OK! Let's Shut This Place Down!

[Wade]

Friends! Americans! Countrymen! Lend me your ears!
Everyone go on over to the Official site www.spaceempires5.com (http://www.spaceempires5.com) and contribute your minds. It's time for a change. We have our own home now. You no longer have to be that brother in law sleeping on the couch, eating all the food, and drinking all the soda or beer.

Come! See the many qualities of our new home. Sure!, there are improvements that need to be done. In due time! Come lend your suggestions! Get in early into the Space Empires Universe.

I can not make you leave. But let it be known that the powers that own this place do not have to come down here to evict you. They can simply, and very effectively, bombard you from orbit! You will have no way to fight them!

Come home to your new place. We welcome you all with open arms.

[Xrati]

I think I'll stay here for awhile longer! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Atrocities]

I think I will stay here as well Wade. The new site is fine, but honestly its forums such horribly and I just simply don't see any need to go there and be frustrated by a bad forum program. I like it here, its a nice place to be. I love it here, its home.

[AAshbery76]

Both.

[Annette]

Wade said:
But let it be known that the powers that own this place do not have to come down here to evict you. They can simply, and very effectively, bombard you from orbit! You will have no way to fight them!



And we would to that because...? I happen to love my brother-in-law. He makes a great pot of chili on football Sunday (even though the sofa is beginning to smell).

[Phoenix-D]

Annette said:
And we would to that because...? I happen to love my brother-in-law. He makes a great pot of chili on football Sunday (even though the sofa is beginning to smell).



That's just the research on Biological Weapons level I. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Suicide Junkie]

Shrapnel will always be the official forums to me.

We've got:
- great forums
- friendly admins
- nice people
- most of a decade of history
Overall: Totally awesome, with 7+ years of empirical evidence.

The new place:
- weak forums
- unknown admin(s)
- shortly to be filled with flash-in-the-pan retail gamers
- zero history
Overall: Wouldn't be signed up there if I wasn't a beta

[Sivran]

I'm not even going to sign up there until I hear the forums have improved. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Annette]

Phoenix-D said:
That's just the research on Biological Weapons level I. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif


He calls it "sharing the love". http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif

[Baron Munchausen]

This board will always be the home of the First Ones. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Fyron]

Yes, us Vorlons will stick around here. hehehe

I vote to not abandon ship. If you really feel that you want to abandon this place (which isn't really necessary), it'd be better to go to a site running mature forum software like phpbb (SEnet comes to mind, sorry for plug) than the oddity that is Drupal on spaceempires5.com.

[AgentZero]

Wade said:
Friends! Americans! Countrymen! Lend me your ears!
Everyone go on over to the Official site www.spaceempires5.com (http://www.spaceempires5.com) and contribute your minds. It's time for a change. We have our own home now. You no longer have to be that brother in law sleeping on the couch, eating all the food, and drinking all the soda or beer.

Come! See the many qualities of our new home. Sure!, there are improvements that need to be done. In due time! Come lend your suggestions! Get in early into the Space Empires Universe.

I can not make you leave. But let it be known that the powers that own this place do not have to come down here to evict you. They can simply, and very effectively, bombard you from orbit! You will have no way to fight them!

Come home to your new place. We welcome you all with open arms.



Burn, Heretic!

[Baron Munchausen]

Nah, just leave him to the (corporate) Shadows.

[Ludd]

I enjoy lurking here. Nice place. nice people. Interesting posts. Why move?

[DarkHorse]

C'mon, it took me almost four years to get the paltry post-count I have now; why start over again..?

Besides, the weird beige color scheme here has kinda grown on me.

[Will]

Yep, not moving. I might start to check in on the spaceempires5.com boards if they begin to... well, not suck. But, Shrapnel is the place to be.

And hey, I'm not leeching, I've bought other titles from them, and am thinking over a few more. But not for a while, my plate will be full of grad school, SEV, and Dom3 until the new year. Plus, we're all free advertising. We see all the other titles they have and perhaps buy them, and we bring more people to Shrapnel's site, who may also buy titles. And besides, they actually LIKE us http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

[StarShadow]

I have no plans to leave either, and unless I find a compelling reason, I have no intention of joining that 'other place'.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Thanks, but no. I'm happy here.

[Captain Kwok]

It's a silly suggestion.

[Wade]

Such sarcasm...I know that considering change is difficult but it can open new possibilities.

