, if Devlin and his partner hadn't sold the rights to Stargate and was unable to do the trilogy they had wanted to do, maybe all this would be a mute point. That's one reason I don't watch the show. Now, after the 8th or 9th season, I have no idea of what's going on so I could care less.

Speaking of Sci-fi in general, it's obvious the firm is run by suits and not a single one of them were ever a geek, nerd or trekkie. They wouldn't know what real sci-fi is if it hit them in the face. I mean, come on, no matter what the relationship with USA is, you can't be serious when you have ECW wrestling on a supposedly science fiction related show. And what's with all of these reality shows like Ghost Hunters? That's no sci-fi, or even fiction. I wish someone like Bill Gates or Steven Spielberg would buy the company and make a decent job of it. And looking at the tv guide for this week, they have the audacity to play Galactica 1980, the worse ever sequel of a tv show that ever was. Please, someone send them a clue!

Caduceus
August 28th, 2006, 09:22 PM
Reruns of "classic" (ahem) shows are cheap, grege, that's all

And it ties in loosely to the new BSG in the hopes to draw in Sci-Fi viewers who have night jobs.

Atrocities
August 28th, 2006, 10:27 PM
Greg, O'neil was promoted to General and put in charge of something, same with Hamond. The Jaffa have formed their own government which has twice now resulted in disaster for the Jaffa Nation. Dr. Jackson while playing around with an ancient device accidently discovered the Ori, who until Dr. Jacksons accident, didn't know our galaxy exsisted. They are now invading our Galaxy in order to convert everyone to the Ori religon. The Ori are assended beings who are at war with the Ancients. The Ancients won't help humanity defend against the Ori so we are on our own.

In the mean time, through ancient writings Dr. Jackson was able to find the lost ancient city of Atlantas and an expodisiton was sent there. It is in another galaxy filled with life sucking monsters called the Wraith.

The Replicators have been defeated, or so we think, the Gauld are gone say for a bunch of Baal Clones, and there is a pirate group running around the galaxy running a black market and doing criminal things.

Earth now has a fleet of space warships, two of which have been destoryed, one is assigned to Atlantas.

Well thats about it.

Renegade 13
August 28th, 2006, 10:38 PM
Well, with the destruction of the Prometheus and the Korolev, the "fleet" is down to one; the Odyssey

LordAxel
August 29th, 2006, 12:28 AM
Def not a fan of the ori thing. Apperantly they are still trying to find a home for sg-1. I really doubt atlantis can stand on its own without sg-1 as the sg-1 line is quasi interlocked with atlantis. Plus the costs will now likely rise for the atlantis production as its on its own not sharing the lot with sg-1

Will
August 29th, 2006, 12:29 AM
My take on the cancelation: it's ok. SG-1 jumped the shark a while ago. You could debate the moment when that happened, but you would have a hard time convincing me that it hasn't. So, it took what, 8 seasons to turn the threat of Gou'ld invasion into a basically non-issue, do you really want to repeat the same process for Ori? And where do you go after that? The time has come, I think, for it to end.

I think the entire model of the show is just about done, as well, so Atlantis will probably only last a few more seasons. Like alarikf said, it's very much in the Star Trek and Quantum Leap models. While it can be good, there comes a point when you've already tried out a bunch of different places, and anything else you do will end up seeming like a contrived re-hashing of previous episodes.

Where sci-fi in general is going, I think, is away from shows in the Star Trek mold, where everything is "perfect", and nobody really has personal problems from episode to episode beyond the obligatory romantic/sexual tension, and replaced with stories like Babylon 5 or the new Battlestar Galactica, where there are humanized characters with actual problems like addiction, depression, long-running feuds in the forefront of the story, "good" characters doing "evil" things, "evil" characters taking the high road and doing "good" things, etc. In other words, shift the focus of the story to characters with a scifi background, instead of a scifi environment populated by relatively flat characters.

Atrocities
August 29th, 2006, 12:45 AM
Renegade 13 said:
Well, with the destruction of the Prometheus and the Korolev, the "fleet" is down to one; the Odyssey



Um, no, they have two ships, the Odyssey and one other. Not sure what the ships name is.

edit the name is the Daedalus and the Odyssey. With two more coming soon. Not sure of their names yet. Probably TARGET, and SHOOT ME.

Atrocities
August 29th, 2006, 12:51 AM
http://www.savestargatesg1.com/

Azselendor
August 29th, 2006, 12:54 AM
Daedalus (spelling?) is the other one.

