Screenies!

[Endoperez]

Endoperez said:There are nations that have only one or two national spells such as Ulm. There might be some without any national spells, and there are few that are now the only ones capable of casting certain spells that were previously available to every one. As an example, Illwinter is restricted to Niefelheim/Jotunheim/Utgård. So, all nations don't have new national spells.




Nerfix said:
How come you know so much?




Kristoffer O said:
He was in the beta http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif





Nerfix said:
Then I should bugger him to show us screenies.




http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/442433-temp.gif

Happy?
Please note that the background was added in GIMP, and isn't official Dom3 background.

[Nerfix]

Nice! But what's up with the astral symbols?

Oh, and MORE!

Show Caelumian stuff next. Or maybe Dreamlands R'lyeah...or..or...the evocation tree. Ah, anything will do!

[Endoperez]

Nerfix said:
Nice! But what's up with the astral symbols?


Seems I made a mistake with that Gimp. Oh well.


Oh, and MORE!

Show Caelumian stuff next. Or maybe Dreamlands R'lyeah...or..or...the evocation tree. Ah, anything will do!



All right. Something Caelumian it is, then.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/442441-temp.jpg

[Endoperez]

And another:
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/442442-temp.jpg

[Nerfix]

Interesting, Caelum, err, Spire Horn gets shock resistance. Fitting though.

R'lyeh next?

Oh, and thanks for the pictures. I forgot to thank you on the first time around.

[Endoperez]

Nerfix said:
Interesting, Caelum gets shocck resistance. Fitting though.



It's resistance, and it's on one of the three tribes. They are only resistant against cold, though, and thus don't have any immunities.



R'lyeh next?



An insatiable thirst for forbidden knowledge? I know what I want to show, but I'll have to work a bit to get a proper screenshot. It will have something to do with the new insanity mechanic. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Nerfix]

Yes! Forbidden knowledge! Gimmie!

Thank you very much Endo.

[Endoperez]

Sorry, it seems I can't get a picture showing just what is happening. I'd have to show the commanders themselves, and the strategic view of what they are doing, and the unit view of the units that have appeared. I'll give you a description, instead.

I made a simple test with R'lyeh Dreamlands. I went through it a bit too quickly, and had Ghost King with Dominion of 1... Any way, I prophetized a commander and set him to preach, and waited. After about 10 turns, I have:

Snireth Co, a Cultist with S1H1
Antu, a cultist with H1
25 Atlantian/Mermen Dreamers. They are insane, fight with daggers, and have good magic res and morale. They dream and dream, never sure of what is real, so they are rarely afraid of things like fights or death.
12 creatures from void. In this case, 8 Lesser Othernesses and 4 Vile Things. Some appeared on their own, and I think a cultist summoned some.
24 Madmen (Atlantians and Mermen). They are mindless, insane, and need magical leadership.

The two cultists are insane, too. I never gave orders except for the prophet, but the two cultists have searched my capital for sites a few times, one of them was on "Call God" for a few turns (my Ghost King was just next to him, but hey, he's insane), one of them researched magic for a while (but he wasn't a mage, so it didn't help), and one of them entered the Void Gate for a few turns but I don't know if anything happened (except that he was eaten by a common Size 6 horror on the last turn), etc.

Enemy commanders also go insane in R'lyeh Dreamlands dominion. They might prech (perhaps even if they aren't priests?) Dreamlands dominion, they might get this strange command called "Fhtagn", they might defend the area and not take any other orders, they might study the stars, etc etc.

This was with only my capital. Few provinces here and there, and R'lyeh gets armies of insane or just plain mad creatures, and insane commanders that will usually lead them but might also look at the pretty flowers (or algea, or whatever) if they happen to want to do that.

[Ballbarian]

Dreamlands sounds like a lot of fun (and potential frustration). http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[Nerfix]

Sounds very, very cool. I especially love the randomness of the insane commanders, and the "Fhtagn". http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Hmmm, Endo, do you know if it would be possible to mod the Void Gate to be above ground..?

[Endoperez]

Nerfix said:
Sounds very, very cool. I especially love the randomness of the insane commanders, and the "Fhtagn". http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Hmmm, Endo, do you know if it would be possible to mod the Void Gate to be above ground..?



I have never tested it, but I'd expect underwater sites could appear on ground. The aquatic Void spawn would drown the moment they are summoned, of course.

Isn't there a random site which acts as a Void Gate? I don't think I've ever found it myself, but I seem to remember reading about it. House Of Strange Lights? Strange House on a Hill?

[DominionsFan]

Endoperez said:

Nerfix said:
Sounds very, very cool. I especially love the randomness of the insane commanders, and the "Fhtagn". http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Hmmm, Endo, do you know if it would be possible to mod the Void Gate to be above ground..?



I have never tested it, but I'd expect underwater sites could appear on ground. The aquatic Void spawn would drown the moment they are summoned, of course.

Isn't there a random site which acts as a Void Gate? I don't think I've ever found it myself, but I seem to remember reading about it. House Of Strange Lights? Strange House on a Hill?



Yes, there is a special site what acts like a void gate if I remember correctly, however I've never found it in my MP games.
Btw Endoperez, which one is the strongest Doms 3. creature what can be summoned? [According to your opinion] Can you post a screenshot about it if you can? I would like to see the spell itself and the monster if it is possible. Thanks in advance. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

[Sindai]

Oh. My. God. (Great lord Cthulu.)

That is the coolest game mechanic ever.

[Endoperez]

DominionsFAN said:Btw Endoperez, which one is the strongest Doms 3. creature what can be summoned? [According to your opinion] Can you post a screenshot about it if you can? I would like to see the spell itself and the monster if it is possible. Thanks in advance. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif



I can't. I don't know enough. I could go for most expensive high-level summon, but Iron Dragons, Tarrasques, etc aren't exactly exiting.

The most powerful creatures are probably the new horrors. I'll show you a special ability of one of them. This particular power is from one of Umor's three forms. Umor is the Eater of Gods.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/442543-temp.gif

Needless to say, Umor has pretty impressive magic resistance, and quite an array of abilities.

[JaydedOne]

Vote for more R'lyeh Dreamlands screenies here as well. Lovecraft = teh good. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

*sigh* What I'd give for a review copy.

[Endoperez]

A heretic has recently spread lies about the self-chosen martyrs of Caelum, the noble warriors who gave up their freedom. Kneel before the faith that has willfully chosen the wingless existence of a Temple Guard!

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/442552-temp.jpg

[Nerfix]

YAY! That temple guard looks SO much better!

[Endoperez]

JaydedOne said:
Vote for more R'lyeh Dreamlands screenies here as well. Lovecraft = teh good. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

*sigh* What I'd give for a review copy.



Hmm, Lovecraft. I'll give you a glimpse of Lovecraft all right. It won't be exactly what you expect, but... revelations... are never simple. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/firedevil.gif

[Nerfix]

Endo, if you ever wind up visiting Hyvinkää I'll offer you a sacrificial goat. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Endoperez]

Ladies, Gentlemen and unidentifiable monsters, let me present you to a living, breathing Deep One! From the deepest gorges, from the bottom of the largest sea, from their great city of basalt, this rare visitor has arrived to, err, dine. Any volunteers?

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/442558-temp.jpg




Nerfix, it's not a goat, and it's not for me. IIRC, Illwinter accepts orders in sacrificial virgins. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif
EDIT: Was Goat Sun already present in Dom2, or is he new? I'm not very familiar with the infernal lords.

[Nerfix]

Is that a R'lyeh unit? It looks great. Awesome.

Endo, but can't I do any favours for a dedicated fellow fan? And sacrificing virgins is illegal.

[quantum_mechani]

Endoperez said:

EDIT: Was Goat Sun already present in Dom2, or is he new? I'm not very familiar with the infernal lords.

It's new.

[Endoperez]

Nerfix said:
Is that a R'lyeh unit? It looks great. Awesome.

Endo, but can't I do any favours for a dedicated fellow fan? And sacrificing virgins is illegal.



It's an Early Age Atlantis unit.

Also, I'm afraid I'll have to stop answering all your questions and image requests and try and give others some chances as well. Not that I'm worried that you'll start to stalk me or sacrifice goats on my lawn or anything, you know, but... let's call it "a strategy preemptive decisions" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[okiN]

I'd like to know a little more about Jomon. What can you share?

[Endoperez]

okiN said:
I'd like to know a little more about Jomon. What can you share?



During one of my picture-hunting games, a Ninja tried to assassinate my commander. A picture of something else coming in a moment.