[Atrocities]

Imperator Fyron said:
Yes, us Vorlons will stick around here. hehehe

I vote to not abandon ship. If you really feel that you want to abandon this place (which isn't really necessary), it'd be better to go to a site running mature forum software like phpbb (SEnet comes to mind, sorry for plug) than the oddity that is Drupal on spaceempires5.com.



I guess when I was overtly negative about the forum software there I was told that I was being un-constructive. I ask you, can you think of anything constructive to say about that antiquited POS forum software they have? No offense, free is a very good price indeed, but come one guys, if that site is too become the flagship site for the SE franchise, at least you could use some decent forum software.

[Atrocities]

"Burn, Heretic!" - AgentZero

R O T F L M A O - That was truly an exceptionally funny thing to say. Thank you for making me laugh histerically. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

And I too am not entirely a complete leech. I too have bought games from here and will eventually by Dom 3. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Just need to save up money. (Why are we all seemingly always broke?)

[Suicide Junkie]

Wade said:
Such sarcasm...I know that considering change is difficult but it can open new possibilities.

Such foolishness. You are new here, and simply don't realize what you are giving up.

I hate to break it to you, but the grass is NOT always greener on the other side.
Is there a single good reason to move over there?

[Tampa_Gamer]

If it ain't broke why fix it? I like it here as well http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[narf poit chez BOOM]

If they want people to use the forum software, they will use good forum software and encourage a friendly and open forum...

...Which is exactly what we have here. So, given that there are literally years of memory here, well, you have an uphill battle.

(Also - No need to be hostile, people. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif )

[Kamog]

I like it here, too. I'm staying. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Combat Wombat]

spaceempires5.com makes me sad, I plan on staying here unless they completely revamp the forums and give admin to a few major SE community members. Also I hate change, remember when they put the side bar into the shrapnel forums? I almost had a heart attack, thats all the change I can take.

[Wade]

I understand. I am mostly trying to get people to visit there and contribute their minds at least every once in a while.
I, too, will visit here and there.

[AgentZero]

Wade said:
I understand. I am mostly trying to get people to visit there and contribute their minds at least every once in a while.
I, too, will visit here and there.



Cease and Repent!

[Fyron]

Erm... that's not at all what the first post and the topic title suggest. It's a tad more drastic than visit every once in a while.

[Wade]

I was in a dramatic mood. I'm still, currently, favoring the official site and intending to visit here too. I hope I'm welcome.hehe.

[AMF]

Yeah, definitely staying here. Much better, any way you cut it.

Nanny nanny boo boo.

[Suicide Junkie]

You will be welcome if you ease off on the abandonment thing.

Loyalty is earned, and the folks here at Shrapnel have definitely earned a lot of it.

[Tim Brooks]

Wow! Thanks for the show of support.


And besides, they actually LIKE us



Yes, we do. If you guys ever went away... well that would be a very sad day here at Shrapnel.

You are and always will be welcome here. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Matryx]

I'll be staying here too, though I do have one post on the new forum somewhere I think.

Sure, there may be a "fear of change" that you claim, but I can't see a single reason to move the majority of my SE-related forum activity over there...

and being "official" doesn't equate to a good reason.

Got a long history with Shrapnel, and well it would be a tragedy to move off.

[Rathar]

Wow. See now thats a reason to stay with a forum/company. They no longer provide direct (support/finance/err/?) to a game and still encourage participation in said game.

Nice show on suppoting fun gaming in general. You folks at Shrapnel will continue to recive my posts and the .0000001 cent per ad click per post revenue it creates. Plus, I will continue to look for your moniker/name on games and hope they are great so I can buy them. (I only buy great games..)

Def purchasing dom 3 through you when it comes out.

Rathar

[dogscoff]

Shrapnel forever!

Will you guys budge over a bit? This sofa is really getting crowded.

EDIT: However, I hereby propose that Shrapnel rename this forum from "Space Empires IV & V" to "The Great Shrapnel Space Empires Sofa party.

[Q]

First I am not American, therefore you initial post does not concern me at all!
Second I feel very well here and the possibilities of this forum with uploading files is great.
Third if you have questions you get helpful answers almost in no time.
Forth this forum has a high level of politeness.
Fifth Shrapnel has proven to be a reliable company.

So why should I leave for somewhere else just because it is new???

[PDF]

Wade said:
Friends! Americans! Countrymen! Lend me your ears!
Everyone go on over to the Official site www.spaceempires5.com (http://www.spaceempires5.com) and contribute your minds. It's time for a change. We have our own home now. You no longer have to be that brother in law sleeping on the couch, eating all the food, and drinking all the soda or beer.