And will is right, SG1 going isn't a bad thing. SG1 represents the Star Trek TNG/Voyager era of science fiction. If I put a point on where it jumpd the shark, It would have to be with prometheus's first flight.

The best way to wrap up the Ori storyline is to hand the Ori a huge setback for 20-30 years and allow a future series of movie resolve it.

Renegade 13
August 29th, 2006, 02:28 AM
Atrocities said:
Um, no, they have two ships, the Odyssey and one other. Not sure what the ships name is.

edit the name is the Daedalus and the Odyssey. With two more coming soon. Not sure of their names yet. Probably TARGET, and SHOOT ME.

Oops. You are indeed correct.

Renegade 13
August 29th, 2006, 03:03 AM
I must say I completely disagree that the time has come for SG-1 to end. Stargate is, in my opinion, the best sci-fi on TV, anywhere. It has grown, it has matured over these past 10 seasons, but is still engrossing in a way that other shows simply can not match. It's not just science-fiction; it has aspects of drama, comedy, and many other things that combine into one spectacular whole that has stood, unmatched, for 10 years.

I for one hope it continues, since even if the quality isn't quite as good as it used to be (a fact I am not willing to concede), it is still the best sci-fi to be found.

Daynarr
August 29th, 2006, 04:12 AM
I hope they finally start showing that series in my own country. It like they specifically don't buy quality shows.
At least they played all seasons of DS9.

narf poit chez BOOM
August 29th, 2006, 05:38 AM
I think there is a place for utopian fiction, too. I like the thought that we can eventually have a truely noble society that lasts.

Sure, we don't have one now, but that's no reason not to dream. The death of dreams is one of the things I truely fear. And that is something that the desire for darker shows only can bring about.

Atrocities
August 29th, 2006, 02:03 PM
SG 1 jumped the shark with episode 200. And they did it dilibratly. WTF?

Renegade 13
August 29th, 2006, 03:03 PM
From what I've gathered, 200 was intentionally poking fun at itself, which is a good thing. You need to have a sense of humor, and the fact that they still have it shows that they haven't taken themselves too seriously.

Atrocities
August 29th, 2006, 05:00 PM
No, they said it was their jump the shark episode.

Renegade 13
August 29th, 2006, 05:14 PM
Where was this said?

Will
August 29th, 2006, 05:39 PM
Differences of opinion, then. All I know is that for me, any of the episodes that I happened upon in the past three or so years hasn't really been that great. I can feel the writers streching for new ways to dress up the same old stories, and when I saw the 200 episode (after this thread popped up, and I "found" a copy), I saw that the writers were aware of it too. A lot of the things they poked fun at are legitimate weaknesses in the show; the one that stands out the most clearly is the Team America parody, where they outline the stereotypical SG-1 team throughout every episode, where a "missing" character is replaced with a carbon-copy (smart-*** military guy outside typical command chain, all-American girl science genius, nerdy cultural expert, and strong, silent muscle). And you can only do so much with that before it gets to the point of you know what's going to happen in the episode just from the first five minutes.

Really, it would have been better if Daniel went to Atlantis at the start of the spin-off, and the SG-1 series just died, with occaisional references in the new series.

Atrocities
August 29th, 2006, 07:20 PM
They had an preview show on sci-fi channel before the episode aired where one of the producers, or both, said that they considered this 200th episode to be their "jump the shark" episode. 'So why not just go for it' was their logic behind the episode.

Spectarofdeath
August 30th, 2006, 12:26 AM
It's such a damn shame. IMO it's a great show, I wasn't a very big fan of the movie but when the series first started I got hooked onto it. Now, I might agree it MIGHT be time to kill the show...IF they were going to replace it with something HALFWAY DECENT and thats acutally SCIENCE FICTION. But, seeing as how these companies operate these days it will probably be a stupid *** reality show, maybe, "Survivor: Locked inside a shuttle" or some jackass mentally retarded thing like that. And I'm sorry if your a fan of reality TV but come on, how much reality is it when your competing for a million dollars and you have camera's on you? There isn't enough actually decent shows on TV anymore, it's all becoming reality...guess what, if I wanted REAL REALITY I would just turn the tv and pc off and go mow the damn grass.

Azselendor
September 1st, 2006, 12:21 AM
the producers intentionally jumped the shark with episode 200 to end, for once and for all, all the fanboy ranting of which episode jumped the shark.

But you know what, if SG1 makes a successful movie run, it could lead to a huge revival of the show.