Here, you see a masterpiece of sword-forging. Samurai aren't really that exceptional, but their smiths sure know how to use those resources:

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/442575-temp.jpg

[quantum_mechani]

okiN said:
I'd like to know a little more about Jomon. What can you share?

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/7959/ninjahf4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

EDIT: Hmm, it seems ninjas were the first thing that came to mind for both of us. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Nerfix]

Ninjas!

But what does a ninja do with a chainmail?

[Endoperez]

Also, the mages of Jomon have most interesting randoms, which is clearly influenced by the Way of the Five Elements, a type of magic originating from Tien Chi. Their two more powerful mages both have these randoms in addition to Master Shugenja's E1N1 and Onmyo-Ji's S2.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/442580-temp.jpg

[Caduceus]

Nice. Thanks for all the hard work, Endoperez.

[Endoperez]

Caduceus said:
Nice. Thanks for all the hard work, Endoperez.



Actually, it's quite simple. In my mouse, one of the extra buttons is keyed as 'Enter'. I start up Dom3. New game, then clickclickclick to choose the map, era, nation in that order, then enterenterenter to get past pretender design, game settings, something, and to get to the game. It's much faster to start a new game now. It's REALLY nice for things like these.

[Caduceus]

No, you see you were supposed to gripe and moan about how much time you were putting into this, that you hadn't bathed in days and the police had come to the door looking for the dead body.

[Evil Dave]

Caduceus said:
Nice. Thanks for all the hard work, Endoperez.



Indeed! Thank you, Endoperez! If I didn't have work I need to do I'd now be having frothing fits waiting get a copy of Dom3! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Sindai]

These are awesome. Can you give us anything for early R'yleh? They're the aboleths, right?

[Endoperez]

If you don't have any more requests for today, I'll go to sleep. However, first I have to show off my contact in the police force. Decimus's a nice guy, and got a bigger, shinier badge just recently. He's in command of a group of the best border guards for the last 50 years. Most of them are in top notch, though, although some of the undead guys have a broken bone here and there. It's 40 living and 80 undead legionaires if you're wondering. A full regiment! They don't get higher in that, except in Foreign Affairs where they get more field experience.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/442596-temp.jpg

[Endoperez]

Sindai said:
These are awesome. Can you give us anything for early R'yleh? They're the aboleths, right?



Okay, one more, just a small one. It's one year old, just spawned from its Polypal Mother. Isn't it cute?

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/442597-temp.jpg

[Nerfix]

Cool stuff, but what is the symbol the Censor has?

EDIT: Awww, the Polypal Spawn is cute. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[DominionsFan]

Endoperez said:

DominionsFAN said:Btw Endoperez, which one is the strongest Doms 3. creature what can be summoned? [According to your opinion] Can you post a screenshot about it if you can? I would like to see the spell itself and the monster if it is possible. Thanks in advance. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif



I can't. I don't know enough. I could go for most expensive high-level summon, but Iron Dragons, Tarrasques, etc aren't exactly exiting.

The most powerful creatures are probably the new horrors. I'll show you a special ability of one of them. This particular power is from one of Umor's three forms. Umor is the Eater of Gods.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/442543-temp.gif

Needless to say, Umor has pretty impressive magic resistance, and quite an array of abilities.



Eh, that is some nasty thing indeed, thanks for the screenie!

[Endoperez]

BTW, I just realized Umor is the FIRST new creature you'll see after installing Dom3! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif Some kind of an eater of dreams or consumer of time would've fit a bit better for an icon, but he should do quite nicely. It's not like just seeing him would be dangerous!

[Endoperez]

Moved from The Unforgiving Princess. Early Ulm is Enigma of Steel, a barbaric nation.


okiN said:
"Enigma of Steel"... where have I heard that before...?

http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/5266/conantt3.jpg





http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h251/Endoperez/temp.jpg

[Nerfix]

Interesting. And harsh.

[alexti]

Did somebody cast invisibility on scale mail hauberk?

[Endoperez]

alexti said:
Did somebody cast invisibility on scale mail hauberk?


No, you misunderstood. The naked guy is "a spirit of an ancient swordsman".

[BigJMoney]

Thanks for showing early Ulm :-). It is something I am really curious about. You wouldn't show the statties on that hulking ubersword of Ulmness, wouldja? Do you know if in early era Ulm there is any mention of stuff we get later, like smiths or blackplate?

=$=

[Endoperez]

I'll show you the description. There's a bit more information in the descriptions of e.g. Chiefs, Warrior Smiths, Shamans and Iron Warriors. Every tribe is lead by a triumvirate of a chief, a smith and a shaman. The chiefs lead in matters of war, shamen in ways of the spirits, smiths in judicial matters. Iron Warriors are sons of the smiths who don't follow the path of their fathers, but war with mauls and heavy (for Early Age) armor.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h251/Endoperez/4448b214.jpg

[Nerfix]

Early Ulm seems pretty interesting, and kind of...un-Ulmish with the sneak attacks.

[tka]

Ulm description made me wonder does Ulm have special "national items" to forge? Something made of steel?

[Endoperez]

tka said:
Ulm description made me wonder does Ulm have special "national items" to forge? Something made of steel?



Not that I know of. They do have better equipment than most nations in LA. Imagine the world of Bronze armor a la base Pangea and Golden Era Arcoscephale, with occassional drop down to Mictlan and then few better-armed and -armored races. 14 is a respectable protection value in EA, even if I don't remember how it's divided between body and head. Good helmets sometimes raise the prot value quite a bit.

[Nerfix]

Could you show us what Virtue/Moloc/Prince of Death looks like? I understand Virtue went through a big change.

[Daynarr]

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/442731-Virtue.JPG

[okiN]

Holy Divine Beings, Batman!

Hey, wouldja mind showing us a new Machaka nation, if there is such a thing?

[Nerfix]

Looks awesome.

[JaydedOne]

Every screenshot, every single one, has been amazing in terms of whetting my appetite for Dom3. The Ulm "Enigma of Steel" description matched with the Steel Warrior has me dying to play Ulm in a non-Black Forest way for the first time... ever.

Seriously, kudos. I wasn't certain how much the new themes would grasp my attention but I haven't seen a mis-step yet.

[BigJMoney]

Yeah, I like Enigma of Steel, myself. I really like the stealthy bit. We'll have to see how well they can pull it off. Heck, I played a couple games without using Ulmish cavalry anyway (yeah, yeah, don't ask). The fact they still get magic crafting bonuses in EA is good to me.

Heh. Actually, I was wondering why, for thematic reasons, the developers did not decide to create unique magical items/artifacts for the different eras. In fact, It seems to me that all artifacts in the game ought to be era specific. Maybe we'll see something like this in Dom IV.

=$=

[NTJedi]

okiN said:
Holy Divine Beings, Batman!

Hey, wouldja mind showing us a new Machaka nation, if there is such a thing?



Yes indeed... I would also like to read and see about Machaka. Do they still have extremely weak province defense ?

[Kristoffer O]

> I was wondering why, for thematic reasons, the developers did not decide to create unique magical items/artifacts for the different eras

Just a matter of priority. Getting the game finished was more important. It might appear at a later date.

> like to read and see about Machaka

Machaka has not been changed much atm. Defence is probably changed a bit, but I'm not sure in what ways. There are some vague ideas on an early Machaka, but nothing that will appear in the release version or in the first patch.

[Nerfix]

What about Late Machaka & Pythium?

Many would be happy to play some sort of byzantine Pythium...

[Kristoffer O]

Not there yet

[Kristoffer O]

NTJedi said:

okiN said:
Holy Divine Beings, Batman!

Hey, wouldja mind showing us a new Machaka nation, if there is such a thing?



Yes indeed... I would also like to read and see about Machaka. Do they still have extremely weak province defense ?



Hmm, machaka got a new hero IIRC.
http://ulm.illwinter.com/dom3/ape.jpg

Its two actually.

[Kristoffer O]

One of the new Mictlan summonables. Mictlan is one of the nations with numerous new summonables.

http://ulm.illwinter.com/dom3/ozelotl.jpg

[JaydedOne]

I'd like to see some of the new-look Ermor, particularly Early Era (as I'm curious to see what they're like at that point given that, in theory, the shift to an undead nation comes in Late Era).