Come! See the many qualities of our new home. Sure!, there are improvements that need to be done. In due time! Come lend your suggestions! Get in early into the Space Empires Universe.

I can not make you leave. But let it be known that the powers that own this place do not have to come down here to evict you. They can simply, and very effectively, bombard you from orbit! You will have no way to fight them!

Come home to your new place. We welcome you all with open arms.



Nice invitation, but I *like* drinking the Shrapnel beer ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Plus the new forum software is really cra.. hmm not that friendly http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[Rathar]

Ok I checked out the forums you suggest and well..

Although I know little these days, that forum style/type is more appropriate for small-scale MUDing of the 100-200 person variety, not for what you can/will be faced with. EZboard for example is far more set up for your needs (or perhaps I too am used to a certain supposed "standard format" but..)

I have always liked the front end possibilities of the boardtype spaceempiresV.com is using but the user interface strikes me as lame.

Too much wasted space informing me of options I will almost never use between each post and that leads to less information between screens.

Tbh, I have never liked the way this forum is put together either ESPECIALLY it's completely utterly totally useless search function. IF I have to use +-etcetc parameters then it sucks. Period. Did I mention that searching for information in this format is weak/lame/almostimpossible>?

I fully desire someone to point out how much of a time wasting fool I have been in regards to this but you try searching for an exact match to mictlan blood strategies (dominions , soon to be 3) or how to use shields in SE and you might see what I mean.

I REALLY like how sanely moderated these forums are. Screw flames, if you light an inappropriate match here the users themselves let you know and then 1/100000 times the mods have to lock things. Spent time on many a board where A post saying "Roses are red" will end up in a ^%$$%# flame blast ending in recrimination and ridiculous flagrant name calling only to be locked by arbitrary mods of one side or another. The "toast" level in these forums is light "tan" and I like it.

Long winded way of saying that we currently have largely crappy software being used ingeniously.

Rathar

[Atrocities]

Wade said:
I understand. I am mostly trying to get people to visit there and contribute their minds at least every once in a while.
I, too, will visit here and there.



Change the forum software to real forum software and the rest will take care of itself.

[Suicide Junkie]

One of the great features of this community is that you don't have to use the search function.

Just ask, and the easier the question, the faster it is answered. No guff, just answers, and quite often you get more than you asked for.

[PDF]

Yep, rather than do a search here you just have to summon SJ or AT to have all your questions (and more) answered. And they come in a matter of seconds http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Azselendor]

Sorry wade, I may pop in the SE5.com site now and then to see what's up, but in all reality...

Shrapnel has Chili and Boomsticks. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[RonGianti]

I've heard (through rumors) that SEV is gone gold.

But I heard it here, not on the "official" site which doesn't even have an up to date listing of any pertinant info on the game (release date, bugs fixed in the demo, etc).

Until that other site has more information (and a better BBS), I'll just stick here...

[Caduceus]

Not only is there a comfy sofa, Shrapnel has a kegerator.

Scoot over Narf and happy birthday.

[Blueentity]

Only a occasional poster, so far less perspective than some of the seasoned players here. I come to this site for game advice, formulas and tips. For years, the advice and information has been good here. Since there has not a been a problem with Shrapnel, why suggest the move? So far there is nothing to suggest that the information will be better elsewhere. When there isn't an apparent reason for moving, it makes one wonder about other motives for suggesting a move.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Thanks.

*Scoot*Scoot*

[Azselendor]

lol, we should put together some mac vs. pc style ads based on this thread.


SG: Hi, I'm Shrapnel Games..
SF: and I'm Strategy First..
SG: (to SF) hey, I heard Space Empires V went gold, cool
SF: Wha?
SG: (confused) some of the fans were hanging out by the kegerator talking about it going gold over at your place.
SF: (more confused) I didn't see a posting about that at my place.
SG: Really? Aren't you publishing it?
SF: Yep, in 2006 but I didn't know it went gold.
SG: that's strange, I thought you would've been the first to tell everyone.
SF: I ------- (frozen in place. then disappears)
SG: (snaps fingers) damnit, he crashed again.




Just poking fun at Strategy first
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[RonGianti]

OMG I have got to say how funny those Mac vs. PC ads are. If you watch the latest one, where the PC is hiding his identity to stay away from spyware, take a good look at the Mac guys face. It looks like he can barely stop from laughing out loud! It must have taken like 20 takes to get that commercial done...