Atrocities
September 1st, 2006, 01:05 AM
Go Stargate GO! I would spend $10.00 to see another Stargate movie. Hell they should get Kurt Russel to do a reoccuring role in either SG1 or Atlantis. That would draw in some ratings.

Caduceus
September 1st, 2006, 10:10 AM
At the very least, enjoy the end of the season.

Then whatever comes, comes.

I *did* enjoy the most recent Atlantis episode with Sheppard and the Wraith in "Common Ground".

Caduceus
September 1st, 2006, 12:00 PM
From TV Guide 9/4-10/06:


There could be good news for Stargate:SG-1 fans. Though SciFi channel has cancelled the venerable space opera, a spokesman for MGM, the sudio behind the franchise, says it's eager to make TV-movies based on the show. And executive producer Brad Wright tells TV Guide that he hopes for a long-anticipated feature film will become reality. There's also talk of another Stargate spin-off series. As for SciFi, it says it hasn't closed its doors either. "If there are other ways to explore this world, we're certainly open to it," says Mark Stern, the channel's original programming exec. "This is not the end of our journey with Stargate by any means.

Azselendor
September 1st, 2006, 11:57 PM
Kurt Russel's character has been a running joke on sg1.

"I'm Jack O'Neill. Two "L's". There's another Jack O'Neil with only one "L" and he doesn't have a sense of humor."

The original producers want to pursue a competing stargate frandchise as well, but MGM doesn't seem as interested in that as much. But who knows, MGM seems to be very open to scifi frandchises at the moment.

btw, sg1 could never return to Showtime. Showtime demands more full-frontal nudity -- something SG1 never really provided for the first 5 season intentionally.

gregebowman
September 13th, 2006, 07:23 PM
I would love to see the original cast members from the movie make another movie, if it's at all legally, production-wise, fiscally possible. That's when I might start watching Stargate again. Remember, when the series first came out, it was one of those Showtime only shows, so that's another reason I couldn't warm up to it. I didn't have Showtime, and therefore couldn't watch it. maybe if I did have Showtime back then, my feelings about the series would be different.

Ragnarok
September 14th, 2006, 11:49 AM
"Can you make it spin? ... ... I'm the general and I want it to spin!"

The above is a quote from the 200th episode.

Atrocities
September 14th, 2006, 12:24 PM
I think the new enemy in Stargate should be a force like the peacekeepers or even zombies like from Army of Darkness.

I would love to hear O'niell say "This is my boom sick!" Or Cater "well that was just pillow talk baby." Have Tel'c say "You left your back door wide open on that one guys." And Daniel say "Klaatu barada nikto"

Renegade 13
December 11th, 2006, 09:38 PM
I only just recently got to see this episode, and I must say it lived up to expectations. It was hilarious! I especially liked the younger "edgier" versions of the team http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif That sequence was great. Oh, and "Teal'c, PI" was awesome http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[O'Neill's invisible in a fictional episode. Carter's taking a shower.]
Maj. Carter: Sir? Are you there?
[Long pause]
Col. O'Neill: Nope.

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Col. O'Neill: The bottom line is, I can do more for this planet invisible than I ever could as my own sweet salient self.
[Pause]
Teal'c: I assume I am staring at you stoically.
Col O'Neill: Not buying it, eh?
Teal'c: You are most transparent, O'Neill.
Col O'Neill: Ohh! I get it. Good one.
Teal'c: I can see right through you.
Col. O'Neill: Don't push it...

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[Teal'c pitches a story to Martin Lloyd]
Announcer: When it comes to fighting crime, there's only one man keepin' the street safe, while keepin' it real.
[Teal'c, dressed in a trenchcoat and fedora, pitches a guy through a glass door. He strokes the brim of his hat]
Teal'c: In-deed.
Announcer: Teal'c PI, coming this fall.

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[The Stargate is overloading with power.]
Lt. Col. Carter: Siler, manually cut the power!
[Siler tries to and is thrown across the Gate room.]
Sgt. Siler: Why does this always happen to me?

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[O'Neill and Jackson are waiting at an altar, O'Neill as the groom and Jackson as the best man]
Dr. Jackson: You know, if she doesn't show, people are going to think that…you and I are…
Gen. O'Neill: What?

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[Teenage Teal'c is kissing an alien woman, teenage O'Neill comes in and shoots her]
Teenage Teal'c: Yo man, what'd you do that for?
Teenage O'Neill: Dude, that chick was totally a Goa'uld.
Teenage Teal'c: Well, yeah, but I was still gonna tap that!