[Endoperez]

Early Era Ermor has more archaic lineup of troops (Leve, Accensus and Rorarus instead of Velites and Alae Legionnaires, and Lizard Auxiliares (C'tissians) and Gladiators (as Pythium in MA) that aren't available to Ermor later on). They still (or already?) have Hastati, Principi and Triarii.
Mages are different. Flamen, Pontifex, Augur and Augur Elder are mages-priests with less emphasis on the priest part, with few more powerful priests dedicated to the rising faith in the Prophet Shrouded In White. Powerful paths are in Death and Astral, but weak Fire is common, and their Augurs are exceptionally versatile for Early Age where most nations have elementally attuned creatures as their best mages. Holy 3 Archbishops, all ancient and starting to suffer from it even with their powers of rejuvenation (96 / 90 years, when normal max age for human is about 50) can also heal afflictions, and the sacred Equites of the Sacred Shroud recuperate them naturally.

Here is an edited image of an Augur. It shows his randoms on the same screen; usually you have to click on the question mark.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h251/Endoperez/151198b4.jpg

[Huntsman]

ACK! Spoilers!

[Frostmourne27]

I'm not sure I'd read a thread called screenies in the forum for a yet to be released game if I was concerned with spoilers. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif From what I hear though, beta testers would be really hard pressed to show us everything.

[ioticus]

Any cool new blood summons? How about anything more powerful than the Demon Lords?

[Endoperez]

ioticus said:
Any cool new blood summons? How about anything more powerful than the Demon Lords?



See the earlier question about most powerful summon. Also, see St Patrik's Silent Seas AAR. Is A2S3H3 size3 4-armed magic being who can instantly teleport anywhere different enough to be powerful? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

I'm not sure if Doom Horrors can be summoned with Wish any more, at least without them going wild and eating your own troops when you most need them (see: Eater of the Dead). And Demon Lords are supposed to be Evil with lots of Blood Slaves. Hmm. HMmmm! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif I just recalled the perfect unit to show. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Endoperez]

<font color="green">Awe +6, three full immunities, Fire shield (10 ap). </font>

The rest you can see in the picture. Pretty good for someone unarmed and unarmoured.







http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h251/Endoperez/b6256cf0.jpg

[Endoperez]

Oh, and OF COURSE, The Messenger from the High Priests of Illwinter, the Accursed One, the Name Shrouded in Mystery, the Bane of the Non-Scandinavian Fans, Mystifier, The Error Message of Doom:

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h251/Endoperez/e3436660.jpg

[DominionsFan]

Endoperez said:
Oh, and OF COURSE, The Messenger from the High Priests of Illwinter, the Accursed One, the Name Shrouded in Mystery, the Bane of the Non-Scandinavian Fans, Mystifier, The Error Message of Doom:

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h251/Endoperez/e3436660.jpg



Nagot gick fel! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
Hm there was a player with this name if I remember correctly. I haven't seen him for a long time now.
Also where is Saber Cherry?

[Nerfix]

Endoperez said:
<font color="green">Awe +6, three full immunities, Fire shield (10 ap). </font>

The rest you can see in the picture. Pretty good for someone unarmed and unarmoured.

Wonderful. Beatiful. *tears*

[Nerfix]

Kristoffer O said:
One of the new Mictlan summonables. Mictlan is one of the nations with numerous new summonables.

http://ulm.illwinter.com/dom3/ozelotl.jpg

Interestin, but I wonder of these "Ozelotl" have anything to do with real ozelots... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[WraithLord]

Wow. That seraph is awe inspiring. I really like its details like the six wings, and the fact that you can't see its face (Attached is "real" seraph pic) .

There are some really cool angels in the bible and in the apocryphs, some of which are evil (samael, lucifer, asmodeus and satan) and some goodly. I recall from somewhere seeing an image of an angel that is made of many faces with many eyes, I don't recall its name but it was really cool looking. I wonder if more angels had made it into dominions...

[Nerfix]

I believe you mean the Hezekiel's Wheel.

[Ed Kolis]

Bah! As long as there is no evil counterpart called the Sans Seraph, I will not be satisfied! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Agrajag]

Funny how in The Bible (unlike the new testament), Satan is pretty much just a lousy lawyer.

The Seraph is cool. ^_^

[alexti]

Does magic duel still exist? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[WraithLord]

Agrajag said:
Funny how in The Bible (unlike the new testament), Satan is pretty much just a lousy lawyer.



Now I wouldn't call him that http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

But you are right, in the bible all angels are mere servants of god, with little identity or character (at least this was the preferred way the depict them, so that ppl won't worship them)

[JaydedOne]

I'd love to see some of the unique national heroes.

Alongside that, -anything- resembling changes to Carrion Woods would be awesome to share. I loves me them Carrion Woods!

[Agrajag]

WraithLord said:

Agrajag said:
Funny how in The Bible (unlike the new testament), Satan is pretty much just a lousy lawyer.



Now I wouldn't call him that http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif


Have you read the book of Jobe?
That's how my bible teacher used to refer to him while we were learning that (it was also pretty true).
And that book features the second baddest-assed Satan in The Bible.
But I digress...

More screenies! (preferably featuring some cool undeads, preferably of the more earthly kind http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif)

[Frostmourne27]

More screenies! (preferably featuring some cool undeads, preferably of the more earthly kind )

Speating of thing earthly, could we see some earth summons, if there are new ones of course. Please?

[Nerfix]

Compromise: Boron shows us the Agartan undead units. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[DominionsFan]

Frostmourne27 said:

More screenies! (preferably featuring some cool undeads, preferably of the more earthly kind )

Speating of thing earthly, could we see some earth summons, if there are new ones of course. Please?



I second this, I would like to see some [new] high level earth summons myself. Thanks in advance. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

[Endoperez]

I don't think there are any new Earth spells, but I could be wrong. There have been few interesting changes to spells, though.


http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/443247-temp.jpg

Their costs are also down to 3 gems.

[Endoperez]

Long post coming in!

Chapter 1: So You Want To See A Hero?

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h251/Endoperez/3111af1a.jpg



Chapter 2: An Apple a Millennium Keeps Death at bay
Or, Tjatse ain't a Niefelheim hero.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/443258-temp.jpg


Chapter 3: 'Tis a Great Eagle. 'Tis a common specimen, and unlike that shifter yonder, 'tis neither resistant to cold nor especially flammable.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h251/Endoperez/6a6d7852.jpg



Chapter 4: We Have A Leviathan Too
This trio won't make the main meal of a banquet, but I'm sure you can come up with alternative uses.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h251/Endoperez/b1718120.jpg

[Nerfix]

Tjatse looks like an ordinary Jarl. Otherwise cool stuff.

[DominionsFan]

Endoperez said:
I don't think there are any new Earth spells, but I could be wrong.



Oh. Nevermind then. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/stupid.gif

[ioticus]

Under Tjatse's decription is should say "powers in air magic are increased"

[Agrajag]

Cool!

Though the Ziz does not count as an earthy undead, I want earthy undeads! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif
Something like a Tartarian, but new, would be cool http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

(demands, demands http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif)

[Endoperez]

Agrajag said:
Cool!

Though the Ziz does not count as an earthy undead, I want earthy undeads! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif
Something like a Tartarian, but new, would be cool http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

(demands, demands http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif)



Well, I could always post a Leviathan - oh. Well, they COULD crawl on land. Not cool? Oh, damn.

Well, what about the Unfrozen? Tribe of stone-age people freed from a glazier, complete with a mage? Oh, right, ice doesn't count as ground.

So, what about a Tupilak? They are nice, Late Age Atlantis national things. DDDW, it creates a Tupilak from parts of various animals, and the creature is then able to change forms between them. The most common recipe has seal, raven and reindeer for mobility, and bear for fighting capabilities. Oh... sorry, I forgot it isn't a summon. Nor recruitable; that one pic Kristoffer posted long ago, the one which has an Atlantian riding something that looks like an undead bear, must be a hero or something.

Hey, I know! What about a poison golem! Construction 9, DDDDEE, 35 gems. You should know the icons, they've all been used in Dom2 already (both resistances are immunities, of course, this being a golem. Banefire Shield is only strength 5, though.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/443407-temp.jpg

[Kristoffer O]

&gt; I don't think there are any new Earth spells, but I could be wrong.

Troll kings court is upped with war trolls and troll moose knights.

Also:

http://ulm.illwinter.com/dom3/Agarta_sum.jpg
http://ulm.illwinter.com/dom3/Agartha_ench.jpg

[Endoperez]

Err... Oops?
Agartha's new Enchantments, as you can see, have Earth as primary path, while Conjurations are primary Death. Should've remembered that.

Oh, and Late Age Agartha (only it has those E/D summons, MA enchanted statues instead of corpses, and EA only produced the statues and (non-human) corpses) can also create exploding Fire Corpses. They're cheap at 1 fire gem, but don't fare that much better than plain soulless. Until they die, that is. Of course, you'll have a hard time getting them to your enemy alone, and come an ill-timed arrow or Banishment...

[Nerfix]

*drools*

Thanks.