[Ragnarok-X]

Post deleted by Mephisto
Just a double post. But it won't go away. I call this a sticky post. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Ragnarok-X]

Xrati said:
I think I'll stay here for awhile longer! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif




dito

[MasterChiToes]

I'd consider going there, in exchange for the answers to the first three trivia questions. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
Or even better, make se1 available for download there as part of space empires month.

[capnq]

I for one plan to visit both sites regularly, with a frequency depending on relative post volume. Currently I'm visiting Shrapnel daily and Strategy First weekly, on average. The only good reason I can think of to stop visiting here would be having insufficient time to follow multiple forums.

As far as BBS software goes, IMO UBB is the least bad commonly used software among the forums I've visited. The only Web interface I don't dislike was custom-coded by that site's Webmistress, but is reputedly a bear to maintain, and my preference for it seems to be a minority opinion among the regulars there.

[Rollo]

It is unlikely that I'll check any other SE forums or sites on a regular basis apart from this one.

Perhaps a split between SE4 and SE5 would be good, though. SE4 topics seem to get drowned pretty fast. And I don't really think there'll be less discussion once the full version of SE5 is out.

[Renegade 13]

Azselendor said:
lol, we should put together some mac vs. pc style ads based on this thread.

Oh man, I absolutely detest those ads. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/firedevil.gif /threads/images/Graemlins/Envy.gif


I have no plans to cease my activities here. First off, I'm actually somewhat known here, and in turn know many of the people here. I've visited many other forums, usually just a couple times, and I have never found one yet that can match the sheer amount of knowledge, maturity and dedication that the people who come here display on a day to day basis. No one denegrates newcomers to the game or forum, everyone is eager to share knowledge, and even the occasional instance where conversations become heated, people refrain from attacking others.

I don't want to leave, and I will not be leaving until this forum is eventually closed down, or until I die of old age. Hopefully the latter, since that shouldn't be for another 60-70 years!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

Plus, it's taken me almost 3 years to build up the post count I have! Can't have that be all for nought. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Black_Knyght]

Wade said:
Friends! Americans! Countrymen! Lend me your ears!
Everyone go on over to the Official site www.spaceempires5.com (http://www.spaceempires5.com) and contribute your minds. It's time for a change. We have our own home now. You no longer have to be that brother in law sleeping on the couch, eating all the food, and drinking all the soda or beer.

Come! See the many qualities of our new home. Sure!, there are improvements that need to be done. In due time! Come lend your suggestions! Get in early into the Space Empires Universe.

I can not make you leave. But let it be known that the powers that own this place do not have to come down here to evict you. They can simply, and very effectively, bombard you from orbit! You will have no way to fight them!

Come home to your new place. We welcome you all with open arms.




Anybody got a rope? I know where there's a mighty tall tree...

[Puke]

Im not going. I like it here, I like the community, I like Shrapnel, I like the other games they produce, I like seeing advertisements for their new games and every-so-often buying one when it comes out.

And you know what, I dont think I'm going to be evicted. Because this forum drives traffic and I'm not the only one who buys other Shrapnel games. Oh, and we self moderate.

Other forums, wither they are hosted by SFI, Fyron, or Aaron's dog, dont really thrill me. But by all means, go be a factious splitter. Go off and form the SE5 Peoples Front. Or the Peoples Front of SE5. Or whatever you're calling it this week. Splitter.

Speaking of other Shrapnel games, is the new ATF game not being published through Shrap? I saw a preview on Tacticular Cancer, and theres a beta-demo out on the developers site, but I dont see any mention of it here on Shrap.

[TurinTurambar]

Staying here, lurking there.

[David E. Gervais]

Home is where the fans are.. (looks around to see all the familliar faces) Yup, this is Home sweet Home.

Don't try to make me move into the toolshed, I'll hide in the basement first. hmmm, or maybe the Attic, I always liked Attics. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

P.S. Not just 'Fans' but 'Friends' too.

[Atrocities]

Hello David. IT sure is good to see you post. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif It really is man. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif You have been missed my friend.

[Tim Brooks]

Speaking of other Shrapnel games, is the new ATF game not being published through Shrap?



Wow, what a segue! Today's Press Release:

Press Release (http://shrapnelgames.com/News/pr_01.htm)

Thanks for that Puke!

[Tim Brooks]

Hi David.

Nice to see you. Are your duties on SEV now complete?

The reason I ask, we need some art work done. Are you interested?