[Endoperez]

Damn... I just realized I forgot to tell what a Tupilak actually does. The spell, Send Tupilak, is a remote assassin similar to Earth Attack etc.

[DominionsFan]

Kristoffer O said:
&gt; I don't think there are any new Earth spells, but I could be wrong.

Troll kings court is upped with war trolls and troll moose knights.

Also:

http://ulm.illwinter.com/dom3/Agarta_sum.jpg
http://ulm.illwinter.com/dom3/Agartha_ench.jpg




Ah, neat! Thx Kris! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

[Nerfix]

What Spirit Curse does?

[Agrajag]

Yet again, I exclaim : "Cool"

[Endoperez]

It's a different way to Curse someone. Costs one gem IIRC.

[Nerfix]

Aaah, I see.

Hey, could I see a pic of Sea Serpent? Have they changed?

[Kristoffer O]

They havn't changed IIRC

[Nerfix]

I see then. Show Naiads then. Please?

[Kristoffer O]

Bah, you just want to see a naked lady. You wont get that. THe naiad is robed in blue silk.

[Nerfix]

Kristoffer O said:
Bah, you just want to see a naked lady. You wont get that. THe naiad is robed in blue silk.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/redface.gif
Sir, if I wanted to see a naked lady I would head to the AAR section. Boron's AAR has the Earth Mother and st. patrik's has the Lady of Fortune...

[Endoperez]

Yes, but Lady of Love is still shrouded... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[JaydedOne]

Some units from the new Gaelic tribes-inspired nation would also be much appreciated. Also, I'd dig on seeing some new Pretenders.

[Nerfix]

Oh, but love is innocent. &lt;3

[Nerfix]

JaydedOne said:
Some units from the new Gaelic tribes-inspired nation would also be much appreciated. Also, I'd dig on seeing some new Pretenders.

I want to see that Sun Disc.

[Endoperez]

There are four tribes in Marverni. Marverni, the namesake, has everything from Horn Blowers to Slingers and Javelineers and both normal and noble warriors. Other tribes are Ambibate, Carnute and Eponi.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/443673-temp.jpg

[Endoperez]

Nerfix said:
I want to see that Sun Disc.



Here. As the new menu background fits, I left some of it there. Also, please note that the costs of the pretenders have been changed slightly, and e.g. Moloch has become F2B1.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/443675-temp.jpg

[Nerfix]

Interesting, interesting.

The Solar Disc looks oddly...cool. though I don't see any talons on it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Caduceus]

Solar talons are outside our visual spectrum.

[Agrajag]

I wonder, is there a vikingesque nation somewhere over in dom3?
(And I don't mean dom2's Jotunheim and Vanheim which are based on norse mythology, but actual vikings in uberchainmail* and uberswords*)

*-Yep, apparently two of the vikings greatest strengths were their awesome chainmail, which was much better than any other chainmail available at the time, and their metal-folded swords (like katanas!) that were marginally better than regular swords of the time (the low quality despite the metal-folding is due to crude furnaces with uneven heat distribution)

[BigJMoney]

How is Mictlan divided across the ages, or are they? Also, besides new summons have their been any basic changes/additions to them, as a nation?

=$=

[Endoperez]

BigJMoney said:
How is Mictlan divided across the ages, or are they? Also, besides new summons have their been any basic changes/additions to them, as a nation?



They have sorcerers who can turn into turkeys, are one of the few nations that can summon Couatls, can recruit Couatls in proper ages, and MA Mictlan isn't a Blood nation. You know, Lawgiver and all that crap. In Late Age, Atlantians who escaped the devastation of their underwater empire to the swamps near Mictlan found themselves being worshipped as gods of rain, liked the idea, and quickly re-instated the Blood Cult, and we'll get to bathe in crimson rivers again.

EDIT: Oh, and while the automatic tax management isn't Mictlan-only, it helps them a bit more than most other nations.

[BigJMoney]

TURN INTO TURKEYS....(?)

Do they retain the "spread Dominion only through sacrifice" through EA and LA?

=$=

[Endoperez]

BigJMoney said:
TURN INTO TURKEYS....(?)

Do they retain the "spread Dominion only through sacrifice" through EA and LA?



1) Yes. They'll fly.

2) EA and LA, but obviously not MA.

[JaydedOne]

So, out of curiosity, what's the balance theory in terms of Mictlan dominion? What's so great about their ability to sacrifice-spread that makes it preferable to the normal form of Dominion push? Or is it balanced some other way, perhaps through the power of Blood magic?

I know that Mictlan was generally considered a weaker kingdom -because- of the lack of Dominion spread. I like that it uses a unique mechanic, but I'm curious as to how/if its balance has been addressed in Dom3.

[quantum_mechani]

JaydedOne said:

I know that Mictlan was generally considered a weaker kingdom -because- of the lack of Dominion spread.

That's far from true, it was easily in the top 5 nations.

[JaydedOne]

This was two years ago and was more of a consensus-based opinion than it was a well-documented breakdown of mechanics opinion. I'm more than open to the idea that over time it proved to be a powerful nation, but I'd like to see more explanation therein -- what made it one of the top 5? Some further discussion of how DomIII's changes will affect Mictlan would also be welcome.

For my part, I loved their theme. I just couldn't play them worth a lick. ;-)

[quantum_mechani]

JaydedOne said:
This was two years ago and was more of a consensus-based opinion than it was a well-documented breakdown of mechanics opinion. I'm more than open to the idea that over time it proved to be a powerful nation, but I'd like to see more explanation therein -- what made it one of the top 5? Some further discussion of how DomIII's changes will affect Mictlan would also be welcome.

For my part, I loved their theme. I just couldn't play them worth a lick. ;-)

Well, they really had two big things going for them- some of the best sacred troops in the game, and the best blood hunters. Given that blood magic and blesses are two of the most powerful (some would say overpowered) tactics in dom2, it was a powerful combination.

So early game, their saceds were a terror with f9w9 and middle and late game they could dominate with devils, fiends and unique blood scs. The power of their blood hunters was even better when combined with all their free patrollers tribal kings generated.

As for how this has changed in dom3, they are weaker in some ways (mostly due to some blood magic nerfs), but stronger in others (new unique summons), so overall I would still rate them a top-notch nation.

[Nerfix]

I want to see the holy atlantians the late mictlanese worship.

[Amos]

I'm gonna use Virtue's flambeau for my sprites.

[SafeKeeper]

Bah, you just want to see a naked lady. You wont get that. THe naiad is robed in blue silk.

Logic in action. Mass killings OK, kidnapping and sacrifice of virgins OK, boobs bad;).

PS: What about the Great Mother nudist Pretender?

[Kristoffer O]

Boobs are OK. Just not for Nerfix http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif. There are other nudies. Lady of love, succubus etc.

[Endoperez]

So, one rain priest and one Virtue.

[Agrajag]

Agrajag said:
I wonder, is there a vikingesque nation somewhere over in dom3?
(And I don't mean dom2's Jotunheim and Vanheim which are based on norse mythology, but actual vikings in uberchainmail* and uberswords*)

*-Yep, apparently two of the vikings greatest strengths were their awesome chainmail, which was much better than any other chainmail available at the time, and their metal-folded swords (like katanas!) that were marginally better than regular swords of the time (the low quality despite the metal-folding is due to crude furnaces with uneven heat distribution)


So that means a no, right? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Endoperez]

I'm sick. In a "I cought a cold and suffer" kind of way. And it's raining outside. So I'm leaving the Rain Priest out of the picture, and give you the Virtue, and try to rest.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/443936-temp.jpg


Oh, and Dominion 10 gives Awe. Virtue already has Awe, so it's increased. Virtue with high Awe is, surprise surprise, Awesome.

[Nerfix]

Dominion 10 gives Awe? Well, that is fitting.

[okiN]

Lemme get this straight - is it

a) making a pretender with base dominion 10 gives him/her/it awe for the duration of the game
b) a pretender in a province with 10 friendly dominion gets awe?

[Kristoffer O]

a

[Ballbarian]

Kristoffer, I believe you are now the record holder for the shortest, most concise and to the point post. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Nerfix]

I'd fancy seeing one of those mage pretenders.

[BigJMoney]

Yeah, did they incorporate any of CB's ideas regarding the crone/hag? I used the vanilla crone before, but after CB came out, the hag was just kickass.

=$=

[Nerfix]

Did the incorporate any ideas of my Archmages mod? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Pretty unlikely.

[Endoperez]

There HAVE been some changes to the rainbow gods. They all have at least one path now, and some have to. It seems that most got one more path than they used to have. It's not much, but it's something. And I quess it does allow for a bit of a blessing as well. Crones have D1 now, still 0 points, but start old. In their case, having Nature magic isn't enough to stave off the old age, so you'd better pick up some more of the Death to keep her from not suffering from it too badly. That Death as in a magic path, as a scale, Death would make matters worse. Growth helps, if your nation's mages also happen to be old.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/444045-temp.jpg

[Nerfix]

Oh my Umor! That screenshot is like...straight out of my Archmages mod. :O

Dunno if Illwinter had that in mind when they made these changes, but well, it is rather similiar to the idea I had in mod.

I don't need to say that I am pretty happy over these changes. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Kristoffer O]

I'm sorry to say I havn't checked your archmages mod IIRC.

Unfortunately there are several mods I havn't looked at, since I can't unrar files. I'm currently stuck with zip.

JK said 7-zip works on rar too. SHould perhaps get it.

[Nerfix]

Kristoffer O said:
I'm sorry to say I havn't checked your archmages mod IIRC.

Unfortunately there are several mods I havn't looked at, since I can't unrar files. I'm currently stuck with zip.

JK said 7-zip works on rar too. SHould perhaps get it.

Well, I don't mind but I was pretty positively suprised over the telepathic changes to the rainbow mage pretenders...

[DominionsFan]

Kristoffer O said:
I'm sorry to say I havn't checked your archmages mod IIRC.

Unfortunately there are several mods I havn't looked at, since I can't unrar files. I'm currently stuck with zip.

JK said 7-zip works on rar too. SHould perhaps get it.



http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif

Why dont you use Winrar? That tool can compress/decompress everything and its free.

[Daynarr]

Its not free, thats the catch.

[DominionsFan]

Daynarr said:
Its not free, thats the catch.




Well you don't have to register it. The evaluation copy is good enough. It can handle everything what is needed for a "normal" user.

[Kristoffer O]

It doesn't exist in linux to my knowledge

[DominionsFan]

Kristoffer O said:
It doesn't exist in linux to my knowledge



Ye oh...I thought that you are a Window$ user. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
Anyways what about this?

RAR 3.60 for Linux -&gt;

http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm

[Gandalf Parker]

what about zipping it? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif I wont load 3rd party stuff to my linux. It kindof undoes the reason for using linux. Actually though Kristoffer you might check to see if its already there. I typed rar and it worked.

*sigh* so many different "just get this" stuff. Mods in different compressions, offered only on things like bittorrent, or as iso, etc etc. Ive lost track of how many things Ive had to add to my machines. I have to jump from keyboard to keyboard to see if I have it already available on one of the others.

[BigJMoney]

Endoperez said:
Crones have D1 now, still 0 points, but start old. In their case, having Nature magic isn't enough to stave off the old age, so you'd better pick up some more of the Death to keep her from not suffering from it too badly. That Death as in a magic path, as a scale, Death would make matters worse. Growth helps, if your nation's mages also happen to be old.




Start old? Wait a minute, you can't be saying pretenders can get afflictions and die from old age, can you?! Also, the main change CB implemented concerning the crone/hag was the ability to heal afflicted units in the same province. That was why she was so great http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

=$=

[quantum_mechani]

BigJMoney said:


Start old? Wait a minute, you can't be saying pretenders can get afflictions and die from old age, can you?!

Yes they can, though crones are the only ones that will most likely actually see it in practice. Even they are much less likely to get afflictions than an average mage, since they have a much higher base lifespan, which reduces the chance of afflictions.

[BigJMoney]

I'm scratching my head and wondering if anyone in their right mind would ever play a crone. Of course, I'm a Dom3 noob, and I'm sure those spells that extend life, etc. would make it viable. I'm sitting here imagining the process. Crone gets old, crone gets diseased, crone finally dies. You call crone back, but she's still dying and she's still diseased, so she dies again... I suppose the way to think of it is that she is not a god yet, but she's reaching to attain godhood. She has to "cheat life" the whole way there, too. That makes sense.

=$=

[Kristoffer O]

&gt; I'm scratching my head and wondering if anyone in their right mind would ever play a crone.

Because you can name her Hagga!

Also crones start with death magic and if you up that a bit you will not suffer from disease for a couple of hundreds of turns, unless exposed to decay. The main effect of the old age is that she has age reduced stats (but her basic stats are upped to represent her stats if she was young).

&gt; You call crone back, but she's still dying and she's still diseased, so she dies again...

Disease always goes away when you are recalled or reborn from immortality. Only mister disease himself (T'ien Ch'i hero) gets diseased immediately once reborn.

&gt; I suppose the way to think of it is that she is not a god yet,

There are plenty of gods that dies in the myths and religions of our history. Nothing spectacular about that http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Nerfix]

Besides, you could just cast Twiceborn on her...if the people can worship an old hag, they can worship a wight mage.

Hmm...how about a screenie of Son of the Sky? Or what was that winged titan called.

[JaydedOne]

You know what I'd like?

A screenie of a new assassin-type. Any will do, so long as there's commander-killing goodness involved. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Sindai]

There's already a freaking ninja on the first page of the thread. What more could you want?

Anyway, does Abyssia have 3 themes now? Obviously Blood of Humans is LA and normal is...MA probably? Then what's their EA like?

[JaydedOne]

I want another assassin. Preferably one that shoots laser beams out of his eyes. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Come on now. Am I really that greedy for wanting another? They're an awfully fun type of unit.

[PDF]

Sindai said:
There's already a freaking ninja on the first page of the thread. What more could you want?

Anyway, does Abyssia have 3 themes now? Obviously Blood of Humans is LA and normal is...MA probably? Then what's their EA like?



They're like normal Abysia, but bigger, meaner and hotter ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Nerfix]

Bigger? Do they get giant Abysians or something? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Sindai]

PDF said:
They're like normal Abysia, but bigger, meaner and hotter ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif


I don't see any screenshots so I don't believe you. :p

[quantum_mechani]

Nerfix said:
Bigger? Do they get giant Abysians or something? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Funny you should say that... some early Abysians actually are bigger. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Nerfix]

quantum_mechani said:

Nerfix said:
Bigger? Do they get giant Abysians or something? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Funny you should say that... some early Abysians actually are bigger. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Your claim requires pictorial evidence.

[Agrajag]

JaydedOne said:
I want another assassin. Preferably one that shoots laser beams out of his eyes. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif


I want freaking sharks with laser beams!

[Endoperez]

Nerfix said:Hmm...how about a screenie of Son of the Sky? Or what was that winged titan called.



I'm afraid you have to be more spesific.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/444538-temp.jpg

[Endoperez]

Nerfix said:Your claim requires pictorial evidence.



I REALLY wanted to post just a picture of the EA Abysian recruitment screen, but decided against it. My own eagerness in seeing new things has been played against me lately, so I don't want to be too mean.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/444542-temp.jpg

[Endoperez]

Agrajag said:
JaydedOne said:I want another assassin. Preferably one that shoots laser beams out of his eyes. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

I want freaking sharks with laser beams!



You've already seen the ranged blaster-assassin, so I'll give you the fish-that's-not-exactly-fish beamster. It's grown older (108 years old already!) since the baby picture. Its Polypal Mother are so proud of it!

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/444547-temp.jpg

[Endoperez]

Nerfix said:
I want to see the holy atlantians the late mictlanese worship.



One Atlantian coming up. Actually, they came up a long time ago, but it took me a while to shrug off the jungle fever. No Queens of Rain, so barring national heroes, their respectable caste is gone in the Late Age.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/444548-temp.jpg

[Nerfix]

Endoperez said:I'm afraid you have to be more spesific.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/444538-temp.jpg

Titan with wings &amp; lightning bolt.

Also, cool screenies. What is Rhuax?

[Endoperez]

JaydedOne said:
I want another assassin. Preferably one that shoots laser beams out of his eyes. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Come on now. Am I really that greedy for wanting another? They're an awfully fun type of unit.



They are. There aren't that many totally new assassins (Early Age Abysia has Demonbred assassins, very much like the Dom2 hero) and there are more stealthy troops with interesting abilities. Satyr Sneaks are just common troublemakers, but Nagini of Patala... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif


http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/444551-temp.jpg

That last Water pick is from a random. The random is common 100?WESN, or one 100% chance for one of Water, Earth, Astral or Nature. Nagini are 250 gp capital-only commanders of Late Age Patala (monkey people), and in Middle Age, they are national summon of Bandar Log, Conj. 4, WWE, 25 gems, with no national mages capable of casting the summon. Their best mages do have 110%WESN random (one 100% and one 10% chance for getting one of those paths; the randoms are not linked) so there's a slight possibility of getting WE caster who could eventually make a Water Bracelet.