[Timstone]

Q said:
First I am not American, therefore you initial post does not concern me at all!
Second I feel very well here and the possibilities of this forum with uploading files is great.
Third if you have questions you get helpful answers almost in no time.
Forth this forum has a high level of politeness.
Fifth Shrapnel has proven to be a reliable company.

So why should I leave for somewhere else just because it is new???



You're the only person refering to your not American nationality. I'll join you. Top notch comment!

[Renegade 13]

*Raises Hand*

Another non-American here. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

[Possum]

Q said:
First I am not American



That's OK, man. Nobody's perfect http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

OK, OK, "Ugly American" humor aside, what does nationality have to do with anything? Isn't that a rather irrelevant consideration in the world of internet games?

[Kamog]

*Raises Hand*

Another non-American here. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif


Me too. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif /threads/images/Graemlins/Flag_Canada.gif

[Black_Knyght]

/threads/images/Graemlins/Flag_USA.gif Very American here, and very <font color="red">PR</font><font color="white">O</font><font color="blue">UD</font> of it /threads/images/Graemlins/Flag_USA.gif


(We apologize for this temporary thread hijacking, and now return you to your regularly posted thread.....)

[narf poit chez BOOM]

I'm an American. In fact, I am a North American. My country is as North American a country as you can get.

I'm a North North American. You silly yanks are North South Americans.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[Suicide Junkie]

I thought they were the south north americans...

[Matryx]

Isn't north-north-american "Borderline Canadian"?

Also, another non-american here http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Suicide Junkie]

Just beyond the north north americans are the Russians.

[David E. Gervais]

Hi Tim,

I updated my 'internal use' e-mail address. (in my profile) if you like, send me more info on this artwork you need.

Have a great day, Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Matryx said:
Isn't north-north-american "Borderline Canadian"?

Also, another non-american here http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif


No, it's 'Over-the-borderline Canadian'.

[Ludd]

I'm English, with Canadian citizenship, married to an American.

I'm proud to be British, English, UK-ish, canadian and semi-American.

And my head hurts.

[Matryx]

Ludd: call yourself Terran and be done with it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Intimidator]

Possum said:

Q said:
First I am not American



That's OK, man. Nobody's perfect http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

OK, OK, "Ugly American" humor aside, what does nationality have to do with anything? Isn't that a rather irrelevant consideration in the world of internet games?




AGREE WITH YOU...............BTW. I'm not an American http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Q]

Intimidator said:

Possum said:

Q said:
First I am not American



That's OK, man. Nobody's perfect http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

OK, OK, "Ugly American" humor aside, what does nationality have to do with anything? Isn't that a rather irrelevant consideration in the world of internet games?




AGREE WITH YOU...............BTW. I'm not an American http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif



So do I!

That's why I said it because the initial post was adressed to Americans and countrymen, which is in this context not appropriate IMO. You could get the impression (although I am sure that this was not the intention) that the new forum site invitation was restricted to American.

[Phoenix-D]

Q: It was a rif on the "friends, Romans, countrymen" speech you know..

[Ludd]

Phoenix-D said:
Q: It was a rif on the "friends, Romans, countrymen" speech you know..


Yes, and nothing for us non-Americans to be annoyed about.

Suggesting leaving here on the other hand......

[Wade]

Ok. I'll explain. I considered the phrase when I used it. My view is that the words "Friends and countrymen" can apply to those who are not "Americans".

Mainly the title and creative speech was to grab attention(It sure did.Hehe.) to invite others to visit spaceempires5.com. It might have seemed to suggest permanently leaving Shrapnel but that was not what I meant. I agree that this is a good community and I visit here and other sites.

Plus, some other sites are still trying to become more presentable.

[Cipher7071]

I may pop over and have a look around. But that certainly doesn't mean I would abandon this site.

[Strategia_In_Ultima]

Wade said:
It might have seemed to suggest permanently leaving Shrapnel but that was not what I meant.



Somehow, "OK! Let's Shut This Place Down!" has a rather..... permanent..... feel to it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/firedevil.gif

[Azselendor]

I have to agree, opening a speech with "Shutting this place down..." doesn't come off as the best pitch for getting us to change.

[Devnullicus]

ok, enough of this PC stuff. The site will be restricted to Romans only. All writing will be in Latin. (At least, as veteran SE players, we're all used to the Roman numerals! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif )

[Suicide Junkie]

How many M's do I have to write for a Sphereworld's Population again?

[Rasorow]

Gotta say I have no intention of going to the new site at this time. All the knowledge is here and quite honestly the community is here.

Even if I do little more then occasionally lurk anymore.

Rasorow