Also, as you probably noticed, this picture is of slightly higher quality. The game looks much better than this, and I realized how ugly the other pictures are, so I made this picture of slightly better quality (and many times bigger).

[JaydedOne]

Wow. The Nagini is just... nice. Versatile, yet not overpowered. I love the fact that they get so many options. Probably the best argument I've seen yet to play Patala -- just getting to monkey around (pun intended) with that unit.

Thank you. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[JaydedOne]

Endoperez said:
I'm afraid you have to be more spesific.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/444538-temp.jpg



Oh, now you're just toying with us. Man, does that Pretenders page look beautiful. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I'm very interested in the Kali-looking Pretender in the top-right corner.

[Sindai]

Endoperez said:
I REALLY wanted to post just a picture of the EA Abysian recruitment screen, but decided against it. My own eagerness in seeing new things has been played against me lately, so I don't want to be too mean.


What do you mean "too mean"? Taunting us like that is the cruelest thing possible! Please can we have a recruitment screen pic?

One for EA R'yleh would be super sweet too.

[Endoperez]

Sindai said:
What do you mean "too mean"? Taunting us like that is the cruelest thing possible! Please can we have a recruitment screen pic?

One for EA R'yleh would be super sweet too.



EA R'lyeh is interesting, or would be if you knew the units.
EA Abysian rec screen isn't interesting, because you already now almost all the units. It'd have been cruel to post just that, because you'd see that the new demonbreds are armed with axes, and that there ARE bigger Abysians, but wouldn't have known about the differences (hp, fire shield, good prot for EA, etc). But if you really want, one EA Abysian rec screen coming up...

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/444570-temp.jpg

Random tidbit of the post: Shift-click now adds 10 units to the recruitment queue.

[Endoperez]

JaydedOne said:
I'm very interested in the Kali-looking Pretender in the top-right corner.



I hope you mean Deva. The other one is Destroyer of Worlds, and he also appeared in the Shepherds of Creation mod for Dom2.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/444571-temp.jpg

[Nerfix]

Hmm, a demon killing blood mage natarajaish titan.

Fascinating.

So Endo, how about my request? The winged titan?

[JaydedOne]

Very nice! I'm very curious as to how the starting gear stacks up against stuff that can be crafted and how effective she is against the various Blood summons. But I generally love the idea of an "anti-Blood SC" SC Pretender. She's purty. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Endoperez]

Nerfix said:So Endo, how about my request? The winged titan?



Sorry, I missed that post of yours. One Lord of the Sky is up. I'll post his pic in a moment.

Edit 2:
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/444584-temp.jpg

[Nerfix]

JaydedOne said:
Very nice! I'm very curious as to how the starting gear stacks up against stuff that can be crafted and how effective she is against the various Blood summons. But I generally love the idea of an "anti-Blood SC" SC Pretender. She's purty. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

If I remember correctly the Apotropaic weapons stun demons.

[JaydedOne]

I'd dig on just having the army selection screens for the three ages, just to be able to see the names for each era. But perhaps that's giving away too much too soon...

[Nerfix]

Endoperez said:

Nerfix said:So Endo, how about my request? The winged titan?



Sorry, I missed that post of yours. One Lord of the Sky is up. I'll post his pic in a moment.

Edit 2:
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/444584-temp.jpg

Ahhhh, awesome, Pity about the cost though.

[Endoperez]

JaydedOne said:
Very nice! I'm very curious as to how the starting gear stacks up against stuff that can be crafted and how effective she is against the various Blood summons. But I generally love the idea of an "anti-Blood SC" SC Pretender. She's purty. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif



Apotropaic Sword:
Dam 8, Att 1, Def 1, Length 3;
Magic; the effect against demons isn't mentioned but I take it's 2x. #dt_holy deals triple damage to both undead and demons, and #dt_demon deals double damage against demons. And yes, they are new modding commands.

Apotropaic Trident:
Dam 10, Att 0, Def 0, Length 4;
Magic; special effect: Halt Demon (no further description given)

Crown:
Head (although it isn't mentioned)
Prot 8, Def 0, Enc 0

Skull Necklace
Body (again, not mentioned)
Prot 10, Def 0, Enc 0

As sometimes noticed in Dom2, there're still a few weird things with how the equipment works. It seems the empty hands of multi-handed creatures aren't considered at all when items are equipped. I think it's a bug, so I'll file a report.

[Nerfix]

Cool stuff.

[Gandalf Parker]

My favorite assassin is a god. Lord of the Night. Big (lots of hit points), magic (blood and death), flies, and he summons help for the assassinations.

[JaydedOne]

Wow. That sounds verah nace.

Edit: Wasn't he in Dom II? I'm waiting on a replacement CD so I can't check, but I thought that he was perhaps a Machaka pretender?

[Nerfix]

Mictlan pretender, though Gandalf's liking goes back to Dom I where for example Pangaea and some other nations could also get it.

LotN is stealthy, but you needed the Black Heart to make him an assasin.

[Endoperez]

Nerfix said:
Mictlan pretender, though Gandalf's liking goes back to Dom I where for example Pangaea and some other nations could also get it.

LotN is stealthy, but you needed the Black Heart to make him an assasin.



You don't. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif

[Endoperez]

Oh, and no one has mentioned anything about new heroic abilities. They are interesting.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/444620-temp.jpg

[DominionsFan]

Endoperez said:
Oh, and no one has mentioned anything about new heroic abilities. They are interesting.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/444620-temp.jpg



Definitely an interesting new ability. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

[Daynarr]

Oh, there is more of those, but hopefully Endo will leave some as surprise.

[Endoperez]

Daynarr said:
Oh, there is more of those, but hopefully Endo will leave some as surprise.



I'm not going to post any new ones. I might, if they can name one - but probably won't. Unless they manage to quess one! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif Only one of them is mentioned on the dom3progress page, AFAIK, and even it isn't mentioned to be a heroic ability.

[JaydedOne]

If you hadn't been so awesomely cooperative in posting all these screenies so far Endo, I'd call you a tease. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

(Psssst. Give us something Machaka. Preferably spider-y.)

[Endoperez]

JaydedOne said:
If you hadn't been so awesomely cooperative in posting all these screenies so far Endo, I'd call you a tease. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

(Psssst. Give us something Machaka. Preferably spider-y.)



Ah, but I haven't posted many of the really good things.

About Machaka - there isn't much to give. They now have FEDN randoms. Sorceress has the new, interesting 0? random - 10% chance of FEDN, only FED for most. They have some more heroes, but I've kept heroes mostly off-limits. There's also the new pretender, but as it's the ONLY new national pretender Machaka gets, I won't post it. Not the description, at least. However, it's one of the best-looking pics I've seen in Dom3 yet, so I'll post a picture. It's a screenshot straigth from the map view, BTW, and not resized outside the game (I used &lt;/&gt; to resize the commander icons into as big as I could), pasted into Gimp and saved as a jpg.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/444651-temp.jpg

[JaydedOne]

You are a cruel, cruel man. Both for your mention of the -really- good things and for your refusal to post the descrip.

Fie!

[DominionsFan]

Endoperez said:

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/444651-temp.jpg




He looks like a giant! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

[Endoperez]

JaydedOne said:You are a cruel, cruel man. Both for your mention of the -really- good things and for your refusal to post the descrip.


It would've been crueler if you'd seen the big things first, and the strangest things first (have I mentioned LA R'lyeh heroes? They are strange.), and when you got the game you'd be disappointed in "just" having Caelians that look really, really good, or monkey people, or few new national spells. My job is to keep your interest up. I'm allowed to have fun in the meantime.

Fie!


Sorry, I'm not a member. You'll have to have your vengeance in a more modern manner. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif


However, as I mentioned earlier, I've also felt the need of having to know very resently. Illwinter is an evil master.

[Endoperez]

DominionsFAN said:He looks like a giant! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif


It.

[JaydedOne]

Endoperez said:
It would've been crueler if you'd seen the big things first, and the strangest things first (have I mentioned LA R'lyeh heroes? They are strange.), and when you got the game you'd be disappointed in "just" having Caelians that look really, really good, or monkey people, or few new national spells. My job is to keep your interest up. I'm allowed to have fun in the meantime.





*chuckle* I understand all of those things and appreciate the skill with which you're doing your job. I just have to let the frustration vent in productive fashion every now and then. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

I'm enjoying the slow crawl to release and the various info releases along the way. I can already tell that the first weekend that Dom3 hits is going to be a lost one, regardless of anything else going on in my life. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Nerfix]

Endoperez said:
Oh, and no one has mentioned anything about new heroic abilities. They are interesting.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/444620-temp.jpg

Third eye? Reminds me of Saber Cherry's "Heroic Tentacles"... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

And that other heroic ability is Unequaled Obesity, right?

And Machaka pretender...Lord of the Summer Plague, right?

[Endoperez]

Nerfix said:
And that other heroic ability is Unequaled Obesity, right?

And Machaka pretender...Lord of the Summer Plague, right?



One of these is correct.

[Nerfix]

I so wish it's the Lord of the Summer Plague. I'd hate to get Unequaly Obese machakan assasin or something.

[JaydedOne]

C'mon, Endo. No offerings for today? We've got to get at least one new screenie a day. I'm still hunkering for something Carrion Woods if there's something neat in there for me. Or that unit recruitment screen for Early R'lyeh would also be a hoot. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Endoperez]

JaydedOne said:
C'mon, Endo. No offerings for today? We've got to get at least one new screenie a day. I'm still hunkering for something Carrion Woods if there's something neat in there for me. Or that unit recruitment screen for Early R'lyeh would also be a hoot. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif



I was wondering if anyone would request anything. Request something - I mightn't give you exactly what you ask for, but I'll usually post something.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/444905-temp.jpg

[Endoperez]

This is the only new thing of Carrion Woods that comes to mind. Late Age Pangaea has few new things as well, but Carrion Woods doesn't exist as a nation as it used to.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/444906-temp.jpg

[okiN]

I'd like to see some late era R'lyeh units. Something new about Ermor or more Enigma of Steel -related stuff works too.

[JaydedOne]

Endoperez said:
This is the only new thing of Carrion Woods that comes to mind. Late Age Pangaea has few new things as well, but Carrion Woods doesn't exist as a nation as it used to.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/444906-temp.jpg



The lack of a Carrion Woods nation makes me a sad panda, but here's hoping that a suitably nasty replacement has arisen to fill its role. Do we still have a Carrion Dragon pretender or is that gone as well?

[Nerfix]

Endoperez said:I was wondering if anyone would request anything. Request something - I mightn't give you exactly what you ask for, but I'll usually post something.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/444905-temp.jpg

Oh. My. Umor.

Also, lack of carrion woods as a proper nation gets a: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[JaydedOne]

How about a nice new unique artifact? Have any of those on tap?

[Endoperez]

I'll give you sad-faces another hint. This would look the same in all three eras of Pangaea.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/444930-temp.jpg

[JaydedOne]

While I liked Carrion Woods being its own nation very much, it's -very- nice to see that now you basically have -three- Pangaean nations that can go a CW route if they so choose. I'm assuming then that the Carrion Dragon is still around to boot. Excellent. Even what I thought might be a misstep turns out to be a pleasant surprise. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Oh frabjous day!

[Endoperez]

JaydedOne said:
How about a nice new unique artifact? Have any of those on tap?



Nope. Haven't seen any. Actually, I haven't even researched up to Constr. 8 in Dom3. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/444934-temp.jpg

Also, costs have been updated. Level 3 item costs only 15 gems, level 5 items only 40 gems, etc. I couldn't test how much level 4 items cost nowadays because I didn't find any. The reason I didn't find any is that some items have been updated. Rings of Sorcery and Treelords' Staves are level 5 items now.

[thejeff]

From what's being said about the restriction on random paths, you'll probably need the Carrion Dragon, or at least Nature and Death on your pretender to pull it off.

Lamia Queens might be another option if they haven't changed.

How do the Carrion Lord and Lady (and the Centaur?) work with the new lack of unholy? Can they still reanimate?

[Endoperez]

thejeff said:
From what's being said about the restriction on random paths, you'll probably need the Carrion Dragon, or at least Nature and Death on your pretender to pull it off.

Lamia Queens might be another option if they haven't changed.

How do the Carrion Lord and Lady (and the Centaur?) work with the new lack of unholy? Can they still reanimate?



MA and LA Ermor priests reanimate just fine. There could always be a bug in there (Mound Fiend didn't work properly for a long, long time. Lots of different issues, mostly typoes AFAIK), but they should reanimate just fine.

Oh, and Lamia Queens? NNNNNDD isn't easy to get. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/stupid.gif

[okiN]

okiN said:
I'd like to see some late era R'lyeh units. Something new about Ermor or more Enigma of Steel -related stuff works too.



Re-requesting just in case you missed it. If not, promptly ignore this post. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Endoperez]

So, next one will be a commander, probably a mage but might be another special commander as well. Any ideas? One of the Warrior Smiths of EA Ulm, or something else? Sauromatian or Sauromancer; Ermorian Arch Bishop or Grand Thaumaturg, or perhaps something else entirely. I'll try to pick something interesting, so LA R'lyeh is out. I'll post one of their raving, boring madmen in a minute.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/444940-temp.jpg

[Nerfix]

Sauromations plz. They are freaky.

[JaydedOne]

Oh. And something diabolical from Marignon. I'm curious to see how they ended up merging that theme with Conquerors of the Sea.

[Agrajag]

I vote for Ermor.

[Endoperez]

JaydedOne said:
Oh. And something diabolical from Marignon. I'm curious to see how they ended up merging that theme with Conquerors of the Sea.



The simplest way. Conquerors of the Sea mages were toned down, though. Chartmaker only has 100?AS random, as an example.

[Nerfix]

So, how about those screenies...

[Endoperez]

Nerfix said:
So, how about those screenies...



Nah, I want to go to sleep so I'll post one pic now, and other when there are more suggestions so that I can pick something I'd have shown any way and claim that I was generous. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif I'll just have to check whether or not I posted Broken Empire Grand Thaumaturg already.

[JaydedOne]

That's the problem with living in the States when most of the beta testers appear to live in Europe -- the difference in bedtimes leaves me constantly refreshing and finding nothing after the work day's wound down and I'm hoping for evening entertainment. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Endoperez]

Seems not. So, here you get a Grand Thaumaturg. They are good mages, good priests, and good reanimators. Remember that Holy 3 is equivalent to Dom2 Holy 4. Yes, they can cast both Smite and Apostacy!

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/444966-temp.jpg

[Nerfix]

"Unholy powers" =/

Nevertheles, cool.

[DominionsFan]

Agrajag said:
I vote for Ermor.




I'm with you. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Endoperez]

DominionsFAN said:

Agrajag said:
I vote for Ermor.


I'm with you. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif



Hey, you got one Ermor commander already! So, what about another undead commander? Hmm, or perhaps another Early Ermorian mage.

Any way, as shown in the Jomon thread, Oni are big and tough.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/445104-temp.jpg

[Endoperez]

Also, Oni are hard to kill:

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/445105-temp.jpg


You'll see the basics from this pic, but there are various little things that I slightly affect various stats in here. He survived his first battle, but as the second one was against Lizards, they did him in. He still got Heroic Quickness from his first win, and some experience, and then got cursed and netted some afflictions in the lizard fight.

These are the biggest Oni, but even the smaller ones have second forms.

[Cainehill]

Endoperez said:
This is the only new thing of Carrion Woods that comes to mind. Late Age Pangaea has few new things as well, but Carrion Woods doesn't exist as a nation as it used to.




No Carrion Woods? Now I'm glad I didn't pre-order - making CW a global (taking a global spot, capable of being dispelled/over-ridden, requiring massive research and gems) instead of a nation of a darker shade of green just sucks. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[Endoperez]

Cainehill said:No Carrion Woods? Now I'm glad I didn't pre-order - making CW a global (taking a global spot, capable of being dispelled/over-ridden, requiring massive research and gems) instead of a nation of a darker shade of green just sucks. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif



You won't like this, then. There is no Soul Gate as its own nation. It's also initiated with a great ritual. Ashen Empire has to research Conjuration to become Soul Gate. There all kinds of nifty goodies in here, like spells for summoning multiple Wailing Ladies or Lictors at once.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/445108-temp.jpg

[quantum_mechani]

Cainehill said:

No Carrion Woods? Now I'm glad I didn't pre-order - making CW a global (taking a global spot, capable of being dispelled/over-ridden, requiring massive research and gems) instead of a nation of a darker shade of green just sucks. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

I think you will be pretty happy with late Pangaea, they have most the flavor of CW (black dryads- now with death magic, panic apostates, black centuars), and can get almost as many vine creatures if you spend your gems on reanimators. And you can eventually still go full-death mode.

[okiN]

So lemme get this straight - casting Soul Gate overrides the Ashen Empire effect, beginning to generate spirits instead of corporeal undead?

[Endoperez]

okiN said:
So lemme get this straight - casting Soul Gate overrides the Ashen Empire effect, beginning to generate spirits instead of corporeal undead?



If I understood it correctly, it doesn't override anything. Of course, when you get to Conjuration 8, you've probably ran out of bodies... but if you can advance to previously "safe" territory thanks to the addition of the spectral armies, you would get the normal zombies too.

[okiN]

Err... I don't remember troop production ever stopping for me when playing AE. Last I checked, longdead don't need fresh corpses to come popping out of the ground, which can easily lead to four-figure armies if the game is long enough and Ermor is left to its own devices. Unless something's been changed, I expect it'd be a tad overpowering with the addition of the Soul Gate effect. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif

[Nerfix]

Perhaps Carrion Woods and Soul Gate can be restored through modding.

[Endoperez]

Nerfix said:
Perhaps Carrion Woods and Soul Gate can be restored through modding.



All the summoning spells changed into level 0, the globals made cheap enough to be cast on the first turn. The globals could still be dispelled, given enough time, so the nations would also have to hoard as much gems as possible.

[Nerfix]

Hmm, sounds like an unelegant solution. =/

I must say that from what I've gathered the late era sounds pretty disapointing, some things like Dreamlands excluded...

[DominionsFan]

Endoperez said:

Hey, you got one Ermor commander already! So, what about another undead commander? Hmm, or perhaps another Early Ermorian mage.




Nothing is enough when we talk about Ermor! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
Early Ermorian mage....hell yes, show him to us! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

[Nerfix]

Show us the mages of Eldergate.

[Agrajag]

The Grand Thaumaturag doesn't count http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif, he is exactly the same as the BE one, only with +10% to his randoms (and slightly different randoms)

[Endoperez]

Agrajag said:
The Grand Thaumaturag doesn't count http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif, he is exactly the same as the BE one, only with +10% to his randoms (and slightly different randoms)



He's also old, more powerful priest and reanimator, can preach etc etc. He mightn't look that different, but the changes on him alone are pretty big. If you want to test what Grand Thaumaturg's will be like in Dom 3, the easiest way is to mod them to have Holy 4 and Unholy 4, and not reanimate the best creature they could.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/445146-temp.jpg

EA Ermor has Arch Bishops (of Eldregate), but there aren't any mages that would directly transfer into later, undead mages. Augur Elders are their most powerful, and oldest, mages. At 60/48 years old, most will probably get an affliction or two in a few years (few dozen turns), despite their skill in Death. I haven't actually tested it, though. Catching a disease is, of course, much more rare.

[Endoperez]

As seen in the recruitment screen, the big empires sometimes can utilize non-human soldiers in their forces. EA Ermor can recruit Lizard Auxiliare.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/445147-temp.jpg

[DominionsFan]

Endoperez said:
As seen in the recruitment screen, the big empires sometimes can utilize non-human soldiers in their forces. EA Ermor can recruit Lizard Auxiliare.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/445147-temp.jpg



Hm interesting...however I guess that I will prefer mid/late Ermor. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

[JaydedOne]

Today's reiterated request -- R'lyeh Dreamlands mage or priest.

Also, Man's gotten no love at all and, while I never played them, I'm kind of curious to know if I might this time around.

Also, how about some Jotunheim love? We haven't seen anything regarding the giants. Anything new and exciting about one of their eras?

[Nerfix]

Show us dem Magisters.

[Endoperez]

JaydedOne said:
Today's reiterated request -- R'lyeh Dreamlands mage or priest.

Also, Man's gotten no love at all and, while I never played them, I'm kind of curious to know if I might this time around.

Also, how about some Jotunheim love? We haven't seen anything regarding the giants. Anything new and exciting about one of their eras?



You did see a Niefel shapeshifter. But if Niefel aren't giants enough, I'll have to show you a Jotun Skinshifter. The yellow hp on the other form are the hp he would have if he he wasn't hurt. Wolf form has base hp of 48. There are no new hp colors for various status effects. Don't misinterpret that picture, okay?

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/445187-temp.jpg

[Endoperez]

JaydedOne said:
Today's reiterated request -- R'lyeh Dreamlands mage or priest.

Also, Man's gotten no love at all and, while I never played them, I'm kind of curious to know if I might this time around.

Also, how about some Jotunheim love? We haven't seen anything regarding the giants. Anything new and exciting about one of their eras?



Most recruitable units of LA R'lyeh are the same as in MA R'lyeh, and there have been few minor changes but nothing that you'd fine interesting if you don't like the improved Grand Thaumaturg. So... here's a very simple R'lyeh Dreamlands priest. These are the ones that'll pop up here and there and everywhere. This Shubbaruth guy appeared on turn 4, along with 8 mad mermen, of the unittype Mad Merman. The turn before I got 4 Lesser Othernesses. I replaced his unit pic with his icon from the main view. Why do these things always happen when you play, but never when you're supposed to take a screenshot of it?

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/445188-temp.jpg

I'll edit this and replace bmp with jpg. Stupid MsPaint, it allows me to save a bmp file as temp.jpg!

[Endoperez]

Nerfix said:
Show us dem Magisters.



I'm not telling you what The Curse is, but it isn't much more than the reason for the strange magic LA Man has.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/445190-temp.jpg

Is that a spy? Is that a catapult? No, it is the magister!

[Nerfix]

Giant werewolves. Umor...

Magisters...Interesting.

[ioticus]

I just want to know if R'lyeh can summon the Great Cthulhu http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif

[Agrajag]

Endoperez said:
He's also old, more powerful priest and reanimator, can preach etc etc.


Old is obvious, more powerful priest isn't that big, and I don't think he is a better reanimator (unless reanimation has been tweaked in light of the new priest levels)

Isn't there something cool over at LE Ermor? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Endoperez]

Agrajag said:

Endoperez said:
He's also old, more powerful priest and reanimator, can preach etc etc.


Old is obvious, more powerful priest isn't that big, and I don't think he is a better reanimator (unless reanimation has been tweaked in light of the new priest levels)

Isn't there something cool over at LE Ermor? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif



It seems not. Lots of slight chances, but if complete overhaul of Ashen Empire/Soul Gate isn't enough, I don't know what is.

I'll have to give you something non-national. I hope Hidden in Snow, WWWD and 55 gems for a full-fledged tribe of super-Ötzis, is cool enough for you.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/445216-temp.jpg

[JaydedOne]

Guh. How many of those unfrozen do you get for 55 gems?

Cool indeed. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[JaydedOne]

Oh, and another bump on the Man request -- or did I miss something?

[okiN]

JaydedOne said:
Oh, and another bump on the Man request -- or did I miss something?



What, you mean like the Magister? Yes, yes you did.

[JaydedOne]

Guh. For some reason, my mind just jumped right by that post without seeing it. Too many hours in a law office this week...

Another weak national summon, maybe? I feel like I'm hogging up all the requests. Someone else feel free to be more creative in that regard. ;-)

[Endoperez]

ioticus said:
I just want to know if R'lyeh can summon the Great Cthulhu http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif



I hope not. Cthulhu would probably be one of the new Doom Horrors, and they are nasty stuff. R'lyeh has Astral mages, so they can easily Horror Mark all their enemies. The new Astral Geyser spell makes it easy to cause severe horror marks quickly, and if and when the horrors come and feed, someone dies. If the horror-mark happens to hit someone who is heroic, a god, or remarkable for some other reason, stranger horrors might appear.

He's not in the same category in the deadliness, but Visitor is almost as strange a being. He's LA R'lyeh hero, or so I think from his description. I haven't actually seen him appear.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/uploads/445223-temp.jpg

[Endoperez]

JaydedOne said:
Guh. For some reason, my mind just jumped right by that post without seeing it. Too many hours in a law office this week...

Another weak national summon, maybe? I feel like I'm hogging up all the requests. Someone else feel free to be more creative in that regard. ;-)



EDIT: Also, LA Man is called Chelms.

I'd bettter give you time to look at all the goodies, then. I'll give you one more national summon, but this time, I don't think it's going to be a weak one.

C'tis can summon Devourer of Souls, the crocodile-headed being that eats the souls of sinners. Conj 9 national spell, D6, 30 gems. I'll give you a hint: it's big. I think it's a unique summon; it isn't mentioned, but it very much looks and feels like a unique being.
C'tis and few other nations can summon Scorpion Men. Conj 8, EF, 12 gems. "The Scorpion Man is the most frightening beast that wanders in the desert. It is said that when a Scorpion Man looks at a mountain, the mountain shivers in fear."

Choose one.

[JaydedOne]

Devourer of Souls. Totally.

Oh, and The Visitor is really, really pretty. I want one. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif